Melungeon History / Pride
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#1 Aug 31, 2011
All of us that are Melungeon decent need to get together and start talking about our heritage and ancestory. I know, some people want to say this area is a melting pot and all, but us as Melungeons know the truth about our history...lets embrace it!!
#2 Aug 31, 2011
Melungeon (/məˈl&# 652;ndʒən/ mə-lun-jən) is a term traditionally applied to one of a number of "tri-racial isolate" groups of the Southeastern United States, mainly in the Cumberland Gap area of central Appalachia, which includes portions of East Tennessee, Southwest Virginia, and East Kentucky. Tri-racial describes populations thought to be of mixed European, sub-Saharan African, and Native American ancestry.
The Melungeon DNA Project, which has made its results public, so far shows overwhelming mixed European and sub-Saharan African haplotypes of females and males in several families traditionally identified as Melungeon and considered so by researchers.
My whole family is Melungeon, on both sides...Lets quit accepting our imaginary Indian Great Grandma and supposed Scott-Irish family..Some of us, espcially if your family is from Perry or Harlan county, need to stop believing the lies about our dark skin, Hazel and Blue Eyes..We are Mediteranean decent, our families came here with DeSotto when he was exploring this country, and we was here with the Indians well before the English came..This is DOCUMENTED AND PROVEN!! The DeSotto fort has been excavated...the English talked about dark people wearing cloths and speaking broken English, that WASNT Indian..Lets push the schools and other people to teach the truth. Lets be proud of who we are and stand up for our heritage.
#3 Aug 31, 2011
The Melungeon descendants have some rather unique physiological characteristics. There is a bump on the back of the head of some descendants, that is located at mid-line, just above the juncture with the neck. It is about the size of half a golf ball or smaller.
There is also a ridge on the back of the first four teeth (upper and lower) of some descendants. If you place your fingernail at the gum line and gently draw (up or down) you can feel it and it makes a slight clicking sound. The back of the teeth also curve outward rather than straight as the descendants of anglo-saxon parentage do. Teeth like these are called Asian Shovel Teeth.
Some descendants have what is called an Asian eyefold. This is rather difficult to describe. At the inner corner of the eye, the upper lid attaches slightly lower than the lower lid. That is to say that it overlaps the bottom lid. If you place your finger just under the inner corner of the eye and gently pull down, a wrinkle will form which makes the fold more visible. Some people call these eyes, "sleepy eyes, dreamy eyes, bedroom eyes."
#4 Aug 31, 2011
Common Melungeon Surname List ****North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Adams, Adkins, Allen, Allmond, Ashworth,
Barker, Barnes, Bass, Beckler, Bedgood, Bell, Bennett, Berry, Beverly, Biggs, Bolen/Bowlen/Bolling/Bowling, Boone, Bowman, Badby, Branham, Braveboy, Briger/Bridger, Brogan, Brooks, Brown, Bunch, Butler, Butters, Bullion, Burton, Buxton, Byrd,
Campell, Carrico, Carter, Casteel, Caudill, Chapman, Chavis, Clark, Cloud, Coal/Cole/Coles, Coffey, Coleman, Colley, Collier/Colyer, Collins, Collinsworth, Cook(e), Cooper, Cotman, Counts, Cox/Coxe, Criel, Croston, Crow, Cumba/Cumbo/Cumbow, Curry, Custalow,
Dalton, Dare, Davis, Denham, Dennis, Dial, Dorton, Doyle, Driggers, Dye, Dyess,
Ely, Epps, Evans, Fields, Freeman, French,
Gann, Garland, Gibbs, Gibson/Gipson, Goins/Goings, Gorvens, Gowan/Gowen, Graham, Green(e), Gwinn,
Hall, Hammon, Harmon, Harris, Harvie/Harvey, Hawkes, Hendricks/Hendrix, Hill, Hillman, Hogge, Holmes, Hopkins, Howe, Hyatt,
Jackson, James, Johnson, Jones,
Keith, Kennedy, Kiser,
Langston, Lasie, Lawson, Locklear, Lopes, Lowry, Lucas,
Maddox, Maggard, Major, Male/Mayle, Maloney, Marsh, Martin, Miles, Minard, Miner/Minor, Mizer, Moore, Morley, Mullins, Mursh,
Nash, Nelson, Newman, Niccans, Nichols, Noel, Norris,
Orr, Osborn/Osborne, Oxendine,
Page, Paine, Patterson, Perkins, Perry, Phelps, Phipps, Pinder, Polly, Powell, Powers, Pritchard, Pruitt,
Ramey, Rasnick, Reaves/Reeves, Revels, Richardson, Roberson/Robertson/Robinson, Russell,
Sammons, Sampson, Sawyer, Scott, Sexton, Shavis, Shepherd/Shephard, Short, Sizemore, Smiling, Smith, Stallard, Stanley, Steel, Stevens, Stewart, Strother, Sweat/Swett, Swindall,
Tally, Taylor, Thompson, Tolliver, Tuppance, Turner,
Vanover, Vicars/Viccars/ Vickers,
Ware, Watts, Weaver, White, Whited, Wilkins, Williams, Williamson, Willis, Wisby, Wise, Wood, Wright, Wyatt, Wynn
#5 Aug 31, 2011
Dont soley rely on verbal history, thats mistake #1. Our families tried to hide who they was and tried to marry White people to be accepted. Look at the actual documents..My family was listed FPC ( Free Person of Color ) or Mullato..FPC can be an indication of Indian also, BUT.......Mullato is mixed. Our families was classified this way, even though the TOLD THEM ( this too is documented ) that they was PORTUGESSE!! Why does America have to lie and avoid the truth? The English was not the first ones to visit the Indians, it was the Mediteranean sailors on DeSottos expeditions that met the Indians, and they lived here, together, with no problems..The English is the ones that felt like they ruled the world and wanted to take land from these people. No, not everyone on the Surname list is a Melungeon, and every family has a different mix. Mine is around 68% Turkish - Moore mix ( or Tripoli ), the rest is a little bit Indian and some Scottish. Melungeons took English surnames in the mid-late 1700s..thats why alot of Melungeons dead end in the period. Melungeon Pride!!!!!!!!!! Keep it Alive!!!!!!!!!
#6 Aug 31, 2011
No, not everyone in Eastern KY with these names are Melungeon. One thing to look for is did your family move from NC to Hawkins County TN, then move to Ky?? Especially Newmans Ridge, to be specific? Also, Melungeons DID NOT follow the Wilderness trail. Thats why along the trail, especially on what is now 229 / Lily area, you see names like McCaurge, McCarty, Mcqeen, etc..The Melungeon families avoided the trail and moved into the mountains of whats now Perry, Leslie, Clay, and Harlan Counties...Thats also why people in those areas are still very dark.The core families moved there and never left, except for the few that went north to get jobs. Yes, there was also Indians, Cherokee to be exact, that moved from NC to here..Both the Indians and the Melungeons was trying to avoid the Trail of Tears...
#8 Aug 31, 2011
Just thought i would share the truth...so, if you are thinking about going to your homeland for vacation, may want to think about what you really are..you may be booking a flight to Portugal or Turkey instead of Irelend or Scottland..lol..Im proud to be who i am, and so glad to know the TRUTH, instead of the lies that has been passed down in our families..and if any of you are racist, you might just want to think about who your bashing...may be your GGGG Grandpa your talking about, cause yes, African sailors was on these ships, and i too have that on my mothers side. African / Mediteranean / Indian, with a dab of Scott....thats me!!!
#11 Sep 2, 2011
Who cares what you are, sounds like you need a hobby to me, you have wayyy too much time on your hands, we don't want to read about your whatever it's called race!
#12 Sep 2, 2011
my last name is bunch. i have very white skin, bright blue eyes and red/blonde hair. also, my mothers maiden name was McHargue. our families helped settle this area. now, the political guy in w'burg ( that got hurt by students at school ) will fit the melungeon description. also, from the movie " oh brother where art thou" the guy on the dapper dan hair creme was a real person. dan bunch.
#14 Sep 2, 2011
Ok I see the history lesson here. Maybe you should write a book with facts.. Should be very interesting..but facts please..
#17 Sep 3, 2011
Can't we all just admit to being HUMANS, with all the good and bad that comes with it and move on?
I'm all for tracing family trees, but why does what color Great-Grandma was have to enter into it at all (unless you're maybe trying to get a better idea of what her life may have been like in more ignorant times.)
#20 Sep 5, 2011
thanks for using some of my materials on Melungeons. I see that prejudice has already raised its ugly head and I am familiar with the 'munchkins' commentator - a kinsman - whose DNA leads back to a Turkiq-like people who lived in Russia and who were idolatrous barbarians and very war-like. Perfect description of this family today with few exceptions!
Here are my websites for further research for any interested. IF you're not, then just skip over this.
The Melungeon Health Education and Support Network:
A Melungeon mailing list that is family friendly - to join, send an e-mail to:[email protected] groups.com
Melungeon Printed Resources:
ONE HUNDRED and SIXTY-NINE Melungeon and associated websites:
Melungeon Definition 2000.
By a committee composed of Karlton Douglas (chair), Mike Nassau, Dennis Maggard, Nancy Sparks Morrison,... contains several urls as well.. www.melungeondef2000.webs.com/
Melungeon Information and Common Surname List:
Diagrams of physical characteristics
Sparks Genealogy: http://SparksGenealogy.net
(Select: Index/Nancy's Corner/The Melungeon Connection)
(Select: Index/The Melungeon Media Release)
Searching SPARKS, HAGER, JAYNE, RAMEY/REMY, COLLINS, MUSICK, WALKER, PORTER
MAYO, CAREY/CARY NAPIER,QUEEN, PERDUE, KELLEY, LETT,
#22 Jul 13, 2012
Looking for info on Allen, Carter, Collier, Clair/Clare/Clear/Clearwater, Davis, Dial, Elkins, Harris,Lawson, Moore, Shuff, Smith, and Stallard Melungeons. I know I have it in my DNA because my blue-eyed, blonde-haired granddaughter has Familial Mediterranean fever.
#24 Feb 4, 2013
There are several people in this area doing alot of research on this. Yes, its true. There are sevral families around here with this DNA. BUT, they are not portugesse. They are Black, White, and Indian. Theres a Collins and Fields in London / Clay county that has proven it. The Fields are Ridgetop Shawnee Indians, but tri racial. The Sizemores are primarily Cherokee Indian. Collins are also Black, White, Indians like the Fields. I wouldnt call them Melungeon though...thats kinda a racial slur. Sad to see racism and hate on here because people are tri racial. Looks like Corbin hasnt changed after all
#26 Feb 5, 2013
People who have been termed as Melungeons are all of mixed race. Not everyone family is considered to be of the same mixture. It was at one time meant as a racial slur, that's true, but that's not how it is meant here.
There are valid medical reasons for wanting to know what racial background your ancestors were. Familial Mediterranean Fever, which is caused by a mutation of the 16th chromazone, and thousands of other deadly illnesses can be traced from bloodlines of only ONE race. We are talking about multiple races here. I have one grandchild with FMF and another grandchild going deaf. The doctors have not yet found ANY reason for his hearing loss.
For those of you not interested in this topic, why are you even bothering to read it? Why take the time to write about it? You must just enjoy conflict and hurting other people. May God bless you anyway.
For anyone really interested in learning and understanding more, check out the websites from 'Oh My Goodness, Nancy.' She knows what she's talking about.
#27 Feb 5, 2013
Here is a good article written in may 2012 about melungeons. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/melu... seems we are the offspring of sub-Saharan African men and white women of northern or central European origin. The latest DNA study limited participants to those whose families were called Melungeon in the historical records of the 1800s and early 1900s in and around Tennessee's Hawkins and Hancock Counties, on the Virginia border some 200 miles northeast of Nashville.
So there are other possiblities.
There are several other branches of melungeons in the us, such as the redbones in louisana.(which is my family line) or another group called brass ankles. There are many different branches on the east coast that migrated to the south. All where trying to hide out and avoid Persecution because of thier real ethcinity.
#28 Feb 5, 2013
The ones i know in this area are Black, White, and Indian. The Iberian input came in from West Ireland, as it did with north Africans, according to Tri Racial people i have spoke with. This is where alot of these disease came in. Anyhow, there are alot of tri racial people in eastern Ky. More than are in Newmans ridge now. The Indian input is often Shawnee, not Cherokee as alot of people claim. And yes, they started as Indentured Servants and North African Slaves that married, then later mixed with Shawnee in Kentucky. The families i mentioned earlier are the only ones that actually are Indians that took english names. They later mixed with whites and indians
#29 Feb 5, 2013
Which points back to what you'all do not want to believe and really hate to admit: Mother Africa!!
#30 Feb 5, 2013
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Who cares what you are, sounds like you need a hobby to me, you have wayyy too much time on your hands, we don't want to read about your whatever it's called race![/QUOTE]my sentiments exactly! Who gives a hairy rats ass? Mellungeon sounds like a big toothy fish.
#31 Feb 7, 2013
You sound like a racist to me
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