"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).Read more
#78020 Jan 29, 2013
We are, or should be, familiar with the phrase, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the States wherein they reside." This can be referred to as the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, but what does "subject to the jurisdiction" mean? Jurisdiction can take on different meanings that can have nothing to do with physical boundaries alone--and if the framers meant geographical boundaries they would have simply used the term "limits" rather than "jurisdiction" since that was the custom at the time when distinguishing between physical boundaries and reach of law.
Fortunately, we have the highest possible authority on record to answer this question of how the term "jurisdiction" was to be interpreted and applied, the author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob M. Howard (MI) to tell us exactly what it means and its intended scope as he introduced it to the United States Senate in 1866:
Mr. HOWARD: I now move to take up House joint resolution No. 127.
The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consideration of the joint resolution (H.R. No. 127) proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.
It is clear the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment had no intention of freely giving away American citizenship to just anyone simply because they may have been born on American soil, something our courts have wrongfully assumed. But what exactly did "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" mean to the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment? Again, we are fortunate to have on record the highest authority to tell us, Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the Thirteenth Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase:
[T]he provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.
Obama was born an ipso facto citizen of his father's nation, which makes him an alien and not eligible for the Presidency.
#78021 Jan 29, 2013
1. You don't believe everything you hear ...
2. How many millions did Obama deport???
3. Why 71% Latinos voted for Obama???
4. Why Obama advertising how to get food stamps in U.S. on Mexican day time soap operas last year?
5. Why are you so NAIVE???
#78022 Jan 29, 2013
Then why is President Obama still President you dumbass?
#78023 Jan 29, 2013
No, because the Hebrews are God's chosen people.
The intifada started in Genesis 16:12
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
ISHMAEL IS THE FOUNDER OF Jebusites, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines, Hivites, Hittites, Midianites, Amalekites, Egyptians, Chaldeans, Babylonians, Arabs, Medes and Persians.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Moses of Israel won and Pharaoh of Egypt lost.
David of Israel won and Goliath of Philistines lost.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
#78024 Jan 29, 2013
Why are you so Stupid??
Oh yeah, Faux News made you that way.
#78025 Jan 29, 2013
How did many pole centers have, lets say 158% of its people voting for Obama when they only have a max of 100% and not everyone cast a vote for him? This is just one pole center. Times that times multi poll centers.
How did people such as the ACORN or whatever corrupted org. they are hiding behind able to go out and buy vagrant's votes off the street by giving a bottle of liquor to them, or using dead people IDs, or cartoon characters or pets names?
Since you say Bush's innauguration was unconstitutional, then Obama's was an outright injustice to the Constitution.Not only that, the cost of one (1) day for a traitor to party, while people in New York and New Jersey are still without heat, was calculated nearly 1/2 billion dollars of tax payer's money. If you count the 300 million for the festivities and the hundreds of millions for security and the drones he had hovering about to protect him and his big bone, football player looking wife.
28 guards and drones---what is the man scared of? Yet he supposebly is unable to trust law biding citizens with simple hunting rifles.
Oh, I better not say anymore, don't want to be named as a racist, since this is what Obama had been groomed for years.
Soros knew exactly what to do. He saw the stupidity of the American government and how blacks were getting special rights, not equal rights as they should but special rights. Soros thought, this is how I can take down America and he was right. We will play the race card everytime an American questions Obama's corruption.
Look at the wannabe Obamas and the Obama's sheep. Don't you dare criticize him because he is an evil and corrupted leader, in which he is or you will be a racist.
.....since he is biracial, is it okay, to criticize half of him? What a joke has been played on the America.
The blinded will see soon and woe is to them, they will know not what has hit them and feel the punch more powerful than the ones who see what is coming.
#78026 Jan 29, 2013
It’s Official: Obama “Born in the U.S.A.”
Of all the nutty rumors, baseless conspiracy theories and sheer disinformation that we’ve dealt with at FactCheck.org during campaign 2008, perhaps the goofiest is the claim that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” and therefore not eligible to be president under the constitution.
This claim was first advanced by diehard Hillary Clinton supporters as her campaign for the party’s nomination faded, and has enjoyed a revival among John McCain’s partisans as he fell substantially behind Obama in public opinion polls. There has never been anything but rumor and speculation to support such a claim, and zero hard evidence. When Obama produced a “certificate of live birth” from the state of Hawai, doubters simply claimed it was forged and continued to huff and puff. Lawsuits were filed (and dismissed). Blogs blogged on. Our own “Born in the U.S.A” article, showing close-up photos of the document complete with official signature and raised seal, got more page views than any other article this week, even though we posted it back in August. It is a document that would satisfy the State Department’s requirements for proof of citizenship for purposes of getting a passport. But not, of course, those who wish to believe otherwise, whatever the evidence.
Now, there is even less reason to doubt that Obama was born when and where he has always said. We posted this update to our Born in the U.S.A article:
Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.... The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008:“This has gotten ridiculous,” state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday.“There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy.”... Will this be enough to quiet the doubters?“I hope so,” Fukino said.“We need to get some work done.”
We say,“amen” to that. You can take it from Hawaii’s officials: Obama was born in the U.S.A. http://factcheck.org/2008/11/its-official-oba...
#78027 Jan 29, 2013
Still dodging the questions.. A fine example of a true ignorant liberal you are.
#78028 Jan 29, 2013
That was what you said 4 years ago Whiner.
You got your ass kicked, get over it.
#78029 Jan 29, 2013
Now, now, now.
Lets be nice.
You mean, you are not drinking up what Obama said about illegal immigrants.
Obama lies "Since, I became president, illegal immigrants crossings is down 80% and deportations is up drastically."
Are you saying, you don't believe his lies?
How dare you to even think that about the "Annointed One".
#78030 Jan 29, 2013
Very simple, we have dumb asses like you in congress!
#78031 Jan 29, 2013
Acorn is out of business because they were set up by Rightwing Republican Fascist.
Everything you believe to be true is FALSE.
Elections have been stolen in America.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
Case No. 01-CIV-120-GOLD / Katherine Harris purged voting rolls illegally
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
Case No. 01-CIV-120-GOLD / Katherine Harris purged voting rolls illegally
Still No Winner in Florida's 13th District
http://tinyurl.com/ygewzsb December 6, 2006
News of aspiring 2008 presidential candidates may have pushed the just-concluded midterm elections off the front pages, but one 2006 story remains without an end -- the ongoing legal fight over the results in Florida's 13th Congressional District.
At issue is the high rate of "undervoting" in the vote tally, as some 18,000 ballots recorded votes for other offices in Sarasota County but not for the congressional race between auto dealer Vern Buchanan (R) and banker Christine Jennings (D). That undervote rate was six times higher than in the other counties of the district.
Florida election authorities certified Buchanan's 369-vote victory on Nov. 20, but Jennings has sued the state and the manufacturer of the touch-screen voting machines used in the county in hopes of getting to the bottom of the matter.
"This is not about Republicans and this is not about Democrats," Jennings said when announcing the lawsuit. "It's about fixing a broken voting system."
#78032 Jan 29, 2013
Just because all Republicans are lieing pos, don't assume everybody else lies like you.
#78033 Jan 29, 2013
No little one who hides in his mommy's basement and no telling what goes on down there.
This is going on AGAIN at the 2nd coming of the "Annointed One".
From the deepest pits of a Community Organizer to the reincarnation of "Hitler".
History is repeating itself.
May GOD have mercy on us and deliverer us from this disaster.
#78034 Jan 29, 2013
Just on the republican side of the aisle you stupid pos.
#78035 Jan 29, 2013
Official, Obama looked at a baby (full term baby) which was still alive after a botched abortion and said: "just toss it into the trash can".
....and his stupid followers said AMEN to that.
#78036 Jan 29, 2013
Not assuming anything. Obama lies and people die.
Oh, lieing is lying.
Refer to "hooked on phonics for liberals" this should be of help to you.
#78037 Jan 29, 2013
My only comment to you is:
Wake up you ignorant liberal, people are dying under this thug.
#78039 Jan 29, 2013
First off Obama and Reid are not liberals, just like the Bush's and Reagan were not conservatives.
Could somebody explain again what "fiscal conservative" means
HEADLINES THAT YOU NEVER READ IN THE REPUBLICAN/FOREIGN-OWNED U.S. MEDIA:/ http://tinyurl.com/5mq65x
President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $100 Billion in one year!
President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $200 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $300 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $400 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $500 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion AGAIN! Almost hits $600 Billion!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a THIRD time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FOURTH time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FIFTH time!
"Our National Debt is up Three Trillion Dollars under George W. Bush!" / http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
#78040 Jan 29, 2013
Congress: Yes, Obama Was Born in Hawaii ( 378 - 0 )
July 28, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/lhngae
Yesterday, an innocuous-sounding resolution in honor of the 50th anniversary of Hawaiian statehood came up for vote on the House floor.
The resolution from Hawaii Democrat Neil Abercrombie, which Greg Sargent first reported, included this line: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii…"
Why is that notable? Because it's just the sort of claim that angers the birthers – the movement of folks who believe, against overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that President Obama was not really born in Hawaii, and is thus not a U.S. citizen.
Add your comments below
|Bible study rules for public schools proposed (Feb '10)||25 min||john cima||135,105|
|Dear Lib Racists @Starbucks||49 min||Uber-Bro of the U...||6|
|Fam Values: Protest Against Vulgarity/Profanity... (Apr '13)||52 min||Uber-Bro of the U...||37|
|corbin goodwill (Oct '11)||1 hr||nana||42|
|fake christians||5 hr||Jay Bee||11|
|Keavy Music Thread (May '14)||Feb '15||Musikologist||4|
|Who do you support for U.S. House in Kentucky (... (Oct '10)||Jan '15||Bethany Ky||701|
Find what you want!
Search Keavy Forum Now
Copyright © 2015 Topix LLC