Galilean Children's Home near Corbin, Ky
dad was from the hood

Brownsville, TN

#23 Feb 9, 2009
they liked girls under the age of menstrual onset...less likely they'd get pregnant. the old chicken fart didnt become real famous until after he was run out of town. isnt it amazing what money and fame can get u. he even had a gf living with him and his wife. it was told his original eatery was a house of ill-repute.

any way it was allowed to go on because of such a poor community and the old fart helped clothe and feed them all during the winter months. dont make it right but that is the story i was told. then another man wanted in on the action and the rev and the old fart didnt want to share. thats when it all hit the fan.
i do not know that this is the gospel but it is what i have always been told
fyi

Gray, KY

#24 Feb 10, 2009
http://www.galileanhome.org/ .. this home in Liberty, Ky is named after the old Corbin home...
Whitley Co Citizen 01

Dyer, TN

#25 Feb 10, 2009
fyi wrote:
http://www.galileanhome.org/.. this home in Liberty, Ky is named after the old Corbin home...
Just named after it. No other association.
Pearl

Saint Augustine, FL

#26 Feb 10, 2009
Thanks for all the good responses that this topic has gotten. Yes, the present day Galilean Childrens Home is located in Liberty, Ky and like a couple people have already pointed out, the only similarity is in the name.

I believe, also, that he got by with a lot of it because it was a poor community and back during that time, there was no oversight. Several churches offered to fund the home, but Vogel always refused. Even in his own book, he states that he did not want people sticking their nose in his business and telling him what to do. When his daughter release her first book, she was supposedly threatened by some people because of it. Most community leader and politicians evidently wanted it swept under the rug.

The fact that after the first trial (which resulted in a mistrial) he was never tried on other charges definetly gives one the impression that others were involved and they wanted the whole thing dropped. According to his daughters book, he was told to leave the state and never come back.

Since: Nov 08

Ripley, TN

#27 Feb 10, 2009
My mother knew about this home too. She passed away 3 years ago. She said if the person was named in the daughter's book, then the person did not do anything bad, such as Colonel Sanders. He truly was there to help and gave a lot of money. The doctor's name was NOT listed and I was so upset when Mom told me the doctor who delivered me was the doctor. Dr. Ohler.. can't remember his first name unfortunately.
I was fascinated with this story when I first read the daughter's book and read his book second. Mom remembered the girls choir coming to her elementary school to perform. She mentioned so many times the "girl with the beautiful eyes". She was almost sure that it was Gladys Vogel. And they were also on the cover of a Life Magazine, that I've tried and tried to find.
She used to drive me by the home and I'm so glad that it is being used for good now. And yes, I'm one that totally believes what she wrote.
Whitley Co Citizen 01

Dyer, TN

#28 Feb 10, 2009
My Grandparents told me many times that they witnessed Colonel Sanders going into a building with an underage girl and spending the night. That home was a nightmare for young girls back then.
curious

Richmond, KY

#29 Feb 10, 2009
History Buff wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, it's off Bee Creek road to the right. You turn at the sign that says Grove Marina. It's down that road just a short way. You turn to the left where the sign says "singing hills road'. The place is now Laurel Lake Baptist Camp.They have lots of summer camps for kids and retreats and meetings through the year for all ages. It's run by a very nice man and his family. They would love for you to visit them. The area is beautiful and most of the original buildings are there.
so some of the building that is being used by the church for camp and events, is the same building that was used for the childrens home???
wow

United States

#30 Feb 10, 2009
curious wrote:
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so some of the building that is being used by the church for camp and events, is the same building that was used for the childrens home???
Kinda of eery, odd, and suspicous w/the history to it. BUT I'am NOT insinuating that the church does that just because the children's home did. Just a creepy feeling, knowing the history of it now. Looks like they would have torn it down since it is associated w/negative feelings and happenings. At least it can be a true HAPPY place now. It's amazing at the things that went on in our communities. Back then stuff like that was always hush hush and they always said it was the women's fault. Good thing times have changed for the most part, and people have better understanding and we can help protect our children better.
History Buff

United States

#32 Feb 10, 2009
curious wrote:
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so some of the building that is being used by the church for camp and events, is the same building that was used for the childrens home???
Yes, they have been kept up pretty well. I've been to reunions in the original dining hall and it's a very pretty building. They use some of the other cottages for camping etc.
Whitley Co Citizen 01

Dyer, TN

#33 Feb 11, 2009
curious wrote:
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so some of the building that is being used by the church for camp and events, is the same building that was used for the childrens home???
Honestly most of the original buildings still are standing. Even the archway is there at the entrance. The bell tower is still where it was in the early 1900's.
Cody Walters

Morehead, KY

#34 Feb 16, 2009
i am a direct descendant of John Vogel. my aunt has a complete family history. also there is the book, "it happened in the hills of kentucky" and also the one his daughter wrote. the book his daughter wrote tells the true story about what went on there. she has done extensive research on him and the orphanage both. she also did our family tree and thats how i know i am related to him. any way, he had "special girls" that wore wedding rings and sold some others to colonel sanders for "favors" the museum at the original KFC is an exact replica of the mana house kithchen. the swimming pool is built from the remains of his house. the magnolia house next to the pool was where his special girls stayed. all of orphaned children were adopted by john and his wife and were not allowed to be adopted outside his family. he used the boys for labour. his wife caught him giving an abortion on the kithchen table to one of his girls with a kitchen knife.(this was in the 30's or 40's) by the way. it was converted into a summer camp in the early fifties. for more info contact me at [email protected], i can get more from my aunt.
Pearl

Saint Augustine, FL

#35 Feb 17, 2009
I have read both of his daughter's books (as well as the one he wrote) and she reveals much of this information. She doesn't however say that Harlan Sanders was guilty of anything with the girls although she mentions him several times. I guess she had to watch what she put in her book to avoid any possible lawsuits. According to his daughter, the school was not shutdown until around 1959. Was your aunt a young girl at the time the home was ran by Vogel? As far as I can determine, Vogel never served any time in prison for his offenses. Does your aunt know that for sure?

Thanks for your information!
Whitley Co Citizen 01

Dyer, TN

#36 Feb 17, 2009
Cody Walters wrote:
i am a direct descendant of John Vogel. my aunt has a complete family history. also there is the book, "it happened in the hills of kentucky" and also the one his daughter wrote. the book his daughter wrote tells the true story about what went on there. she has done extensive research on him and the orphanage both. she also did our family tree and thats how i know i am related to him. any way, he had "special girls" that wore wedding rings and sold some others to colonel sanders for "favors" the museum at the original KFC is an exact replica of the mana house kithchen. the swimming pool is built from the remains of his house. the magnolia house next to the pool was where his special girls stayed. all of orphaned children were adopted by john and his wife and were not allowed to be adopted outside his family. he used the boys for labour. his wife caught him giving an abortion on the kithchen table to one of his girls with a kitchen knife.(this was in the 30's or 40's) by the way. it was converted into a summer camp in the early fifties. for more info contact me at [email protected], i can get more from my aunt.
Let's see if you knew of this. When he gave the attempted abortion the young girl was literally dying and a women put her in a car to take her to the hospital. John Vogel chased them with his own car trying to stop them so the woman couldn't get the little girl the help she needed. This was told to me by my Grandparents and also an elderly neighbor of theirs many times when I was a teen. Lots happened in those hills that will never be known.
Need to know

Mayfield, KY

#37 Feb 17, 2009
Pearl wrote:
That is interesting about your mother. Did any of the family ever talk about what it was like there? I understand that in general the kids were not always treated that well. I remember visiting there when I was a kid, but not sure if I can remember how to get back. Is the location on Bee Creek Rd??
I am sorry that your mother passed away.
Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. My mother has two siblings that are still living that may have some interesting stories for you. You can e-mail me for futher info. [email protected]
Pearl

Saint Augustine, FL

#38 Feb 17, 2009
Whitley Co Citizen 01 wrote:
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Let's see if you knew of this. When he gave the attempted abortion the young girl was literally dying and a women put her in a car to take her to the hospital. John Vogel chased them with his own car trying to stop them so the woman couldn't get the little girl the help she needed. This was told to me by my Grandparents and also an elderly neighbor of theirs many times when I was a teen. Lots happened in those hills that will never be known.
Yes that is in his daughter's book. The woman who put her in the car was Vogel's wife. He then chased her to the doctor's office. That doctor reported it to the authorities and it was the beginning of Vogel's decline. Charges were brought up against him, but SOMEHOW the trial was declared a mistrial. As the story broke and other girls came forward, he still had some of them brainwashed enough that they were afraid to testify.

I agree there was probably a lot more that went on that what will ever be told. His daughter started noticing things when she was a teen, but I am sure when she was younger and not as aware, he was already having his way with some of the girls.

As the years went on, he forced the boys to go away to school or join the army after they turned 16. He was very jealous if he detected a possible attraction between some of the teenagers.

Are there ever any reunions for the people who grew up there? Since the school did not close until 1959, I am sure most of them are alive. Maybe it is something they just want to forget.
Sounds Interesting

Manchester, KY

#39 Feb 17, 2009
This sounds very interesting. What are the names of the books and where can I purchase them at? I would love to read them.
Whitley Co Citizen 01

Dyer, TN

#40 Feb 18, 2009
Pearl wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes that is in his daughter's book. The woman who put her in the car was Vogel's wife. He then chased her to the doctor's office. That doctor reported it to the authorities and it was the beginning of Vogel's decline. Charges were brought up against him, but SOMEHOW the trial was declared a mistrial. As the story broke and other girls came forward, he still had some of them brainwashed enough that they were afraid to testify.
I agree there was probably a lot more that went on that what will ever be told. His daughter started noticing things when she was a teen, but I am sure when she was younger and not as aware, he was already having his way with some of the girls.
As the years went on, he forced the boys to go away to school or join the army after they turned 16. He was very jealous if he detected a possible attraction between some of the teenagers.
Are there ever any reunions for the people who grew up there? Since the school did not close until 1959, I am sure most of them are alive. Maybe it is something they just want to forget.
The only reunion that has been held there was for people who grew up in the Grove area. That was the communities name many years ago. I went to several of them but most of the elderly people who attended them have passed on now. Not been a Grove reunion in about 8 years or so. And I never knew of a reunion there for any of the orphans...which they would all be over 60 years old now.
book lover

United States

#41 Feb 20, 2009
I got both books today! I can't wait to dive into them. I am also gonna take a trip down to the site. I love history especially local history! I'd like to know what other interesting stories have been shared thru the private emails. Anyone willing to share?
Pearl

Saint Augustine, FL

#42 Feb 20, 2009
I haven't done any private emails. Would love to hear your ideas though when you finish reading the books.
Sounds Interesting

Manchester, KY

#43 Feb 20, 2009
Can anyone tell me what the names of the books are and where I can buy them? Do they have them at the public library?

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