Sandy Hook Shooting = Hoax
steve

Morehead, KY

#23 Jan 18, 2013
Im not sure but I think that the video on youtube is made up of several pictures that people sent in. I agree that there is some thing that dont seem right but I dont think there is no way that thats a hoax. I could pick out something that really happened in my life and find all kinds of things that makes it look fake and drwa dought in peoples mind.
unsure

Middlesboro, KY

#24 Jan 18, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
Well I'm glad this finally turned into an intelligent conversation, but eventually some idiot will ruin it again. However.
One thing left out is the fact that there is irrefutable evidence showing 4 facebook memorial pages created on the 10th, 12th, and 13th before the shooting even took place. The girl on Obama's lap is not her younger sister, and the dress is identical. Also, that picture was taken on the same day the family photo was released and Emily was wearing the same dress..???... Also, the first time I heard about the shooting there were 3 gunmen verified. Then there was only 1. Mistakes can be made I guess, but wheres the official retraction? Once again, the facebook memorial pages made 3 and 4 days early bother me more than any of it. Also, the guy that changed his story from a woman bus driver to a man yelling at the kids dropped off in his driveway is a registered member of the Screen Actors Guild.
The girl on Obama's lap is NOT Emilie Parker. It is her sister, Madeline, more than likely in Emilie's dress. The pictures in the link clearly shows this:

http://contrailscience.com/skitch/4way-compar...

You can't look at those and still believe that is the same girl. Other than that, how about the nuns at the scene? They were so odd looking and the one to the left looks as though something is being hidden in his/her/it's coat. Notice the hand placement.

http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2012-12/73...

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t314/justt...
u r insane

United States

#25 Jan 18, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sIoPjfLnEFYXX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
Watch the entire thing and then try to debate it. Its the Government's Socialist ploy to sway the vote on gun control.
i hope if you ever have to lose a child people treat you the same way you are treating these families.you dont have the sense to know you are being used
unsure

Middlesboro, KY

#26 Jan 18, 2013
HilLogic wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with your first paragraph, but as to using the same security measures as Israel who's people live every day of their lives hearing gunfire, no I don't agree with that. But it sure is a scary time to have school age children. I'm thinking seriously of homeschooling this fall.

I have also considered homeschooling as well. There's just no limit to what people will do these days. The more extreme the better. I know these situations are obviously not limited to schools, but I would feel a whole lot safer if my children were with me instead of in school where the staff just aren't armed and able to protect them if needed. To me, I think it's a wonderful idea for the teachers and staff to go through proper concealed firearm training and be provided with a gun to protect their schools. If not all of them, then a handful at each school. It seems necessary. Someone has to be able to stop these psychos. If not training and guns at school, why not airport type security at each school? There's just no value that can be placed on the safety of our children.
lol

London, KY

#27 Jan 18, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
In addition to MK Ultra and Op. Paperclip, do some research on Rex 84 camps. By research, I don't mean look at the first website Google gives you, look at 4 or 5 of them and then Look at the credibility of the sources...REX 84 blew my mind, but nothing compared to the complacency and Gullibility of American citizens. Someone even went out of there way to call ME a terrorist because I refused to swallow what the bureaucratic media feeds me.
Have you always been a dumb bastard or was it a head injury later in life?
gtyuiyt87u6ty

Pella, IA

#28 Jan 18, 2013
u r retarded. You should be ashamed but u r not because...u r retarded

BAAAAAAAA sheep...BAAAAAAAAAAA
KYJonesy wrote:
Well I'm glad this finally turned into an intelligent conversation, but eventually some idiot will ruin it again. However.
One thing left out is the fact that there is irrefutable evidence showing 4 facebook memorial pages created on the 10th, 12th, and 13th before the shooting even took place. The girl on Obama's lap is not her younger sister, and the dress is identical. Also, that picture was taken on the same day the family photo was released and Emily was wearing the same dress..???... Also, the first time I heard about the shooting there were 3 gunmen verified. Then there was only 1. Mistakes can be made I guess, but wheres the official retraction? Once again, the facebook memorial pages made 3 and 4 days early bother me more than any of it. Also, the guy that changed his story from a woman bus driver to a man yelling at the kids dropped off in his driveway is a registered member of the Screen Actors Guild.

Since: Jan 13

Winchester, KY

#30 Jan 18, 2013
gtyuiyt87u6ty wrote:
u r retarded. You should be ashamed but u r not because...u r retarded
BAAAAAAAA sheep...BAAAAAAAAAAA
<quoted text>
the wool is pulled over your eyes and i'm the sheep? you probably believe everything the bible tells you too. its always the christians that lead wherever their followed. too faith driven to think for theirself. you have a gloriously oblivious life you pathetic bunch of apostles.
truth

United States

#31 Jan 18, 2013
It's sad that this is what our world is coming to. True or not true, just very sad. It is obvious with the various school shooting we need stricter gun laws. It is also obvious, we the people, have no faith or trust in our goverment. There are many loop holes in the story of sandy hook. Along with that, the si called grievibg parents who never shed a REAL tear. I couldn't imagine even trying ti do an interview so soon after my child was killed. It's just going to get worse, my friends.
baaaaaaaaaaaa

Somerset, KY

#32 Jan 18, 2013
I'm an atheist. You're just as deluded as any Christian. Your brain, like theirs, seeks to make up fairy tales to replace realities that you're not comfortable with.

Not much difference, sheep.
KYJonesy wrote:
<quoted text>
the wool is pulled over your eyes and i'm the sheep? you probably believe everything the bible tells you too. its always the christians that lead wherever their followed. too faith driven to think for theirself. you have a gloriously oblivious life you pathetic bunch of apostles.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#33 Jan 19, 2013
unsure wrote:
<quoted text>
I have also considered homeschooling as well. There's just no limit to what people will do these days. The more extreme the better. I know these situations are obviously not limited to schools, but I would feel a whole lot safer if my children were with me instead of in school where the staff just aren't armed and able to protect them if needed. To me, I think it's a wonderful idea for the teachers and staff to go through proper concealed firearm training and be provided with a gun to protect their schools. If not all of them, then a handful at each school. It seems necessary. Someone has to be able to stop these psychos. If not training and guns at school, why not airport type security at each school? There's just no value that can be placed on the safety of our children.
I agree with you. Some major changes have to take place immediately for me to feel secure enough about the public schools; otherwise I will most definitely be homeschooling.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#34 Jan 19, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
Well I'm glad this finally turned into an intelligent conversation, but eventually some idiot will ruin it again. However.
One thing left out is the fact that there is irrefutable evidence showing 4 facebook memorial pages created on the 10th, 12th, and 13th before the shooting even took place. The girl on Obama's lap is not her younger sister, and the dress is identical. Also, that picture was taken on the same day the family photo was released and Emily was wearing the same dress..???... Also, the first time I heard about the shooting there were 3 gunmen verified. Then there was only 1. Mistakes can be made I guess, but wheres the official retraction? Once again, the facebook memorial pages made 3 and 4 days early bother me more than any of it. Also, the guy that changed his story from a woman bus driver to a man yelling at the kids dropped off in his driveway is a registered member of the Screen Actors Guild.
I admit, I couldn't see the facebook pages in the video well enough to form an opinion one way or the other on that aspect of it.
However, I looked carefully at the photos and I think the picture of the president is with the two younger sisters, with Madeline wearing Emily's hand-me-down dress. Look at her face carefully and compare it to other family photos. That is the middle child wearing the dress. The other three children; a brown haired child on the president's lap and the other two on his left are unidentified children. The only thing I find strange about the Parker family is the Dad, who I think may be a sociopath.

I totally dismiss the man with his claims of the bus driver leaving children with him. I think he has mental problems and fabricated that whole story.

The number of guns and gunmen, I have a real problem with that. And I think there IS a real problem with it and that's why no pictures or video has been released yet. I'm sure when it is release it will be scrutinized carefully to determine if any tampering has been done.
I have no doubt in my mind that this horrible incident is being taken advantage of to the fullest extent by those who want to change the gun laws. But I try to refrain from becoming overzealous with regards to conspiracy theories. Even though I find it very strange how many situations have worked out advantageously for the current administration.
Thanks for starting this thread. I admit I hesitated to look at it in the beginning, due to the very idea of it being so unconscionable. But given the fact that I did have questions in my own mind surrounded the incident, I decided to look into it and I'm glad I did. It definitely bears the need of further scrutiny.

And on a final note; I read the posts between you and another poster regarding Christian vs atheist mentality and viewpoints. I am a Christian, but I try to be a discerning one. I don't think all Christians are gullible, nor do I think all atheists are open minded. Each of us are individual human beings trying to live together on this planet. I wish we could put our prejudices aside and stop assuming things about each other. If we could have a little respect for each other, maybe then we could find a common ground to walk on together in the short time we're here.

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#35 Jan 19, 2013
News agencies are now having to look more closely at reports because things just don't add up.

In light of recent information coming out about the agenda to disarm America, its clear that serious changes need to be made in our government and media.

Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart

"Quite possibly the most obvious example would be to point out that the entire gun control “debate” hinges on the fact that “assault” weapons were used to kill children and staff at the school. Even though it was reported, complete with video evidence the day after the shootings, the only so-called “assault” weapon at the scene, which actually looks more like a shotgun, had been left in the trunk of the car, and was never used.(A car that ended up not belonging to the alledged shooter, Adam Lanza, or his mother after all).

In spite of this bombshell information, the media as a whole (scriptwriters and teleprompter programmers) ran with the false assertion an assault rifle was used nonetheless and are still largely going with that fake reality today, especially on TV... Fully knowing that's not the case. Unless you just crawled out of bin Laden's cave for the first time, everyone's heard the constant drumbeat for gun “control” on almost every radio and TV station in the country, especially the argument that so-called “assault” weapons and large capacity magazines should be banned, despite not being used at the shooting.(Therefore, an assault weapons or large magazine ban would not have prevented the school shootings, regardless)."

http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-ho ...

Sandy Hook smoking guns emerge (Photos)

"Another week has gone by since the Newtown, Connecticut shooting tragedy. Following suit is a weekly emergence of more stunning information that unfortunately points to a much different scenario surrounding the events than what the public has been led to believe.

On top of the already obvious omissions made by the establishment's media, like the fact that there were no assault rifles used to kill any students or staff at the school, at least one other assailant was arrested attempting to flee from the scene and the impossible coincidence Sandy Hook would be referenced on a map as a target area in the “Dark Knight Rises” Batman movie, unavoidably associated with the Aurora theater shootings, new evidence has come to light that could be the smoking gun highlighting a much more serious situation than what the general public has been given the opportunity to understand."

http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-wa ...
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#36 Jan 19, 2013
wowed wrote:
News agencies are now having to look more closely at reports because things just don't add up.
In light of recent information coming out about the agenda to disarm America, its clear that serious changes need to be made in our government and media.
Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart
"Quite possibly the most obvious example would be to point out that the entire gun control “debate” hinges on the fact that “assault” weapons were used to kill children and staff at the school. Even though it was reported, complete with video evidence the day after the shootings, the only so-called “assault” weapon at the scene, which actually looks more like a shotgun, had been left in the trunk of the car, and was never used.(A car that ended up not belonging to the alledged shooter, Adam Lanza, or his mother after all).
In spite of this bombshell information, the media as a whole (scriptwriters and teleprompter programmers) ran with the false assertion an assault rifle was used nonetheless and are still largely going with that fake reality today, especially on TV... Fully knowing that's not the case. Unless you just crawled out of bin Laden's cave for the first time, everyone's heard the constant drumbeat for gun “control” on almost every radio and TV station in the country, especially the argument that so-called “assault” weapons and large capacity magazines should be banned, despite not being used at the shooting.(Therefore, an assault weapons or large magazine ban would not have prevented the school shootings, regardless)."
http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-ho ...
Sandy Hook smoking guns emerge (Photos)
"Another week has gone by since the Newtown, Connecticut shooting tragedy. Following suit is a weekly emergence of more stunning information that unfortunately points to a much different scenario surrounding the events than what the public has been led to believe.
On top of the already obvious omissions made by the establishment's media, like the fact that there were no assault rifles used to kill any students or staff at the school, at least one other assailant was arrested attempting to flee from the scene and the impossible coincidence Sandy Hook would be referenced on a map as a target area in the “Dark Knight Rises” Batman movie, unavoidably associated with the Aurora theater shootings, new evidence has come to light that could be the smoking gun highlighting a much more serious situation than what the general public has been given the opportunity to understand."
http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-wa ...
Neither of your links has anything at all regarding this subject matter.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#37 Jan 19, 2013
I just found this. Maybe Gene Rosen failed to mention that the bus driver came into his house as well, and that she called her supervisor, who in turn called the children's parents to inform them of the children's whereabouts.

“The school bus driver’s supervisor was able to get word to the children’s parents that they were safe, and they soon began to arrive to pick up the kids.”
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/12/18/heart-wr...
unsure

Middlesboro, KY

#38 Jan 19, 2013
I wonder how Adam Lanza lived for the past few years completely off the radar. Everyone who had known him said that it was like he disappeared from the face of the earth after 2009. His neighbors had never seen him, never heard of him. His brother had not seen him in a couple of years. His father had not had any contact with him in two or three years. Friends of his mother said they had never met him, nor did she ever allow guests in her home. There was no trace of this individual that anyone could account for from what I have read. Just so puzzling.
unsure

Middlesboro, KY

#39 Jan 19, 2013
He also had not been to his hairdresser in two or three years. What happened to this person?
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#40 Jan 19, 2013
unsure wrote:
He also had not been to his hairdresser in two or three years. What happened to this person?
Evidently he lived behind his computer screen.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-do...

I'm still wondering about him having his brother's I.D.. I haven't seen a report saying exactly what type of I.D. he had. Was it a piece of clothing with his brother's name in it. Since he supposedly hadn't seen his brother in a couple of years, it makes no sense that he would have his brother's drivers license or other legal form of identification.
derp

Alsip, IL

#41 Jan 20, 2013
Conspiracy Nut wrote:
WRONG!!!! You're a NUT!!!
I guess you think Bush brought down the Twin Towers, don't you?
You buy into the Illuminati nonsense too, don't you?
Bet you thought the world was gonna end on 12-21 , didn't you?
What a joke!!!
back to work Anderson Cooper
sandra

United States

#42 Jan 30, 2013
steve wrote:
Im not sure but I think that the video on youtube is made up of several pictures that people sent in. I agree that there is some thing that dont seem right but I dont think there is no way that thats a hoax. I could pick out something that really happened in my life and find all kinds of things that makes it look fake and drwa dought in peoples mind.
what like u being happy and laughing one minute while, ur child is dead and faking ur crying a second later ??????

“Pulmonary Hypertension aware”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#43 Feb 2, 2013
unsure wrote:
I really don't know what to think. The crisis actors comparisons don't really match, and the little girl on Obama's lap is not Emilie Parker. While she does appear to be wearing the same dress in the picture, the little girl on his lap is the victim's younger sister. There are a lot of unanswered questions. What troubles me the most is how staged and phony that Robbie Parker (Emilie's father) and Kaitlyn Roig's (1st grade teacher that survived) interviews were. The father was laughing and smiling until he thought the cameras were rolling, then he forced himself into a grieving character. The teacher kept wiping dry tears. So strange.
From a parent who lost a child i must say that judging someone for laughing in the days following thier childs death is unbelievable. In the first five days after my daughter died I can remember crying screaming, and yes laughing, as we talked about her life and the wonderous things she had done and the person she had been. Unless you have buried your child dont judge. Have you though that when the camera turned on he realized that it was not about the wonderful memories he was gonna talk but instead about the horrible reality. I can laugh as i think about my daughter until I have to speak of her death.

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