Going vegan for your heart

Going vegan for your heart

There are 14 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 22, 2007, titled Going vegan for your heart. In it, Newsday reports that:

Driving from Chinatown to Katonah with roast pork for friends, I heard Dr. Caldwell B. Esselstyn, Jr.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Mark

Waldo, OH

#1 Jul 23, 2007
You've inadvertantly mis-represented Essy's work.

1) you avoid nuts and avocado IF you already have heart disease

2) his 20 year peer-reviewed research, and that of Dr. Dean Ornish, are the ONLY methods that have every reversed heart disease

3)there is documented concern about animal proteins (in milk as well) being a trigger for cancer (Dr. Campbell, "The China Study")

Calling his plan strict is ironic. As Ornish has said, what's more radical, cutting open a person's chest for implant a stent or focusing on healthy foods and diet?

Start thinking of all the wonderful food you can have and don't fret about not eating dead animal flesh. It works. I've been following his recommendations for five months and feel fantastic.
derek goodwin

Longmeadow, MA

#2 Jul 23, 2007
paula, i think you may have not given veganism enough of a chance. you acheived so much in one week but have missed out on the abundance of new dietary abundance that awaits you as a vegan. every one i know who has made the switch has found they eat a far more varied and interesting diet than they did as omnivores. it just take a little more time to break out of the mindset of a cultural omnivore into a more free-thinking way of experiencing food.

i have been vegan for 12 years and every day that i put some conscious and compassionate thought into my meals my body feels amazing and i get some real meditative peace out of eating this way. more and more i have gone towards raw and organic meals, and the health benefits are really unbelievable. We have gotten used to most people living with health issues of some sort, and believing pills and supplements are our only defense. but truly our diet is the biggest cause of or health or sickness.

i just have to add that health is only 1/3 of the diet equation, eating low on the food chain also is exponentially more healthy for the planet and of course the animals and labor exploited to support eating high amounts of animal protein.
Laura Beth

United States

#3 Jul 24, 2007
After seeing the utter brutality and grotesque treatment of animals, even if meat were healthy, which it is not, I would never eat another bite. The abject and savage use of force to make animals live and die in such disgusting ways, in my view, is a measure of the values and morals of our culture. We have a severe problem with violence in our human societies, rooted in reducing other living beings to commodities and products, and WE have become the same. Our own value to the current form of government, is in our "productivity." When the animals, female espcially, are not productive enough, do not give enough milk, eggs, whatever they are enslaved and exploited for, they are brutally slaughtered. When humans are not productive enough, they are at the whim of an economic system that causes them to loose their homes, ability to buy needed goods, and care properly for their families. In Dr. Will Tuttles book, The World Peace Diet, we see the parallels between our treatment of animals and the social condition of humanity today.
There are many books written about how eating animals devastates health and the environment. Too bad the media chooses to promote Harry Potter instead.
One look at the truth on www.animalsvoice.com or www.petatv.com or www.jewishveg.com at the kosher video, is enough for me to continue the diet of peace, health, spiritual evolution, and mercy. I know see that everything humans do to animals eventually becomes part of what they do to each other....Torture, obesity, rape, family structures falling apart, environmental toxicity, infertility....ALL manifestations of the karmic result of our abhorrent and grotesque treatment of sentient beings humans reduced to property, chattle.
Veganism, in my estimation, IS the essence of ALL major religious teachings ignored today.
Veganman

Bethpage, NY

#4 Jul 24, 2007
Vegans eat only plant based diets, that is, no animal products. In the article is says "Nuts, avocados, oil: Taboo. I gasped, but what about olive oil? Forbidden." I don't understand, these are not animal products. Can you straighten this out for me. Did he say not to eat nuts, avocados and oil? and why?
psycho

Jersey City, NJ

#5 Jul 24, 2007
Laura Beth wrote:
After seeing the utter brutality and grotesque treatment of animals, even if meat were healthy, which it is not, I would never eat another bite. The abject and savage use of force to make animals live and die in such disgusting ways, in my view, is a measure of the values and morals of our culture. We have a severe problem with violence in our human societies, rooted in reducing other living beings to commodities and products, and WE have become the same. Our own value to the current form of government, is in our "productivity." When the animals, female espcially, are not productive enough, do not give enough milk, eggs, whatever they are enslaved and exploited for, they are brutally slaughtered. When humans are not productive enough, they are at the whim of an economic system that causes them to loose their homes, ability to buy needed goods, and care properly for their families. In Dr. Will Tuttles book, The World Peace Diet, we see the parallels between our treatment of animals and the social condition of humanity today.
There are many books written about how eating animals devastates health and the environment. Too bad the media chooses to promote Harry Potter instead.
One look at the truth on www.animalsvoice.com or www.petatv.com or www.jewishveg.com at the kosher video, is enough for me to continue the diet of peace, health, spiritual evolution, and mercy. I know see that everything humans do to animals eventually becomes part of what they do to each other....Torture, obesity, rape, family structures falling apart, environmental toxicity, infertility....ALL manifestations of the karmic result of our abhorrent and grotesque treatment of sentient beings humans reduced to property, chattle.
Veganism, in my estimation, IS the essence of ALL major religious teachings ignored today.
Torture, rape, family structures falling apart all over meat! You forgot abortion, or doesn't that constitute killing and torture and family destruction?
Chris

United States

#6 Jul 24, 2007
Any diet that does not include meat and/or dairy products is not based on science. It is wishful thinking that if we just ate certain foods or avoided others, we will find the latest version of the "fountain of youth". People should get on with their lives and find something truly meaningful to focus on.
Laura Beth

United States

#7 Jul 24, 2007
Abortion is also part of the abhorrent disrespect for life. When women and men are sexaully active without wanting to be together to have a family, unwanted pregnancies happen. Sexuality is affected by what humans eat. If you don't agree, read about early puberty from the hormones , both added and NATURAL, in ALL animal based foods. Also read the book, God's Nutritionist, Pearls of Wisdom, by Ellen G. White. t has 500 quotes from propehtic White about the behaviors associated with eating lustful, rich foods that excite the lowest passions in humans. We are what we eat. Abortion is another manifestaion of the human utter disrespect for ones own health, body, and young. If humans stopped eating chicken abortions(eggs) and stopped stealing babies away from mother animals after they carried them to term to fatten and consume them, our own society might better respect itself.
Laura Beth

United States

#8 Jul 24, 2007
I think he means limiting all fats, especially from meat and dairy.
Laura Beth

United States

#9 Jul 24, 2007
You are profoundly mistaken. In fact, now that the meat and diary diet has expanded to cultures like China and India that once largely subsitied on plant foods, the comparison has never been easier/ When meat and dairy are increased, so is heart disease, cancers of the breast, prostate, colon, osteoporosis, diabetes, and more. Tell me the pharmaceutical giants and medical device manufacturers are catering to vegans! HARDLY...Science! You must be joking. Food is not science. Food is nature's gift to every species on this earth. Humans are dying and taking the planet along because our "food" is as perverse and violent as what it does to the animals, our organs, and the forests being leveled to graze cows. Science indeed.
Eric Precott

Rowland Heights, CA

#10 Jul 25, 2007
I'm bummed that so many are getting this message and not quite making it stick, but encouraged that we're seeing an overall shift toward plant-based eating. If 90% of Americans ate a 90% plant-based diet, we would vastly change the healthcare system in our country, reduce the number of needlessly killed animals dramatically, and have an awesome impact on our contributions to environmental degradation.
David

Israel

#11 Jul 28, 2007
If Paula would read what the effects of meat eating are on the environment and the lack of humane treatment of the animals that will be butchered for meat, she might have had an easier time hanging in there.
Science and diet

United States

#12 Jul 28, 2007
Chris wrote:
Any diet that does not include meat and/or dairy products is not based on science.
This is simply false. The scientific information about the benefits of a vegan diet and the
hazards of a meat and dairy diet are well known in the medical and scientific community. And a vegan diet is heartily recommended by the The American Dietetic Association who says at their website:

"Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence. Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates,fiber,magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer."

And Dr. Frank Oski, former director of pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University said:

"There is no reason to drink cow's milk at any time in your life. It was designed for calves, it was not designed for humans, and we should all stop drinking it today, this afternoon."

Baby expert Dr. Spock agreed, saying, "[T]here was a time when cow's milk was considered very desirable. But research, along with clinical experience, has
forced doctors and nutritionists to rethink this recommendation."

And finally, The World Health Organization (WHO) says that western nations that consume a lot of meat/dairy have the highest levels of osteoporosis, which is caused by eating a lot of animal protein. It says,
"...hip fracture rates are higher in developed countries where calcium intake is high than in developing countries where calcium intake is low...fracture risk has recently been shown to be a function of protein intake in North American women."

I don't think you can get more scientific than that. If Chris wants to argue with the American Dietetic Association, the head of pediatrics at Johns-Hopkins, and the WHO, he's going to have to provide something more scientific than just his uninformed opinion.
froggyTheFrog

Bensalem, PA

#13 Jul 29, 2007
Please realize that whether or not avocados, nuts, and olive oil are in this diet, they are perfectly vegan. They neither come from animals and they're not tested on animals before being sold as a product. Therefore, they are vegan.

This diet may be about avoiding fats, but that is not necessarily true of veganism. Thanks.
Lettuce Lover

Troy, MI

#14 Jul 30, 2007
Just an FYI: The beginning of your article leads readers to believe vegans do not eat olive oil, nuts or avocados, which is not the case. Most vegans incorporate healthy (animal product-free) fats and oils in their diets. Maybe your guru had a different reason for completely eliminating oils. In any case, good luck with healthier eating!

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