Melungeon History / Pride
Ancestor

Lexington, KY

#52 Jul 21, 2013
I would love to have some links to current Melungeon forums if anyone has them to share, thank you.
OWB

Huntington, IN

#53 Jul 28, 2013
Ancestor wrote:
I would love to have some links to current Melungeon forums if anyone has them to share, thank you.
I agree. This is a very interesting topic. I have researched my family history back to the 1700's and have found that I have predominantly Scottish-Irish heritage. However, I find this topic VERY interesting so please keep it going!
Melungeon Gal

Cincinnati, OH

#54 Aug 5, 2013
Ancestor wrote:
I would love to have some links to current Melungeon forums if anyone has them to share, thank you.
Oh My Goodness - Nancy
Saint Albans, WV on page 1, has a lot of Melungeon sources.
Steve

Hattiesburg, MS

#55 Aug 18, 2013
My grand parents lived in Floyd County KY and are listed as white but from looking at them and my own father they are clearly not white. I was told my grand mother was forced to go to OK but returned to KY. I have been able to find out very little about my family as my grand parents were deceased before I was born.I was told my grand mother was full blooded Indian and my grand father was 3/4 Indian. Any information anyone may have about my family would be very welcomed. Grand fathers last name was Bailey and grand mothers last name was Cole.
check

London, KY

#56 Aug 19, 2013
Check with the wolfe county library and the morgan county library as well as Magoffin genealogy society. They have lots of resources on the Baileys. There was actually two branches that came to this area and no one has found any connection. I have heard the Bailey's do have some indian ancestory. I don't have my late husband's genealogy as he gave it to his great niece. They have a Bailey line.
Joanne

New Baltimore, MI

#57 Sep 1, 2013
Anyone interested in the Melungeons might want to read some of the information at the two links below on the history of these people called Melungeons.

There were people on Newmans Ridge who came from Va and NC but there were also settlements in Wilson and Hamtilton County, Tennessee also called Melungeons that did not come from the Va-NC area thought they may have had some of the same genetic ancestors. I hope these links are helpful.

http://the-melungeons.blogspot.com/2009/11/ea...

http://www.historical-melungeons.com/index.ht...
Melungeon Mutt

Normal, IL

#58 Nov 5, 2013
All these years, I thought I was just a plain boring WASP. Turns out that I am most likely Melungeon with an Anatolian Bump, shovel teeth, dark wavy hair, dark blue eyes,fair skin that doesn't tan much. Melungeon ancestors are from Floyd Co. KY. This is WAAAAY more interesting that being a plain old boring WASP.
Earthchild Marie

United States

#60 Nov 18, 2013
Melungeon Gal wrote:
Looking for info on Allen, Carter, Collier, Clair/Clare/Clear/Clearwater, Davis, Dial, Elkins, Harris,Lawson, Moore, Shuff, Smith, and Stallard Melungeons. I know I have it in my DNA because my blue-eyed, blonde-haired granddaughter has Familial Mediterranean fever.
I'm a Carter. Don't know yet if I'm a Melungeon. See my [still being added to!] family tree at http://CarterwivesNCTN1700' s.Tribalpages.com
Kitty

San Juan Capistrano, CA

#61 Feb 12, 2014
We are all of one race , human , so it doesn't really matter who went where or did what in the past. Adam and Eve were given the genes to reproduce descendants of many different physical features, and that is a blessing, just like the flowers, different varieties but all are beautiful.
True but

Corbin, KY

#62 Feb 12, 2014
Thats true, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to know your past. Honestly, this area has some of the older families that came to America, some as early as the late 1600s. They came to North Carolina and Virginia, then moved into KY around the late 1700s. There is some unique DNA around here, not just English, Scottish and Irish like people believe. There's also Jewish DNA in some of these early families, as well as Middle Eastern and Mediterranean. These folks then married Native American and African. Tri Racial Ancestry is not a mystery like some melungeon folks make it to be. Actually, DNA and history pretty much prove it. I agree, we started with Adam and Eve, but from there everyone's journey was different. Much more to who we are than we know. I fully support anyone who takes pride in tracing that journey.
True but

Corbin, KY

#63 Feb 12, 2014
Melungeon Mutt wrote:
All these years, I thought I was just a plain boring WASP. Turns out that I am most likely Melungeon with an Anatolian Bump, shovel teeth, dark wavy hair, dark blue eyes,fair skin that doesn't tan much. Melungeon ancestors are from Floyd Co. KY. This is WAAAAY more interesting that being a plain old boring WASP.
Some families in Eastern Kentucky do have a unique look. You can see it plainly. Dark Skin, dark-black hair, and either Middle Eastern-Jewish or Native American features. The Shovel Teeth are Native American, and the Bump is seen in lots of different people. Look up a picture of Sephardic Jewish people. You would be surprised at how many people here have that look.

http://www.thejerusalemconnection.us/blog/201...
Alexa Kelley

United States

#65 Feb 12, 2014
Also, the drawing on this website looks just like my granny lol!! Nose especially!
Alexa Kelley wrote:
Kelley here. Just started reading about this subject by chance. I have pictures of my "Indian" grandma and have been told out roots trace back to Ireland. My amily and my characteristics are as you all describe, tan skin, blue eyes, tall.... I'm wondering if we are included? My grandmother is from Morgan county (west liberty, ky), she's around 85. Don't know much beyond that, I will be asking tomorrow though lol! If anybody has any info id love to hear! <quoted text>
Native American DNA

Corbin, KY

#66 Feb 13, 2014
Alexa Kelley wrote:
Also, the drawing on this website looks just like my granny lol!! Nose especially!
<quoted text>
I have around 25% total of Middle East , Jewish, and Mediterranean. The 3% Native American as well, and my family is from Perry and Leslie County. Rest of my DNA is Welsh, English, and Scandinavian. The Jewish lady on the link looks just like my own family
Native American DNA

Corbin, KY

#67 Feb 13, 2014
Only thing that urks me is when the whole Melungeon thing came out, Brent Kennedy and others was looking at Tri Racial ancestry in general, which was a good thing. But in the last few years some Melungeon researchers have put themselves and families on a little island, saying they are the only true Melungeons. I agree that term was applied to some Gibsons, Collins, Goins, Bunch, etc. BUT, the term was a term used to describe people that was different. The same researchers also dispute how widespread Native American DNA is in the Cumberland Gap area. These families didn't really show Native American much, instead African and European. BUT, the test was only done on these few families. There are MANY families in this area with Native and the other DNA i mentioned. I know because at least 15 of us have took it upon ourselves to have DNA done and look at similarities to other groups of people. Some of us have now proven that we have the same genetic ties as the Cherokee in NC...JEWISH, NATIVE AMERICAN, AND MIDDLE EASTERN! And only 2 people in this share the same surname. The common link is we all had pictures and detailed history of Native American family ( more than 1 person, several in many cases ), our families moved from colonial Virginia or NC to Kentucky around 1800 ( same counties in many cases ), our families came to America pre 1700s, and we all have a very similar appearance.
Native American DNA

Corbin, KY

#68 Feb 13, 2014
truth wrote:
There are several people in this area doing alot of research on this. Yes, its true. There are sevral families around here with this DNA. BUT, they are not portugesse. They are Black, White, and Indian. Theres a Collins and Fields in London / Clay county that has proven it. The Fields are Ridgetop Shawnee Indians, but tri racial. The Sizemores are primarily Cherokee Indian. Collins are also Black, White, Indians like the Fields. I wouldnt call them Melungeon though...thats kinda a racial slur. Sad to see racism and hate on here because people are tri racial. Looks like Corbin hasnt changed after all
The Ridgetop Shawnee is not a legit tribe, but the Feilds and Sizemore families are deeply rooted Cherokee and Creek families, not Shawnee. Look up these on the Dawes Roll, its well proven. The ones in Kentucky escaped the trail of tears. Alot of their families was taken west on the Trail of Tears, with Feilds being the biggest group of Cherokee removed.There are more here. Musselwhite, Ballou, Begley, Jones, Allen, and several other families. They all intermarried alot, especially Begley and Sizemore. The Black Begleys in Hyden Ky are of this line. And, Shepherd is another family that ties into this, again marrying into both the sizemore and begley families very early on. Lots of Native DNA in these folks. Pretty well known. Not sure about the Collins, i think they are African / White

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#69 Mar 28, 2014
So only in east Tn are melungeons present? My g grandma is from lake county and listed as mulatto on the census. She was born in 1914. Her father was born between 1885-1887 in Ky. He moved to Tn and met my Gg grandma. His name is Pearl White and ironically he was listed as white. My gg grandma was said to be "cherokee" (by my grandmother) but its probably a myth...
I know

Nicholasville, KY

#71 May 17, 2014
Melungeon Gal wrote:
People who have been termed as Melungeons are all of mixed race. Not everyone family is considered to be of the same mixture. It was at one time meant as a racial slur, that's true, but that's not how it is meant here.
There are valid medical reasons for wanting to know what racial background your ancestors were. Familial Mediterranean Fever, which is caused by a mutation of the 16th chromazone, and thousands of other deadly illnesses can be traced from bloodlines of only ONE race. We are talking about multiple races here. I have one grandchild with FMF and another grandchild going deaf. The doctors have not yet found ANY reason for his hearing loss.
For those of you not interested in this topic, why are you even bothering to read it? Why take the time to write about it? You must just enjoy conflict and hurting other people. May God bless you anyway.
For anyone really interested in learning and understanding more, check out the websites from 'Oh My Goodness, Nancy.' She knows what she's talking about.
I myself have been diagnosed with cold urticaria which is rare. In looking that up I came across the FMF. I have had all of those symptoms in the past that is listed for the FMF. I even read an article that said if I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia I needed to be tested for that. When I approached the Allergist who diagnosed the Cold Urticaria he knew absolutely nothing about the FMF. When I approached my Dr. She shrugged me off saying that was for people over there. Since that time I found out one of my greats was Mungeleon and might be connected with another one of my lines. I went to The Mayo Clinic thinking surely they could get to the bottom of this and they gave me an allergist who knew absolutely nothing about this. When I became upset, he did admit they use to have a Dr. there who did a study but he was no longer there. I'm at loss because I can't seem to find anyone who does specialize or knows anything about this. People think you are crazy when you say you are allergic to pressure and cold. They have a test for cold but not for pressure, or at least that is what the allergist says.
I know

Nicholasville, KY

#72 May 17, 2014
Kitty wrote:
We are all of one race , human , so it doesn't really matter who went where or did what in the past. Adam and Eve were given the genes to reproduce descendants of many different physical features, and that is a blessing, just like the flowers, different varieties but all are beautiful.
That is so true. I have been working on my geno. I would like to see the look on these people's faces that are prejudice if they were to get their DNA done.
I know

Nicholasville, KY

#73 May 17, 2014
Steve wrote:
My grand parents lived in Floyd County KY and are listed as white but from looking at them and my own father they are clearly not white. I was told my grand mother was forced to go to OK but returned to KY. I have been able to find out very little about my family as my grand parents were deceased before I was born.I was told my grand mother was full blooded Indian and my grand father was 3/4 Indian. Any information anyone may have about my family would be very welcomed. Grand fathers last name was Bailey and grand mothers last name was Cole.
I had some Coles connecting in my family from Estill Co. If you ever get stumped try Madison Co. People moved into that area before branching out.

Since: Nov 13

United States

#74 May 18, 2014
The best place to find out about your Cherokee ancestors is in the Guion Miller applications. You can access them at Fold3.com which is available for research in any FamilyHistoryCenter, which are located in many Mormon church buildings. find your closest one at LDS.com

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