Sandy Hook Shooting = Hoax

Sandy Hook Shooting = Hoax

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Since: Jan 13

London, KY

#1 Jan 16, 2013
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Watch the entire thing and then try to debate it. Its the Government's Socialist ploy to sway the vote on gun control.

Since: Sep 09

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#3 Jan 16, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sIoPjfLnEFYXX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
Watch the entire thing and then try to debate it. Its the Government's Socialist ploy to sway the vote on gun control.
See what you did? You made me say something which caused Topix to threaten me with horrible and overly-cruel punishments and they zapped, deleted, and expunged my post.
Conspiracy Nut

London, KY

#4 Jan 16, 2013
WRONG!!!! You're a NUT!!!

I guess you think Bush brought down the Twin Towers, don't you?

You buy into the Illuminati nonsense too, don't you?

Bet you thought the world was gonna end on 12-21 , didn't you?

What a joke!!!

Since: Jan 13

London, KY

#5 Jan 16, 2013
Conspiracy Nut wrote:
WRONG!!!! You're a NUT!!!
I guess you think Bush brought down the Twin Towers, don't you?
You buy into the Illuminati nonsense too, don't you?
Bet you thought the world was gonna end on 12-21 , didn't you?
What a joke!!!
Actually I think terrorists brought down the world trade center, the Illuminati is a possibility and no, I didn't think the world was going to end on 12-21. Thank you for reiterating your stereotypical idiocy. What about the Facebook memorial pages made 3 DAYS EARLY, or the little girl in the picture with Obama in the same dress as her family photo shown by the news the day after she "DIED". Or her father hyperventilating to get into character when he thought the camera wasn't rolling. or the fact that all the students were shot with a .223 cal bushmaster, but the only rife found on scene was found locked in a car, found 2 hours after the shooter had shot himself (INSIDE THE SCHOOL which he never left after entering). In short, lol, YOUR A TWIT.
hoax

East Bernstadt, KY

#6 Jan 16, 2013
skip to the 8 min mark of that video if you are to watch any of it
BuyingIntoIt

Danville, KY

#7 Jan 17, 2013
Conspiracy Nut wrote:
WRONG!!!! You're a NUT!!!
I guess you think Bush brought down the Twin Towers, don't you?
You buy into the Illuminati nonsense too, don't you?
Bet you thought the world was gonna end on 12-21 , didn't you?
What a joke!!!
This is the exact mentality they are feeding you to have. Do not question anything, and anyone who does is a 'conspiracy theorist nutjob.' Is it really asking that much for you to look at the facts? The world ending on 12/21/12 was just speculation because some Mayans ran out of space on a circular calendar. No evidence of anything else. Evidence supports that the world trade centers fell due to thermite explosions used demolition-style. There is proof if you will just open your eyes and look for it instead of getting your facts from politically controlled and biased media outlets! Why is nothing being said or done about it? Because no one ever hears about it.

At Sandy Hook, there is early media footage of people saying there were 2 or 3 people involved, and at least one was arrested. Now no one is saying a word about it. Why? Do you not at least wonder why that is? Who he was? What happened to him?

It doesn't make you a 'conspiracy theorist nutjob' to want the truth, because if you find that the truth IS what they told you, no harm done. But if you just accept things as they are fed to you and accept media as fact, you are indeed a sheep, and there is plenty of harm done.

People need to stop living in Feel-Good Fantasy Land. Things go on that people do not know about and 'do not need to know about.' Look up MK Ultra or Operation Paperclip. Those are real and undisputed. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist nutjob just because they question some propaganda you saw on the news just makes you look like a sheep who is unable to think for him/her self.

Since: Jan 13

London, KY

#8 Jan 17, 2013
In addition to MK Ultra and Op. Paperclip, do some research on Rex 84 camps. By research, I don't mean look at the first website Google gives you, look at 4 or 5 of them and then Look at the credibility of the sources...REX 84 blew my mind, but nothing compared to the complacency and Gullibility of American citizens. Someone even went out of there way to call ME a terrorist because I refused to swallow what the bureaucratic media feeds me.
FYI

London, KY

#9 Jan 17, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
In addition to MK Ultra and Op. Paperclip, do some research on Rex 84 camps. By research, I don't mean look at the first website Google gives you, look at 4 or 5 of them and then Look at the credibility of the sources...REX 84 blew my mind, but nothing compared to the complacency and Gullibility of American citizens. Someone even went out of there way to call ME a terrorist because I refused to swallow what the bureaucratic media feeds me.
lay the crack pipe down back away real slow you are about too OD.

Since: Jan 13

London, KY

#10 Jan 17, 2013
FYI wrote:
<quoted text>lay the crack pipe down back away real slow you are about too OD.
Suppose you were too lazy to watch the video or research rex84, or maybe just too ignorant to think for yourself, so I wont dignify your drug reference with a debate.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#11 Jan 17, 2013
KYJonesy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sIoPjfLnEFYXX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
Watch the entire thing and then try to debate it. Its the Government's Socialist ploy to sway the vote on gun control.
I watched the video in its entirety, and I admit there have been a lot of conflicting reports, leaving many unanswered questions; but I find the thought of government responsibility for such an atrocity unconscionable. However, I agree with you in that I do think the government used the mass shooting to further their agenda of enacting new gun control laws, which upsets me more than a little. And I am equally upset by the fact that Obama used executive privilege AGAIN to pass his new gun laws.

I also read about RX1984. It had been so long since I had watched the Iran-Contra Hearings I had forgotten the statement made by Senator Daniel Inouye, the Hawaiian Dem. Senator who passed away Dec. 17th, 2012.
He referred to the operations that had been revealed as a "secret government". His statement; "[There exists] a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself."

After having made such a powerful statement, it isn't surprising that Senator Inouye ended his career as chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee when the Iran-Contra Hearings ended in just another political compromise after having wasted time and taxpayer money.

Although I am well aware that government corruption exists, I think some people hurt the cause by photo shopping pictures and recording voice-overs on videos; causing all of it to be dismissed as faked information; which is what I think was done in the video you posted. I think it poses some valid questions, but I also think it goes overboard in trying to prove a conspiracy.
unsure

Manchester, KY

#12 Jan 17, 2013
I really don't know what to think. The crisis actors comparisons don't really match, and the little girl on Obama's lap is not Emilie Parker. While she does appear to be wearing the same dress in the picture, the little girl on his lap is the victim's younger sister. There are a lot of unanswered questions. What troubles me the most is how staged and phony that Robbie Parker (Emilie's father) and Kaitlyn Roig's (1st grade teacher that survived) interviews were. The father was laughing and smiling until he thought the cameras were rolling, then he forced himself into a grieving character. The teacher kept wiping dry tears. So strange.
gwertwetr

Albany, KY

#13 Jan 17, 2013
Shame. No douchebag, go take your meds.
KYJonesy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sIoPjfLnEFYXX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
Watch the entire thing and then try to debate it. Its the Government's Socialist ploy to sway the vote on gun control.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#14 Jan 17, 2013
unsure wrote:
I really don't know what to think. The crisis actors comparisons don't really match, and the little girl on Obama's lap is not Emilie Parker. While she does appear to be wearing the same dress in the picture, the little girl on his lap is the victim's younger sister. There are a lot of unanswered questions. What troubles me the most is how staged and phony that Robbie Parker (Emilie's father) and Kaitlyn Roig's (1st grade teacher that survived) interviews were. The father was laughing and smiling until he thought the cameras were rolling, then he forced himself into a grieving character. The teacher kept wiping dry tears. So strange.
Yes, I agree the little girl is obviously the younger sister. And I also agree with you about Robbie Parker. When I first saw his live interview right after the shooting I wondered how he could be so calm and collected. There is definitely something weird about him. There is also something wrong with the man who claimed that a bus driver left children at the end of his driveway and he took them in, talked to them for an hour and then called their parents. I think he fabricated that whole story. And then there's the very strange coroner doing a press conference; he's another weirdo. After seeing some of these interviews I have to wonder if they were all on drugs.
I am beginning to believe that the assault rifle may not have been the weapon used and that's why there has been no surveillance video or picture released yet of the gunman. At any rate, there are definitely still many unanswered questions.

And as a side note, isn't it strange that the release of information has become practically non-existent under an administration that promised, "transparency in government"?
unsure

Manchester, KY

#15 Jan 17, 2013
HilLogic wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I agree the little girl is obviously the younger sister. And I also agree with you about Robbie Parker. When I first saw his live interview right after the shooting I wondered how he could be so calm and collected. There is definitely something weird about him. There is also something wrong with the man who claimed that a bus driver left children at the end of his driveway and he took them in, talked to them for an hour and then called their parents. I think he fabricated that whole story. And then there's the very strange coroner doing a press conference; he's another weirdo. After seeing some of these interviews I have to wonder if they were all on drugs.
I am beginning to believe that the assault rifle may not have been the weapon used and that's why there has been no surveillance video or picture released yet of the gunman. At any rate, there are definitely still many unanswered questions.

And as a side note, isn't it strange that the release of information has become practically non-existent under an administration that promised, "transparency in government"?
Did it even happen? The more you think about it and research the "facts", the more bizarre it seems. I forgot about the coroner. Totally off. I just can't get over the Parker family. Emilie seems to be photoshopped into every family photo. How creepy is this one:

http://i1.someimage.com/wy0p4gV.jpg

Now take a look at this one:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/art...

In the first photo, mom looks way younger, dad looks the same, Emilee looks older, baby (one in middle) looks the same, and the other child on the left looks much younger. I almost feel bad for questioning this tragedy, but so many things do not add up.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#16 Jan 17, 2013
unsure wrote:
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Did it even happen? The more you think about it and research the "facts", the more bizarre it seems. I forgot about the coroner. Totally off. I just can't get over the Parker family. Emilie seems to be photoshopped into every family photo. How creepy is this one:
http://i1.someimage.com/wy0p4gV.jpg
Now take a look at this one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/art...
In the first photo, mom looks way younger, dad looks the same, Emilee looks older, baby (one in middle) looks the same, and the other child on the left looks much younger. I almost feel bad for questioning this tragedy, but so many things do not add up.
No, I don't doubt that it really happened, as much as I wish it were otherwise. As for the photos, the mom and dad lost weight and children change quickly. I compared the pictures side by side and I don't see a problem with them.
Here is a link for an interview with one of the grieving mothers. My heart aches each time I read one of these stories.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/vero...
unsure

Manchester, KY

#17 Jan 18, 2013
HilLogic wrote:
<quoted text>No, I don't doubt that it really happened, as much as I wish it were otherwise. As for the photos, the mom and dad lost weight and children change quickly. I compared the pictures side by side and I don't see a problem with them.
Here is a link for an interview with one of the grieving mothers. My heart aches each time I read one of these stories.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/vero...
It's just terrible. All of it. Instead of gun bans, I think they should be more concerned with school security.
Hmmm

Lexington, KY

#18 Jan 18, 2013
You know. There are a lot of Conflicting reports with sandy hook. Do i believe it was a Hoax. I dont think it was. Do i think there is a lot to the report or truth that is being left out? Yes I do.

Security in schools is a good idea. Look at how Ireali's secure their children. Since they have done this, there has not been any school schootins in Israel.
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#19 Jan 18, 2013
unsure wrote:
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It's just terrible. All of it. Instead of gun bans, I think they should be more concerned with school security.
I agree; school security, adult responsibility, mental health. I think this should be looked at from every angle conceivable and not just banning guns or enacting more stringent gun laws. In looking at existing gun laws in other states I see nothing to indicate the gun laws have been effective in decreasing crime.

As to the issue of school security; the newer schools already have better security than the older ones. At the entry of the newer schools there is a small vestibule area with another set of double doors and an office door off to the side. Anyone can walk through the first set of doors, but the second set of doors remain locked, making it necessary to go through the office. The older schools do not have this feature. Anyone can walk through the front door and have immediate access to the hallways and classrooms. But keep in mind that even the locked doors are glass and can't stop a bullet.

I am glad that the sheriff's office has implemented a new school security policy and will be patrolling the schools. That's a start; but there are still many cracks in the armor, so to speak. And sad to say, but if someone is really intent on doing harm, they will find a way to do it. And we can't give up all our freedoms and live in a prison for the sake of security. So I say, do all that you know to do, then pray and live one moment at a time.- I am speaking to myself here as well so as not to worry about my child at school.:)
HilLogic

Manchester, KY

#20 Jan 18, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
You know. There are a lot of Conflicting reports with sandy hook. Do i believe it was a Hoax. I dont think it was. Do i think there is a lot to the report or truth that is being left out? Yes I do.
Security in schools is a good idea. Look at how Ireali's secure their children. Since they have done this, there has not been any school schootins in Israel.
I agree with your first paragraph, but as to using the same security measures as Israel who's people live every day of their lives hearing gunfire, no I don't agree with that. But it sure is a scary time to have school age children. I'm thinking seriously of homeschooling this fall.

Since: Jan 13

London, KY

#22 Jan 18, 2013
Well I'm glad this finally turned into an intelligent conversation, but eventually some idiot will ruin it again. However.
One thing left out is the fact that there is irrefutable evidence showing 4 facebook memorial pages created on the 10th, 12th, and 13th before the shooting even took place. The girl on Obama's lap is not her younger sister, and the dress is identical. Also, that picture was taken on the same day the family photo was released and Emily was wearing the same dress..???... Also, the first time I heard about the shooting there were 3 gunmen verified. Then there was only 1. Mistakes can be made I guess, but wheres the official retraction? Once again, the facebook memorial pages made 3 and 4 days early bother me more than any of it. Also, the guy that changed his story from a woman bus driver to a man yelling at the kids dropped off in his driveway is a registered member of the Screen Actors Guild.

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