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Parent

London, KY

#1 Jun 24, 2013
I have just learned that my childs teacher allowed his class to watch movies while they were suppose to be learning and doing work in school. I think this is terrible. We pay these teachers thousands of dollars per year and this is what we get for our money. Something is wrong!!
Monday

Hazard, KY

#2 Jun 24, 2013
Parent wrote:
I have just learned that my childs teacher allowed his class to watch movies while they were suppose to be learning and doing work in school. I think this is terrible. We pay these teachers thousands of dollars per year and this is what we get for our money. Something is wrong!!
What if the movie is tied into what the teacher is teaching? I know that some teachers in science show movies that are science in nature. Is there something wrong with that?
Bad dog

Somerset, KY

#3 Jun 24, 2013
So an English teacher shouldn't show a movie that goes with the topic they are covering.

Some kids learn by different ways.
Tuesday

London, KY

#4 Jun 24, 2013
There is nothing wrong with showing a movie about the topic you are covering class. But if you show the students cartoons just so you don't have to teach, that is very wrong, and this has happened many times at one of the high schools.
aunt bea

Hazard, KY

#5 Jun 25, 2013
Movies have always been a very important part of a child education. Many children are visual learners and can catch onto a concept the instructor is trying to get across by seeing it played out in a movie. Take for examples, in literature class, "Wuthering Heights" and "Romeo and Juliet". To read the books are great, but too lengthy to get in one semester (although it has been done, it leaves little time for other great stories). If a child has a learning disability, movies are awesome as a learning tool. I personally do not see anything wrong with an instructor using a movie as a reward for good behavior or good grades.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#7 Jun 25, 2013
If some parents knew as much as the teachers, then can we assume they also have teaching degrees?

Showing film goes all the way back to the 1960's. Teachers did it then and they do it now and they don't just show a film so the students can throw popcorn either. It isn't unlikely for a kid to come home from school and when ask "what did you do at school today", they reply "watched a movie". I would probably want to question the kid further by saying "what was it about the movie that related to what you were learning"? You then might get a correct answer. If you don't, then I'd want to possibly question the attention span of the student and how interested they really are in learning?
Monday

London, KY

#8 Jun 25, 2013
Tuesday wrote:
There is nothing wrong with showing a movie about the topic you are covering class. But if you show the students cartoons just so you don't have to teach, that is very wrong, and this has happened many times at one of the high schools.
Which high school you talking about, Tuesday?
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#9 Jun 25, 2013
Teachers don't trade derivatives, speculate in real estate, engage in subprime lending or make huge demands on the employer.

Probably due to economic conditions, teachers are more and more degraded these days with every whim. However, teachers had nothing to do with economic conditions.

Teachers shell out thousands of dollars for classroom supplies and tolerate the barage of administrative mandates established by politicians.

Instead of making money, teachers chose to make a difference.
smithmrsmith

Glenpool, OK

#10 Jun 25, 2013
School has been out locally for several weeks. Why would you just now be bringing up this subject? You sound like one of these busy bodies who look for every excuse to start some kind of trouble.
bubbles

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Jun 25, 2013
Parent wrote:
I have just learned that my childs teacher allowed his class to watch movies while they were suppose to be learning and doing work in school. I think this is terrible. We pay these teachers thousands of dollars per year and this is what we get for our money. Something is wrong!!
Seriously
Well

Williamsburg, KY

#12 Jun 25, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
Teachers don't trade derivatives, speculate in real estate, engage in subprime lending or make huge demands on the employer.
Probably due to economic conditions, teachers are more and more degraded these days with every whim. However, teachers had nothing to do with economic conditions.
Teachers shell out thousands of dollars for classroom supplies and tolerate the barage of administrative mandates established by politicians.
Instead of making money, teachers chose to make a difference.
Not exactly, but their proxy, their state's teacher retirement system is heavily invested in all those endeavors. These investments significantly influence economic conditions, even globally. Teachers elect members of their retirement system board, so teachers are ultimately responsible for the economic influence these boards wield.

Thousands of dollars? Maybe over a 30+ year career.

Tolerate political mandates? Public school teachers work for the government, duh.

Making money? Haha, nah, too easy.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#13 Jun 25, 2013
Well wrote:
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Not exactly, but their proxy, their state's teacher retirement system is heavily invested in all those endeavors. These investments significantly influence economic conditions, even globally. Teachers elect members of their retirement system board, so teachers are ultimately responsible for the economic influence these boards wield.
Thousands of dollars? Maybe over a 30+ year career.
Tolerate political mandates? Public school teachers work for the government, duh.
Making money? Haha, nah, too easy.
You're again on my turf, genius. My kids are teachers and I know more teachers than you probably have acquired friends in a lifetime.

Teacher's pensions invested? Last I checked, teachers are teachers...not investment counselors, brokers or financial advisors. How 'bout in your world?

Teachers may be forced to "elect" a board member, but bank on it, they have no clue about them. They just expect others will do the job they are trained to do while they, as teachers, teach.(btw, that investment trick didn't work when Romney brought it up to Obama in the campaign no more than your attempting now to duplicate).

No, teachers don't work for the government. They work...for the children they teach. The govt. just happens to handle the taxpayer's money.

Here's one thing I will take personal responsbility for though and that is, ever allowing my kids to become teachers that have to put up with bullshit artists like yourself. I somehow suspect you belong in Russia about right now alongside that cute little feller that's running from extradition. Yep, that's what I think.

Another question comes to mind...I wonder how it is you learned to read?
justme

London, KY

#15 Jun 26, 2013
Parent wrote:
I have just learned that my childs teacher allowed his class to watch movies while they were suppose to be learning and doing work in school. I think this is terrible. We pay these teachers thousands of dollars per year and this is what we get for our money. Something is wrong!!
Are you kidding? You never watched a movie when you was in school? Maybe it went with the subject they were learning, did you ever think of that?
And some teachers even believe in something called REWARDING! Just because they aren't kids anymore doesn't mean they don't deserve a reward every now and then...when I was in highschool, we had a teacher who would let us watch a movie if everyone passed their final, or little things like that. And it made a big difference in our classes scores. That doesn't mean its okay to allow them to watch movies all the time, but every once in awhile doesn't hurt you, or them.
If you have such a problem with it, homeschool your kid. otherwise, shut up. teachers have a hard enough job without judgmental and ignorant people such as yourself making it even harder.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#17 Jun 27, 2013
justme wrote:
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Are you kidding? You never watched a movie when you was in school? Maybe it went with the subject they were learning, did you ever think of that?
And some teachers even believe in something called REWARDING! Just because they aren't kids anymore doesn't mean they don't deserve a reward every now and then...when I was in highschool, we had a teacher who would let us watch a movie if everyone passed their final, or little things like that. And it made a big difference in our classes scores. That doesn't mean its okay to allow them to watch movies all the time, but every once in awhile doesn't hurt you, or them.
If you have such a problem with it, homeschool your kid. otherwise, shut up. teachers have a hard enough job without judgmental and ignorant people such as yourself making it even harder.
That's a great post and so true. What's really hallarious sometimes is, all these that are bashing our Teachers in this country....were at some point and time, taught themselves.

I know ALOT of teachers and Professors and every single one of them that I know LOVE what they do and are ALL about the children they teach. They go above and beyond and too often have to be parental guidance for many that have NO home life. When kids go to college to become teachers, the absolute farthest thing from their mind is "a government" paycheck. What they do is, go to college to learn to do what they want to do in life and simply earn a living like everyone else. And further, if some of these "not in the know" people ever saw a teacher's paystub, they'd see how much comes out of it before they ever cash it. If you considered their "net" paycheck vs "gross", they'd probably fit into the poverty category!
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#18 Jun 27, 2013
check it out wrote:
education is becoming a big money racket.
join clubs, choirs, bands, etc.
just to get your money.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/london-ky/TO7...
..so, let me get this straight. You take us from one bull crap thread to another one?

Clubs, choirs and bands a money racket? Get closer ole' wise one. Those monies are used FOR THE KIDS and doesn't have a darn thing to do with your anti government blues. And as a matter of fact, teachers pay for half these kids supplies when they are talented and can't afford certain things.

I guess you missed the Study presented to Oxford University in that these type of things ENHANCE both social and academic skills...a PROVEN fact. I guess you also missed where a Downs Syndrome child was given a part in a school play that increased his confidence level beyond measure and so sayeth the parents of the child when they wrote "We've never seen him so excited, happy and this confident in his entire life...thank you". I'd imagine you've also missed the point that when you stifle a child from what they love, you stifle their education and...life.

Now, for you, bear in mind. If you move your leg, it's a step up from laying on the couch.
Check Hander Outer

Williamsburg, KY

#19 Jun 27, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>When kids go to college to become teachers, the absolute farthest thing from their mind is "a government" paycheck.
Not in eastern Kentucky. The paycheck, the insurance and the early/defined benefit retirement are what these future teachers are focused on even as high school juniors. The only students who go into public education already have the contacts and connections to get a job teaching. Many are children of board employees and very often sons and daughters who will "inherit" their parent's positions, sometimes even over three generations.

If you want to know just how poverty stricken these teachers are, just look out across the school parking lot and notice what everyone is driving.
Disappointment

Sheridan, AR

#20 Jun 27, 2013
if there watching movies its been approved principles approve learning plans
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#21 Jun 27, 2013
Check Hander Outer wrote:
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Not in eastern Kentucky. The paycheck, the insurance and the early/defined benefit retirement are what these future teachers are focused on even as high school juniors. The only students who go into public education already have the contacts and connections to get a job teaching. Many are children of board employees and very often sons and daughters who will "inherit" their parent's positions, sometimes even over three generations.
If you want to know just how poverty stricken these teachers are, just look out across the school parking lot and notice what everyone is driving.
The cost of living in that town isn't a drop in the bucket compared to larger cities and I assure you, they don't earn as much as teachers in larger cities. It also depends upon their degrees how much they earn. But if you're really looking for why they drive a nice car, it's called "money management". I've seen people earning $100,000 yr. that can't pay their electric bill while someone earning $30,000 manage. Don't judge a book by it's cover. And...I do know teachers in Ky. as well.

I can also share with you that as a Junior in High School, my kids wouldn't have known the definition of a pension, let alone how it's funded, who manages it or where it comes from.

I'm not sure about Eastern Ky., but what I can tell you is, I watched my own children graduate college, research various schools, then put applications in with NO contacts. Like any other job, a teacher, when applying for a job, must show references and those references can actually be their own Professors in college for that matter.

Trust me when I tell you, teachers don't go into teaching for money. If they did, I'd have to check their heads. They go into it because they are a special breed...they care. But what I can say, given today's society, the lack of parental guidance and discipline, after a teacher gets jerked around a few years, spit in the face of, called names and having nonunderstanding parents in their faces, they are ready to move on and why wouldn't they be. They aren't machines. If some parents knew so much about teaching, then....they'd be teaching. One of their kids could lay a gun to another kid's head and they'd find a dozen excuses why it was someone else's fault. Some simply have NO clue what a teacher can go through in the course of a day's work. So, please don't begrudge them driving a nice car like others are permitted to do. They desserve it. Truth is, by the time they get through spending their paychecks on students, I'm surprised they have enough left to make a car payment with.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#22 Jun 27, 2013
Disappointment wrote:
if there watching movies its been approved principles approve learning plans
..as they should. But can we assume some think the Principals or Superintendants aren't educated either...in education?
Check Hander Outer

Williamsburg, KY

#23 Jun 28, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
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The cost of living in that town isn't a drop in the bucket compared to larger cities and I assure you, they don't earn as much as teachers in larger cities. It also depends upon their degrees how much they earn. But if you're really looking for why they drive a nice car, it's called "money management". I've seen people earning $100,000 yr. that can't pay their electric bill while someone earning $30,000 manage. Don't judge a book by it's cover. And...I do know teachers in Ky. as well.
I can also share with you that as a Junior in High School, my kids wouldn't have known the definition of a pension, let alone how it's funded, who manages it or where it comes from.
I'm not sure about Eastern Ky., but what I can tell you is, I watched my own children graduate college, research various schools, then put applications in with NO contacts. Like any other job, a teacher, when applying for a job, must show references and those references can actually be their own Professors in college for that matter.
Trust me when I tell you, teachers don't go into teaching for money. If they did, I'd have to check their heads. They go into it because they are a special breed...they care. But what I can say, given today's society, the lack of parental guidance and discipline, after a teacher gets jerked around a few years, spit in the face of, called names and having nonunderstanding parents in their faces, they are ready to move on and why wouldn't they be. They aren't machines. If some parents knew so much about teaching, then....they'd be teaching. One of their kids could lay a gun to another kid's head and they'd find a dozen excuses why it was someone else's fault. Some simply have NO clue what a teacher can go through in the course of a day's work. So, please don't begrudge them driving a nice car like others are permitted to do. They desserve it. Truth is, by the time they get through spending their paychecks on students, I'm surprised they have enough left to make a car payment with.
Wow, you really are out of touch with reality.

The last time I checked we all pay about the same for our gas and cars. Not exactly a drop in the bucket.

You do realize Kentucky high school students now declare their intention and are recruited to become teachers. Juniors and seniors take college credit classes covering matters like pensions, retirement, insurance and school law.

The reality is it's who you are and who you know.

Hey, wanna watch me print our payroll checks?

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