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truth

Morehead, KY

#41 Jul 22, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
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Did he tell you the precise hour that would happen?
"People"? Do you actually fit the classification to be considered "people"? lol Could you explain to us exactly who got a $2500 per year increase? Could you explain to us precisely how it is Obamacare isn't going to work?
If you continue to anticipate instant gratification, then you'd better start scratching your as- because it's going to itch.
The precise hour? Could you explain to us exactly who got a $2500 per year increase? Could you explain to us precisely how it is Obamacare isn't going to work?
It was when the unions sent letters to him and the Democrats who passed Obamacare telling them that ObamaCare will “destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class” and will “destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans,”.
When those workers who lose their full time status are left to buy their own insurance their premiums will increase? Even you should understand that.

Could you explain to us precisely how it is Obamacare isn't going to work?
I think Obama explained it very well when he made the decision to NOT enforce a part of the law that he signed into law. It's unconstitutional for him to not enforce the law, Period!

I must say I have no sympathy for the unions. They voted for the Dems, pushed Obamacare and paid for it with campaign funding. If you run with dogs you will eventually get fleas.

Obama's second term is not looking good. We have Dems saying his signature achievement is a "train wreck". He failed on gun control. Hopefully he will fail on the race war too.

“Walk With Me in Hell”

Since: Apr 13

Hell, Norway

#42 Jul 22, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
Find me one President that hasn't broken promises and I'll award you the Golden Globe. Your Congress has done NOTHING...did I say NOTHING?
They'll soon be going for their 40th attempt...did I say futile attempt?
Get closer to me here Satan. Obama is here and will be here until the next election. In the meantime, see if you can't start working on some catalytic converters or plug some tires.
Yes, he will be here for a few more years.

That should give me time to start my non-profit organization, file for tax exempt status, of which I should be able to get the green light on, pretty quickly now that the heat is on the IRS. Then i`ll start getting word out to the majority of people that don`t even vote, to get out and vote in the proper people to rid us of this twenty thousand page monstrosity called Obamacare.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#43 Jul 22, 2013
_satan_64 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, he will be here for a few more years.
That should give me time to start my non-profit organization, file for tax exempt status, of which I should be able to get the green light on, pretty quickly now that the heat is on the IRS. Then i`ll start getting word out to the majority of people that don`t even vote, to get out and vote in the proper people to rid us of this twenty thousand page monstrosity called Obamacare.
I know your type, Satan. You don't have insurance currently.You've become accustomed to living off the system and allowed others to pay for you, and, would like to continue to do so without digging into your own pocket and contributing to your own health.

Am I warm yet?
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#44 Jul 22, 2013
truth wrote:
<quoted text>
The precise hour? Could you explain to us exactly who got a $2500 per year increase? Could you explain to us precisely how it is Obamacare isn't going to work?
It was when the unions sent letters to him and the Democrats who passed Obamacare telling them that ObamaCare will “destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class” and will “destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans,”.
When those workers who lose their full time status are left to buy their own insurance their premiums will increase? Even you should understand that.
Could you explain to us precisely how it is Obamacare isn't going to work?
I think Obama explained it very well when he made the decision to NOT enforce a part of the law that he signed into law. It's unconstitutional for him to not enforce the law, Period!
I must say I have no sympathy for the unions. They voted for the Dems, pushed Obamacare and paid for it with campaign funding. If you run with dogs you will eventually get fleas.
Obama's second term is not looking good. We have Dems saying his signature achievement is a "train wreck". He failed on gun control. Hopefully he will fail on the race war too.
Oh, so now that the Unions are operating in your favor, all of a sudden, Unions are stupendous! I like that one!

The Unions collectively didn't contribute as much as Romney's one biggest contributor, the Vegas billionaire.

Obamacare is here to stay. Whatever is tossed out, will infiltrate itself back in over time. Sit back, get comfortable and given time, you'll get over your disease.

What we have in Washington is, a Congress that is having one Hell of a time being a Republican, yet at the same time, appeasing all their biggest conservative contributors. The Tea Party is richer than the Republican Party, pushing really hard for their Communistic dictatorship.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#45 Jul 22, 2013
_satan_64 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, he will be here for a few more years.
That should give me time to start my non-profit organization, file for tax exempt status, of which I should be able to get the green light on, pretty quickly now that the heat is on the IRS. Then i`ll start getting word out to the majority of people that don`t even vote, to get out and vote in the proper people to rid us of this twenty thousand page monstrosity called Obamacare.
Be kind enough to let me know when you begin your heroic journey becoming non-profit. You will do that for me, right? But you wouldn't want to turn me loose on that one....would you?

Say, how's the cash going fer ya when they pick up those cars and hand you cash? Certainly one wouldn't want to go digging up your garden for metal boxes...would they? Between you and Gilliam's, you might make that little town think you've struck gold and they'll start confusing you with the Clampett's.

“Walk With Me in Hell”

Since: Apr 13

Hell, Norway

#46 Jul 23, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
I know your type, Satan. You don't have insurance currently.You've become accustomed to living off the system and allowed others to pay for you, and, would like to continue to do so without digging into your own pocket and contributing to your own health.
Am I warm yet?
Not even lukewarm,

I pay my own way, and expect others to do the same.

The concept of paying for everyone else`s healthcare, actually makes me sick to my stomach thinking of what this country is "trying" to turn into.

“Walk With Me in Hell”

Since: Apr 13

Hell, Norway

#47 Jul 23, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
Be kind enough to let me know when you begin your heroic journey becoming non-profit. You will do that for me, right? But you wouldn't want to turn me loose on that one....would you?
Say, how's the cash going fer ya when they pick up those cars and hand you cash? Certainly one wouldn't want to go digging up your garden for metal boxes...would they? Between you and Gilliam's, you might make that little town think you've struck gold and they'll start confusing you with the Clampett's.
Now.... You know not reporting cash paid for services is against the law, especially if you get caught, Lol!

I really don`t need another bookkeeping firm, but if you are hurting for money i could hire you to just help with the non profit side of my enterprises. I would just hope that you are as up to date and efficient as you claim to be.

OH! Do you have all your shots?
Need2 abolish IRS ASAP

Montréal, Canada

#48 Jul 24, 2013
WE NEED TO ABOLISH THE IRS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!
The most glaring evidence yet that the IRS is being used as a political weapon surfaced earlier this week. Appearing Monday on Sean Hannity's syndicated radio show, former GOP Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell said an independent criminal investigator told her that a Delaware state official had illegally accessed her personal and private tax records. She also said that information was "compromised and misused."
Later that same evening, O'Donnell repeated her claims on FOX News' "The O'Reilly Factor" -- adding that the very day she announced her candidacy, her records were accessed. She also said the IRS placed an erroneous tax lien on a home that she no longer owned. "Weeks after," O'Donnell explained, "the IRS admitted the mistake and credited it to a 'so-called' computer error." Click here to watch O'Donnell's appearance on "The O'Reilly Factor" and to take immediate action to abolish the IRS: www.grassfire.com/990/petition.asp
++ IRS Actions Raise More Questions! Since her private records were hacked, O'Donnell has spent thousands but has yet to learn why her tax records were scrutinized. She suggests the timing of the actions and the political damage that it did "simply raises more questions ...[and] points to a need to continue the investigation to get to the bottom of this." As the trail of IRS abuses gets closer to the White House, liberty-loving Americans cannot stand by and watch the Justice Department, far-left Democrats and the liberal media dutifully tell low-information voters, "Move along. There's nothing to see here."
Despite their best attempts to pivot away from any further investigation, confidential taxpayer information of political candidates and donors was illegally accessed and used as a political weapon. These assaults on our freedom MUST be fully investigated.++ Stand Today Against IRS Tyranny!
With compelling evidence that the IRS was used by the Obama administration to silence political enemies the time has come for grassroots conservatives to answer back. Demand an end to the IRS before this rogue agency can do even more harm to the American people.(Remember, the IRS will be the administrators of ObamaCare in 2014!) Go here now to add your name to the important "Abolish the IRS" petition and become part of the grassroots movement to rid America of this heavy-handed federal agency once and for all: www.grassfire.com/990/petition.asp Another day passing without your signature could be perceived as your support for this kind of scandalous behavior by the IRS.++ 150,000 Petitions Needed: With this latest, and potentially most egregious, evidence of IRS wrong-doing, grassroots Americans must respond and demand an end to the IRS. That's why Grassfire is finalizing efforts to hand-deliver petitions to Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) and members of the Senate Judiciary Committee who are currently investigating the IRS. However, to maximize grassroots response, 150,000 petitions are needed before a delivery can take place. Ensure that your petition is included in this critical petition delivery by going here now and signing the "Abolish the IRS" petition: www.grassfire.com/990/petition.asp After signing, alert your friends and friends. Encourage them to watch Christine O'Donnell's telling appearance on "The O'Reilly Factor." Then ask your fellow patriots to join with you in signing this national petition to abolish the IRS by clicking here now.
Need2 abolish IRS ASAP

Montréal, Canada

#49 Jul 24, 2013
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The White House, the Justice Department and the liberal media want the IRS scandal to go away. You need to make sure it doesn't! Thank you, in advance, for taking action.
The Grassfire Team
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Well

London, KY

#50 Jul 25, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
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Now, isn't that exactly what a Mother Teresa would do. Except, it's not stealing. Mother Teresa would take $1M from you and give it to the poor Jones' family down the street. I happen to be part of what you refer to as "thinking it's the Lord's work", because...it certainly is. I'm not Catholic, however, I had alot of respect for her. She left a vast empire of riches herself and chose to work in the swamps with the poor. I also admire Mr. Graham as my #1. Your human definition of "stealing" is really "protecting the wealth". You might also admire Joel Olsteen's comment of "there's nothing wrong with having money while you're living, but there is something wrong with dying with it". That says it all right there, because if wealth was shared the right way, these millionaires would not only not die with it, but they'd be paying their fair share of taxes on it the entire time they were "deferring" it (what I call "hoarding"). The fact these wealth mongruls "defer" all their lives, throws more tax burden onto those who can't afford to do anything but eat and pay their rent on what that "deferring" millionaire pays them. Talk about legalized stealing? It's moral financial treason is what it is.
I think your dislike for the wealthy is causing you to fall prey to be willing to see that immoral and unjust things be done to the rich. Its the equivalent of a pogrom. I believe if enough people of your thinking ever have a majority control, wealth accumulation will be a crime.

If Mother Teresa was in charge of a local county government and took my million dollars to give to the Jones family would you consider that theft?
Well

London, KY

#51 Jul 25, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
I know your type, Satan. You don't have insurance currently.You've become accustomed to living off the system and allowed others to pay for you, and, would like to continue to do so without digging into your own pocket and contributing to your own health.
Am I warm yet?
How about not having government force others to pay for those who don't have insurance by stealing their money? That's the role of charity. You aren't fooling anyone. We know you don't have a problem forcing people to pay for those without insurance through taxes. Obamacare is not going to make this more fair by making people pay for their own insurance. It will be more of the same. Obamacare will force more people out of work and taxpayers will subsidize their insurance. The real purpose of Obamacare is to get everyone wanting single payer by government after this fails miserably and leftists such as yourself assign the blame to capitalism and the evil insurance companies as to why their insurance is too high.
Well

London, KY

#52 Jul 25, 2013
_satan_64 wrote:
<quoted text>Not even lukewarm,
I pay my own way, and expect others to do the same.
The concept of paying for everyone else`s healthcare, actually makes me sick to my stomach thinking of what this country is "trying" to turn into.
In a free country, free people are not forced to do much off anything except not to violate the rights of others. SpeakUp would have the government do all sorts of things that satisfy her personal preferences and would make laws so arbitrary that no one would could predict what the rules would be. She doesn't think much of the notion of property rights because it does not allow her to do the thing she likes most - steal money from rich people to give to other people.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#53 Jul 25, 2013
Well wrote:
<quoted text>In a free country, free people are not forced to do much off anything except not to violate the rights of others. SpeakUp would have the government do all sorts of things that satisfy her personal preferences and would make laws so arbitrary that no one would could predict what the rules would be. She doesn't think much of the notion of property rights because it does not allow her to do the thing she likes most - steal money from rich people to give to other people.
The rich mostly stole it from the poor. According to your philosophy, the rich got rich by just working their little golden as-es off and that money just flew right into them on a private, bar and dance floor equipped jetliner.

I don't see that regulations and the likes is keeping big oil from profiting billions and billions and more billions. What are you crying about? Want more?
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#54 Jul 25, 2013
Well wrote:
<quoted text>How about not having government force others to pay for those who don't have insurance by stealing their money? That's the role of charity. You aren't fooling anyone. We know you don't have a problem forcing people to pay for those without insurance through taxes. Obamacare is not going to make this more fair by making people pay for their own insurance. It will be more of the same. Obamacare will force more people out of work and taxpayers will subsidize their insurance. The real purpose of Obamacare is to get everyone wanting single payer by government after this fails miserably and leftists such as yourself assign the blame to capitalism and the evil insurance companies as to why their insurance is too high.
The govt. may as well mandate it so people can get some "preventative" things covered and Mr. & Mrs. Daves little girl's insurance max don't run out so she'd be kicked out of the hospital to die versus allowing insurance companies (your private sector) to keep hiking rates to cover the uninsured. So, the Govt. lays a hammer down, or, your favorite insurance company does and the insurance company certainly doesn't have your health at heart. They have profits at heart, so they can keep their Wall St numbers up so some other fat cat can get fatter and the executives can exercise their ISO's and the likes for a nice hefty price.

Are you real? Or, just clueless?
Wrecking Crew

Hopkinsville, KY

#55 Jul 26, 2013
REPEAT!

There is one surefire way to get rid of Obamacare and hand Obama and his socialist welfare state Democratic backers a humiliating defeat in the bargain:

Relevant facts:

1. The U.S. Congress has not passed a federal budget in several years. Instead it has passed a series of "continuing resolutions" that allows the government to keep on spending money according to past the last budget. Congress has to pass a new continuing resolution before midnight on Sept. 30 or the government will have to shut down.

2. The Constitution says that all spending and tax bills must originate in the House.

3. Republicans control the House. They can put a "killer amendment" on the continuing budget resolution that ends funding for Obamacare, pass it, send it to the Democrat controlled Senate, and then refuse to budge. Just tell the Senate and Obama, "This is all you are going to get. Pass it, or the government shutdown will be on you, not us. We've done our job as mandated by the Constitution."

The Democrats in the Senate will have to pass it or be blamed for a government shutdown. Obama will have to climb down off his high camel and sign it or he will be blamed for the shutdown.

The Democrats and Obama might actually let the government shut down for a few days, but not for long. They won't dare let their welfare class base's checks and food stamps stop.

All the Republicans in the House have to do is stand together, look 'em straight in the eye, and don't blink.

And once Obama has been forced to back down on Obamacare, he and the Democrats are finished.
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#56 Jul 26, 2013
_satan_64 wrote:
<quoted text>Not even lukewarm,
I pay my own way, and expect others to do the same.
The concept of paying for everyone else`s healthcare, actually makes me sick to my stomach thinking of what this country is "trying" to turn into.
Satan, you're beyond an idiot if you think for once you haven't always paid for it. It was just the insurance companies that FORCED you to pay higher premiums to cover it vs the Govt.'s mandate. That's all. Rome wasn't built in a day. You will find that LONG term, this will help curtail costs. I am more opposed to being rap-d by the hospitals, doctors and people in the medical industry than I am a Govt. mandate of insurance. Obama put some curtailment on that, thus why the industry is up in arms. They have to get their kicks in a more civil fashion than rap-.

The End
SpeakUp

Eustis, FL

#57 Jul 26, 2013
Wrecking Crew wrote:
REPEAT!
There is one surefire way to get rid of Obamacare and hand Obama and his socialist welfare state Democratic backers a humiliating defeat in the bargain:
Relevant facts:
1. The U.S. Congress has not passed a federal budget in several years. Instead it has passed a series of "continuing resolutions" that allows the government to keep on spending money according to past the last budget. Congress has to pass a new continuing resolution before midnight on Sept. 30 or the government will have to shut down.
2. The Constitution says that all spending and tax bills must originate in the House.
3. Republicans control the House. They can put a "killer amendment" on the continuing budget resolution that ends funding for Obamacare, pass it, send it to the Democrat controlled Senate, and then refuse to budge. Just tell the Senate and Obama, "This is all you are going to get. Pass it, or the government shutdown will be on you, not us. We've done our job as mandated by the Constitution."
The Democrats in the Senate will have to pass it or be blamed for a government shutdown. Obama will have to climb down off his high camel and sign it or he will be blamed for the shutdown.
The Democrats and Obama might actually let the government shut down for a few days, but not for long. They won't dare let their welfare class base's checks and food stamps stop.
All the Republicans in the House have to do is stand together, look 'em straight in the eye, and don't blink.
And once Obama has been forced to back down on Obamacare, he and the Democrats are finished.
Are you a Communist attempting to instill fear and hate in our country?
Take America Back

Madisonville, KY

#58 Jul 27, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
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Are you a Communist attempting to instill fear and hate in our country?
You need to look up the definition of "Communist."

What Wrecking Crew is suggesting is that the House of Representatives use the Constitution's system of checks and balances to force a socialist administration to accept repeal of a law that the majority of Americans want repealed.

It is just good old fashioned hardball politics.

“Walk With Me in Hell”

Since: Apr 13

Hell, Norway

#59 Jul 27, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
Satan, you're beyond an idiot if you think for once you haven't always paid for it. It was just the insurance companies that FORCED you to pay higher premiums to cover it vs the Govt.'s mandate. That's all. Rome wasn't built in a day. You will find that LONG term, this will help curtail costs. I am more opposed to being rap-d by the hospitals, doctors and people in the medical industry than I am a Govt. mandate of insurance. Obama put some curtailment on that, thus why the industry is up in arms. They have to get their kicks in a more civil fashion than rap-.
The End
Actually you are wrong, they put a few clauses in there, like the pre-existing conditions one, but NEVER put a cap on premiums. They can raise them to what ever levels they find proper, and premiums have almost doubled since the bill was signed into law.

Hopefully they will defund the bill and it will somewhat end, but money will still continue to be stolen from the people that work way to hard for their paychecks.
Well

Louisville, KY

#60 Jul 27, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
The rich mostly stole it from the poor. According to your philosophy, the rich got rich by just working their little golden as-es off and that money just flew right into them on a private, bar and dance floor equipped jetliner.
I don't see that regulations and the likes is keeping big oil from profiting billions and billions and more billions. What are you crying about? Want more?
Yep. They mostly did get rich through hard work and initiative and probably an element of luck.
You are trying to redefine the definition of theft to serve your argument. You believe in literal theft of people's property to give to other people. You are perverting the definition of theft to justify actual theft of property from those you think unfairly profit from others. First, No one is being forced with the threat of violence to buy anything from anyone else. The consequences may be unpleasant living without certain purchases but there are other alternatives. Secondly, you should realize that profits are a signal there is money to be made and needs are being unmet. That signals others to provide goods and services that lower overall profits by providing competition. Didn't you ever read a basic economics textbook?

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