Disease is blamed on home-grown veggies - Hawaii News

There are 20 comments on the Jan 17, 2009, Honolulu Star-Bulletin story titled Disease is blamed on home-grown veggies - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A second Big Island resident is in a coma with rat lungworm disease, a rare ailment that can cause significant pain and trauma, including paralysis and blindness.

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dont pull you veggies

Kapaa, HI

#1 Jan 17, 2009
grow your own food is the best, this is a very rare case and should discourage no one from growing their own food. was your veggies well
realmerv

Mililani, HI

#2 Jan 17, 2009
People should buy their vegetables on the Big Island since it is a proven fact that eating homegrown vegetables can be dangerous to your health ... examples being the three people in this article.

How can anyone be so dumb as to not avoid homegrown vegetables now that the news is out? Think people! It isn't worth the pain and suffering to eat homegrown vegetables that could kill you. It is like playing Russian Roulette. If you have children, think of how you would feel if one of them ended in the hospital in a coma. Is it really worth the risk?

And if you live in the Puna District of the Big Island and you know of a friend, neighbor or a relative who grows their own vegetables, please do them a favor and tell them about the potential problem. Not everyone reads the papers cover to cover and not everyone reads everything online.
vegie enthusiast

United States

#3 Jan 17, 2009
Also consider that people now put pesticides and weed killers on their lawn or into their soils. All this makes self grown vegies dangerous.
CMK

Kailua, HI

#4 Jan 17, 2009
This is a single, extreme case of this disease. You make your own choices, but homegrown food is a good practice. More food borne illnesses, by far, is caused by store bought food. Conversely, there is an effort to scare people from eating healthy with the mercury in fish scare. There has never been a proven, peer reviewed study or case of someone being killed or even sickened by mercury from fish. Check it out. This is the strangeness of our society, driven by fear.
alice

Ewa Beach, HI

#5 Jan 17, 2009
I leave a slime trail too.
Raw veggies

Ewa Beach, HI

#6 Jan 17, 2009
Star Bulletin article, today 01/17/09:

"A second Big Island resident is in a coma with rat lungworm disease, a rare ailment that can cause significant pain and trauma, including paralysis and blindness."
ann

Maunaloa, HI

#7 Jan 17, 2009
I personally know 20 people here in Puna who have had this disease, so it is not rare. There is no need give up the homegrown produce, just need cook or carefully clean it first. Most parts of the tropics people figured this out long ago. Our relative isolation protected us for a while, but with all the invasive species we import this was bound to happen. Also, slugs do not have larvae, but these slugs are infected with a nematode (which has larvae) that is the parasite that causes this heinous disease.
Coko CoKo

Honolulu, HI

#8 Jan 18, 2009
READ: RARE AILMENT

As the article states, "...rat lungworm disease, a rare ailment that can cause significant pain and trauma..."

If one can save money and grow his/her own vegetables to eat, then please don't let the parasitic worms deter you from gardening. Just wash the vegetables thoroughly.

The next Great Depression is upon us and being self-sufficient is key to surviving the hardships to come. Growing even a little bit of your own food helps in dire economic times.

BTW, slugs and other harmful things can be found on ANY produce whether it is bought from Whole Foods or Safeway. Remember the 2006 E.Coli outbreak on spinach or the 2007 salmonella outbreak for that matter? That wasn't homegrown vegetables. Contaminants aren't biased. People are biased and manipulative.... for profit, not because of some misplaced motherly concern via the faceless, anonymous Internet.
Angiostrongylus

Ewa Beach, HI

#9 Jan 18, 2009
Informative link to data about a very dangerous parasitic disease.
http://www.answers.com/topic/rat-lungworm
chris

Honolulu, HI

#10 Jan 18, 2009
If you're smart, you'll COOK your vegetables.

Washing alone, while better than doing nothing, is like playing russian roulette.
Flabbergasted Fan

Honolulu, HI

#12 Jan 18, 2009
This earlier story ( http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090105_par... ) seems to indicate that two of those afflicted tried to be careful and washed their vegetables with a peroxide rinse. It may be that the larvae is so tiny that they are difficult to see, and require extraordinary care to rinse out. Homegrown would seem to be a good idea, but perhaps the potential danger is not worth the risk.
helco

Honolulu, HI

#13 Jan 19, 2009
I guess you reap what you sow...cleanliness is a necessity...
Grinchie

Petaluma, CA

#14 Jan 19, 2009
We always dunked our veggies in Salt water. Salt and sluglettes don't mix, and they release and wash off.

As for the disease being rare, that may have been true a few years ago, but the invasive slug just appeared recently, and it is a real invader. They crawl all over everything, and they can get quite large too.

Since the vector for the disease is now crawling over several thousand acres in Puna, its pretty easy to imagine that this is no longer a "Rare Disease" like they are calling it.

This is just another in a long line of invaders brought by man, like the Mosquito, The Cane Toad, The Mongoose, The Rat, The Cat, The Pig, The Dog, The Mouse, The Ant (40 Species), The Wasp, The Stinging Nettle Caterpillar, The Coqui. I could go on...

We need to learn how to deal with this situation, and panicking never helped anyone. If anyone who thinks that the sanitized grrens packed in a bag are foolproof, just look back to the E.Coli outbreak from packaged spinach and lettuce we had 2 years ago. They use Chlorine to rince the greens now, and it reacts with the greens and makes toxins. Plus, since they put chlorine in the rinse water, they tend to leave dirty rinse water in the process. They do this with Chicken rinse water too, and tons of chicken were rejected abroad because the U.S. Manufacurers insisted on not having to use clean fresh water to rinse.

I do have to agree, Raw food in the Tropics is risky, but fruits and vegetable when peeled are pretty safe.

Needless to say, this slug invasion is on it's way to becoming an agricultural disaster for farming, yet we here nothing from the HDA.
Leafy

Kaneohe, HI

#15 Jan 19, 2009
chris wrote:
If you're smart, you'll COOK your vegetables. Washing alone, while better than doing nothing, is like playing russian roulette.
Most people don't cook their lettuce.
Shareholder

Kaneohe, HI

#16 Jan 19, 2009
Scary stuff. You grow your own vegetables because you think they are healthier for you but you dont know what else is lurking in the soil that can cause you harm.
Herman

United States

#17 Jan 19, 2009
It is very important that home growers inspect their food before consumption!
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#18 Jan 19, 2009
Nobody ever heard of slug & snail bait? Or are the hippies so concerned about the poor little animals? Or maybe just to cheap to buy it?
Grinchie

Petaluma, CA

#19 Jan 20, 2009
Stumpy wrote:
Nobody ever heard of slug & snail bait? Or are the hippies so concerned about the poor little animals? Or maybe just to cheap to buy it?
Yeah, I've heard of it. Unfortunately, you'd go broke using the stuff. Not to mention that it pollutes ground water supplies, and dogs tend to die after they eat it.

Nice try, but the Hippie remark makes you sound like a half-thinker.
Caydie McCumber

Fremont, CA

#20 Jan 25, 2009
This story is about my brother. Most of the comments that i have read are so selfish. My brother is in a coma, he is beginning to show signs of coming out of it but just last week we were given the choice of letting him live as a vegetable or giving him a lethal injection.
The other woman, Silka, died two nights ago. The disease is not that rare, 6 people are in the hospital in Hilo with it now, and it is VERY painful. The coma stage is rare, only 2% of the people who get the disease fall into a coma.
So the fact that all of you are fighting over what other people should do about their vegetables is insignificant. Eat homegrown vegetables if you choose but know that this could happen to you, help spread the word that it is possible and that people should be very careful.
My brother is a good person, he didn't deserve this, and neither does anyone else. Maybe we should take this time to offer condolences instead assuming that this article is ridiculous.
Grinchie

United States

#21 Jan 26, 2009
Caydie McCumber wrote:
This story is about my brother. Most of the comments that i have read are so selfish. My brother is in a coma, he is beginning to show signs of coming out of it but just last week we were given the choice of letting him live as a vegetable or giving him a lethal injection.
The other woman, Silka, died two nights ago. The disease is not that rare, 6 people are in the hospital in Hilo with it now, and it is VERY painful. The coma stage is rare, only 2% of the people who get the disease fall into a coma.
So the fact that all of you are fighting over what other people should do about their vegetables is insignificant. Eat homegrown vegetables if you choose but know that this could happen to you, help spread the word that it is possible and that people should be very careful.
My brother is a good person, he didn't deserve this, and neither does anyone else. Maybe we should take this time to offer condolences instead assuming that this article is ridiculous.
I first lerned of this problem in 2005 when a woman died due to Rat Lungworm. I agree, it is not that rare, considering that rats are everywhere in Hawaii. You can walk through a guava forest miles from anywhere and see the Guava eaten by rat. Then, in 2006, the Slug arrived and became a serious problem almost overnight.

Most people that have never seen these creature don't have a clue how they can get into and onto anything and everything. It's only a matter of time until someone ingests one, whether it be on their greens or it happens to be crawling on their drinking glass. I endured something that was never diagnosed properly, but the descriptions of the symptons and pain people that had Rat Lungworm have describe lead me to believe that I was very lucky to survive. It took me 5 months to get better, but I still feel much weaker from the experience. I went for totally healthy physical labor one day, to almost 80% disabled the next day. This thing is no joke.

Would I give up on eating homegrown produce? there is no way that I would do that. Healthy food is what allowed me to cure myself, not any drugs or painkillers. BTW, painkillers are totally inneffective against the pain of this disease.

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