Man Who Shot Teen Defends Shooting

Man Who Shot Teen Defends Shooting

There are 38 comments on the NBC 5i Dallas/Fort Worth story from Mar 3, 2008, titled Man Who Shot Teen Defends Shooting. In it, NBC 5i Dallas/Fort Worth reports that:

A Kaufman man who shot a 15-year-old boy in the arm because the boy was near his front window said he feared the boy and his friend would break into his house.

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Ashley

Fort Worth, TX

#21 Mar 7, 2008
This story has me in total shock still and I have read several articles posted here. Those of you saying use the sidewalk i'm not sure if you are aware but Kaufmen is a very rural area and where these kids lived, there may not be sidewalks just dirt roads, however, I am not sure where exactly they were or if there are sidewalks but I dont think that is the answer. Yet, at the same time according to another article the boys were awfully close to the window. If they were looking for this party there wouldn't be a reason for them to be so close to this mans home. It was just a bad chain of events. I don't think he should have shot the boy but at the same time i'm tellin you if i see nothing but a shadow outside my window and I sincerely think my home is going to be robbed i'd shoot too. It was night, the man is old, he probably couldn't see the boy (only the shadows). I'm sure he didn't think oh there is a teenager outside my home I should shoot him. Either way I feel terrible for the boy who lost his mother, I lost my father when I was 18 and I know how much the pain of blaming yourself will cause. I really hope he doesn't blame himself. She should have just called 911 but living out there I understand why she didn't. I hope she Rests in peace and that this family can have some peace soon.
MrCorvette96

Dallas, TX

#22 Mar 7, 2008
I live down the road from the Frosch's and I know the situation. These boys had NO business on his property. This is not the city where you have houses within touching distance this is the country, all these houses have fences around them. If these kids were on my property I would of shot them as well. And besides Mr Frosch wears hearing aids so the boys were doing something loud enough for him to hear. Law or no law if you mess with things that are not yours in our town you will get shot.
Linda S

Palatine, IL

#23 Mar 7, 2008
I believe I would have done exactly the same thing. With the home invasions on the rise and people do not feel safe in thier own homes. I am buying myself a gun for the very reason, of people, breaking into home knowing that someone is there. No matter where we live today we have to worry if we will be safe. There are not enough law enforsement officers out there to protect us. I have had to add an alarm system to my home because of our property being robbed more than 6 times in the last 2 years. I feel that unless you have business with the homeowner you do not need to be on thier property.
Johnny

Dallas, TX

#24 Mar 7, 2008
It is a very sad situation. But kids today dont respect the law nor do they respect peoples property. It is sad the boy got shot. This was an older man who probably was scared for his life. But lets not blame the old man for what happened to this boys mother. It was a DRUNK DRIVER who killed this woman. It wasnt the old mans fault. He was only protecting his house. Everyone is pointing the finger at this old man. He didnt kill anyone.
sheila56

United States

#25 Mar 7, 2008
The bill was pasted that you could shoot someone on your property and it would be ok. People or taking the law in their on hands. Gun Happy.
Diane

United States

#26 Mar 7, 2008
"The wounded teen, Brandon Robinson, has said that he and 16-year-old Devin Nalls were innocently cutting across Frosch's property next door to the Nallses. Robinson has said they were on their way to check out a party down the street."

The one teen is a neighbor of the Mr. Frosch, did the Mr. Frosch not take the time to even determine who he was aiming at and the consequences of his actions. Doesn't he even recognize his neighbor? What is this shoot first ask questions later. Nothing has been said about Mr. Frosch having previous problems with this teen or even with other teens trying to break into his house.
Chris

Lewisville, TX

#27 Mar 7, 2008
For all you Screaming out GUN HAPPY, Stop it! Not what happened. And (Diane) when was the last time you could identify someone in the dark, through a window, with a light behind you???? Of Course he didn't recognize him.(Sheila) the man was not taking the law into his own hands, he was simply defending what he thought was in jeopardy, His and his wifes lives, and his property.
Besides...teach kids right from wrong and to stay off and out of other peoples property...No one will get shot. Who cares how old the parties involved are. As a teen these days, you have to be more mature and have a little intelligence. Or else, you will get left behind. When I was growing up, someone should have shot me, I was in everyone's yards and rummaging through their things with intent to take something from them. My kids are being taught respect, not only for themselves and family, but for other people and their belongings.

No one believes they are in the wrong or that anything will happen to them when they are teens. Thats the problem here. Not that they were shot, just that they were doing wrong
Rekrats

Dallas, TX

#28 Mar 7, 2008
Johnny wrote:
But lets not blame the old man for what happened to this boys mother. It was a DRUNK DRIVER who killed this woman. It wasnt the old mans fault. He was only protecting his house. Everyone is pointing the finger at this old man. He didnt kill anyone.
Thank you for bringing up something everyone seems to be overlooking. This was a very sad, very tragic chain of events. One thing led to another. However, the fact that a homeowner shot a trespasser is not the direct reason a woman died. She would not have been in that place at that time had the boy not been injured, BUT Mr. Frosch didn't get drunk and get behind the wheel of a vehicle. The drunk's irresponsibility was why this woman is dead. Everything else is sad, but rather irrelevant when held up against the loss of the mother's life.
Danyel

Crowley, TX

#29 Mar 7, 2008
I'm a 32 year old. Would I get the same treatment if kids were walking across my lawn and I shot them. I honestly don't think so. Do I think they should prosecute him....I don't know? What is his mental state, does he have dementia or alzheimers (spelling?). Is there a past with these 2 sets of neighbors. There are 2 many unanswered questions. The child did not deserve to be shot being "disrespectful" to someones grass.
Becca R

United States

#30 Mar 7, 2008
1. the boys were on someone else's property

2. the boys were close enough to the window to be seen.

3. the boys were by the window long enough for the man to tell his wife to call 9-1-1 and to get his gun out.

4. the man's gun misfired the first time and it was the 2nd shot that hit the boy - not the first.

5. it was the mother's choice to driver her son to the hospital - as a nurse she should have dialed 9-1-1 or had someone else driving so that her attention was not divided between driving and her gunshot teen.

6. it was a drunk driver who hit the boys mother as she was driving her son to the hospital.

7. it was a tragedy all around. but as many have said here, there is more to the story than we know.

8. let us keep both families in our thoughts and hopes that they will get through this and come out on the path toward healing.
Danyel

Crowley, TX

#31 Mar 10, 2008
Him being able to see the kids is all the more reason he shouldn't have fired his gun unless there was some type of break-in or violent past with these boys. I'm not condoning these boys walking in people yards but we as adults need to think a little clearer before acting out. Not all teenagers are out to rob and kill you.
Jimmy Berryhill

Belton, TX

#32 Mar 10, 2008
Kamber wrote:
WOW.. So, now everyone will use "deadly force" if I am walking across someone elses lawn. Granted, I could use the sidewalk but I never know if I want to take a shortcut, have an emergency, or just plain want to upset an oldman. However, I do hope and pray that this man does not get away with shooting a kid based on the fact that he thinks "they kids were going to rob me". Not all kids are out to get you.
Dont come through my yard! I believe this guy is justified in the shooting. It is sad that it has come to this point but you really cannot trust anyone now adays.
Jimmy Berryhill

Belton, TX

#33 Mar 10, 2008
You know what is confusing. People say these were just kids. However if they had killed the old man they would be tried as adults. So in a criminal scenerio, TRESPASSING they are not kids they are adults. When I was a teen and missed my curfew I called home and said I when I would be there even though my parents where asleep. Not because I was a good kid but so that my Dad didnt shoot me sneaking back in. Lets revers this story. The two boys are home alone and the old man is outside the window cutting through the yard or what ever what would all you soccer moms think about him. He would have been arrested and you would be posting that he was up to no good. If you dont want your kids shot keep them out of peoples yard.
Danyel

Crowley, TX

#34 Mar 10, 2008
Jimmy Berryhill wrote:
You know what is confusing. People say these were just kids. However if they had killed the old man they would be tried as adults. So in a criminal scenerio, TRESPASSING they are not kids they are adults. When I was a teen and missed my curfew I called home and said I when I would be there even though my parents where asleep. Not because I was a good kid but so that my Dad didnt shoot me sneaking back in. Lets revers this story. The two boys are home alone and the old man is outside the window cutting through the yard or what ever what would all you soccer moms think about him. He would have been arrested and you would be posting that he was up to no good. If you dont want your kids shot keep them out of peoples yard.
They weren't peeking in this person window. I have had several people walk across my lawn whether it be chasing a dog or solicting or plain ole " I don't feel like walking around" I would watch the person for a while and make sure they kept walking but just to shoot out of the window or door at kids. Come on now....that is absolutely insane. I am all for protecting my property, but I am not going to shoot a child or an adult for walking in grass. You obviously don't need a gun and neither did your Dad if you both are that trigger happy.
Jimmy Berryhill

Belton, TX

#35 Mar 10, 2008
Danyel wrote:
<quoted text> They weren't peeking in this person window. I have had several people walk across my lawn whether it be chasing a dog or solicting or plain ole " I don't feel like walking around" I would watch the person for a while and make sure they kept walking but just to shoot out of the window or door at kids. Come on now....that is absolutely insane. I am all for protecting my property, but I am not going to shoot a child or an adult for walking in grass. You obviously don't need a gun and neither did your Dad if you both are that trigger happy.
Well I am not trigger happy. If i did have to shoot someone I will feel horrible and remorse for the tresspasser, criminal or whoever it was. People who own guns and protect there homes are not automaticcly happy when they get to shoot someone, get real. But on the other hand I would do it because I love my family and I will not let their saftey be comprimised in any way. Now I keep my son safe by not letting him rome the nieghborhood at night and have taught him to respect other peoples property. Now these kids it seems where if nothing else loitering or else the old man would not have been able to go get a gun and come back to the window and shoot, unless of course he already had his gun on him. People live scared now days. Someone came on my property and stole my sons dirt bike. If I had caught the bastard I would have shot him/her. And before anyone says a dirtbike is worth killing over, let me tell you its not worth the risk of dying over either.
Heather H

United States

#36 Mar 11, 2008
Okay, and then if, godforbid, something were to have happened to the man, then what? He was 74 years old there is no way he could of faught off two teens if the were to have gone into his house or tried something stupid. I feel bad for the boy that lost his mother but it's in no shape of form Mr. Frosch's fault. The boys just simply thought they were to good to listen to an elder.
Elizabeth

Dallas, TX

#38 Mar 11, 2008
THAT MAN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN A GUN! WHAT'S NEXT? IS HE GOING TO SHOOT THE NEXT PERSON THAT WALKS IN FRONT OF HIS HOME?
kcb

Humble, TX

#39 Mar 15, 2008
"The wounded teen, Brandon Robinson, has said that he and 16-year-old Devin Nalls were innocently cutting across Frosch's property next door to the Nallses."
This is baloney! There is no reason for the boys to have been as far from public right of way as they were. The yards are not next to each other, but separated by fenced pasture. The front of the location is fenced along the highway. These boys were trespassing at 10:30 pm. They were within a few feet of entry into the house if that was their intent. There is nothing innocent about where they were at.

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