CHRISTIANITY vs MORMONISM
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#25 Jan 21, 2013
Mystery801 wrote:
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Why use a bible that is in a form of English not used today. Do you know why the king James is around? King James wanted to have a bible that was easily understood, thus taking the power of the church, over the people away. In his day, if one wanted to know about anything to do with the bible, he needed a priest. But a bible in plain English off the day, took away that need. You my good sir, just sat their and gave us all a great lesson in why the every day person needs a religion. Needs someone to translate. I think if half the "men of God" used a bible that everybody could understand, they'd have no following at all.
not me i did not take it that way.
i took it in a way that people only pick those 2 words 'judge not' and they dont go any further for the whole explanation.
this was a lesson that says christians are in a position to judge.
if we did not judge the right way, we could say anybody or anybody was okay to come in and visit and be a maid. if we did not judge references, then they would catch our backs turned and steal us blind.
RNV

Rantoul, IL

#26 Feb 23, 2013
Mystery801 wrote:
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I don't have a preacher. But most do, and most I think are just as misdirected as any one else. It's all down to each individual, I think.
Then, you believe in relativism? I do not understand what you are implying when you sate, "It's all down to the individual." How can you say that people are misdirected, but then say it is up to the individual to choose what they believe? Do you have some privilege to dictate what others should and should not believe? Is that not a logical fallacy? I suppose you believe everything is subjective, huh? Therefore, even your claim is untrue, because it is not an objective statement; of course that is just my subjective opinion.
RNV

Rantoul, IL

#28 Feb 23, 2013
lol wrote:
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If you are on here judging mormons, you are going to hell for taking God's job! Get your self righteous ass a new hobby!
If Mormons believe the Bible is the Word of God, and that the Bible was written before the Book of Mormon, then the Book of Mormon should not contradict the Bible. If there is even one contradiction between the two books, then it is logical to conclude that one of the books' is erred. You can then deduce that, since the Bible came first, and is also considered to be objectively true by Mormons, then any revelation received afterward, would have to be judged by the same standards they used to judge the Bible. If that “new” revelation was in violation of the standard by which the Bible was measured, then you can discount it as being inspired by a sovereign God and, thus, it is erred. Therefore, since the Book of Mormon does in fact contradict the Bible, it is my contention that it is not the inspired Word of God. Not only that, but it is heretical. The other alternative Mormons have is to dismiss the Bible, yet this is impractical, because if it were dismissed entirely, from what would the book of Mormon be based? Therefore, I believe Mormonism to be self-defeating in nature. One only needs to compare the Bible to the Book of Mormon, and they will see the Book of Mormons’ teachings differ from the Bibles’ teachings. Therefore, Mormons have faith in a relativistic religion. Although Mormonism contains some degree of truth, it is fundamentally corrupted as a whole, because it contains too many untruths at its core. The Bible is not the Bible, if it is polluted with heretical doctrine. I am going to use a simple analogy to better clarify my point. Imagine you mixed “The Wizard of Oz” & “Titanic” together. You would have a completely different story. Although it would contain bits and pieces from the original movies, you could not call the final product “The Wizard of Oz” or “Titanic”, but, rather, you would have a different film altogether. The same is true with Mormonism; it is not the same as Christianity, but is a different religion entirely, regardless of the similarities.

I have concluded it is easy for you to distastefully insult people with views that differ from your own, however; you, in turn, boldly proclaim your own views. If you ever decide to have a dignified conversation, perhaps people will respond to you with the same degree of dignity.
Holiness

Houston, TX

#29 Feb 23, 2013
The GodlyJudge wrote:
<quoted text>Should we judge others?
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged."(KJV Luke 6:37)
That's what the Bible says. It's very clear, we should not judge others in any way. We should be TOLERANT of everything and anything someone else wants to do -- as long as they are not harming others.
NOT!- That's not right. That is not what the Bible says.
So that means Christians are intolerant bigots.
NO - That also is not right.
Let's take a look at judging and tolerance.
What did Jesus mean when he said, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged"?(KJV Luke 6:37). He said this as a part of teaching about love and forgiveness. He tells us to love everyone, including our enemies, and that we should not judge them. We should forgive them.
First, we need to note that Jesus is talking about our personal relationships with other people. Our one-to-one relationships.
Second, we need read the entire BIble, not just one verse. Note that in the above verse Jesus is talking about loving and forgiving other people. He does not say we should love what they are doing (or saying). In the Bible there is a distinction between people, and their behavior.
The Bible also tells us there are things that we are supposed to hate -- sins.
Sins are behaviours and thoughts that separate us from God.
"--your sins cut you off from God." (NLT)- Isaiah 59:2
"Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, abusers and swindlers--none of these will have a share in the Kingdom of God." (NLT) 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
God hates sin and so we are also to hate sin.
"There are six things the LORD hates--no, seven things he detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord among brothers." (NLT) Proverbs 6:16-19
As Christians we are to love the sinner, but hate the sin.
This means Christians are to be tolerant of others, but intolerant of sin. We are to love other people, and treat all other people with love, but that does not mean that we accept their sinful behavior. On the contrary, we are to detest and hate all sinful behavior and thoughts.
Judging - Page Two: http://www.missiontoamerica.org/christianity/...
Aint that the truth?!!!!!

“Hats Off to God”

Since: Jun 09

3rd Rock

#30 Feb 23, 2013
RNV wrote:
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If Mormons believe the Bible is the Word of God, and that the Bible was written before the Book of Mormon, then the Book of Mormon should not contradict the Bible. If there is even one contradiction between the two books, then it is logical to conclude that one of the books' is erred. You can then deduce that, since the Bible came first, and is also considered to be objectively true by Mormons, then any revelation received afterward, would have to be judged by the same standards they used to judge the Bible. If that “new” revelation was in violation of the standard by which the Bible was measured, then you can discount it as being inspired by a sovereign God and, thus, it is erred. Therefore, since the Book of Mormon does in fact contradict the Bible, it is my contention that it is not the inspired Word of God. Not only that, but it is heretical. The other alternative Mormons have is to dismiss the Bible, yet this is impractical, because if it were dismissed entirely, from what would the book of Mormon be based? Therefore, I believe Mormonism to be self-defeating in nature. One only needs to compare the Bible to the Book of Mormon, and they will see the Book of Mormons’ teachings differ from the Bibles’ teachings. Therefore, Mormons have faith in a relativistic religion. Although Mormonism contains some degree of truth, it is fundamentally corrupted as a whole, because it contains too many untruths at its core. The Bible is not the Bible, if it is polluted with heretical doctrine. I am going to use a simple analogy to better clarify my point. Imagine you mixed “The Wizard of Oz” & “Titanic” together. You would have a completely different story. Although it would contain bits and pieces from the original movies, you could not call the final product “The Wizard of Oz” or “Titanic”, but, rather, you would have a different film altogether. The same is true with Mormonism; it is not the same as Christianity, but is a different religion entirely, regardless of the similarities.
I have concluded it is easy for you to distastefully insult people with views that differ from your own, however; you, in turn, boldly proclaim your own views. If you ever decide to have a dignified conversation, perhaps people will respond to you with the same degree of dignity.
I have challenged people for 17 years now to show me one thing in the Book of Mormon pertaining to the gospel of Jesus Christ that is not in perfect harmony with what the Bible teaches about the gospel of Jesus Christ and if they can, then I will leave the church immediately. I have spent over 50 years studying Christianity and 17 years going through the Mormon faith even the history of the church and Joseph Smith. So give it your best shot, all I ask is honesty.

Since: Jul 10

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#31 Feb 25, 2013
RNV wrote:
<quoted text>Then, you believe in relativism? I do not understand what you are implying when you sate, "It's all down to the individual." How can you say that people are misdirected, but then say it is up to the individual to choose what they believe? Do you have some privilege to dictate what others should and should not believe? Is that not a logical fallacy? I suppose you believe everything is subjective, huh? Therefore, even your claim is untrue, because it is not an objective statement; of course that is just my subjective opinion.
Ok smartie. You got it all figured out, now don't forget to ask your preacher how you should handle the fact that you cannot think for yourself.

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