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Reading that sex predator Matthew Cargill got sentenced to a measly one year in jail made me vomit.
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willie

Traverse City, MI

#1 May 16, 2009
"Airport security hassle hurts Hawaii tourism"

I am so glad all the experts out there have a reason tourism is down. Michaels idea that TSA is holding back tourists has to take the cake.

Hey Mike, the economy is in the toilet, no one can afford to come to Hawaii like they could a couple years ago. You could get rid of TSA entirely and the numbers would NOT change. I would go so far as to say you could probably offer free plane tickets and barely see an uptick in arrival numbers.
Mac

San Benito, TX

#2 May 16, 2009
When did LCDR Stuart retire, 1920? I don't care much about Watada, but attempting to relieve Bush's presidency of guilt (did Mr. Stuart say unsubstantiated?) because of Watada's stance is laughable. Ms. Oi didn't "link" the two, she compared them. And, while reading Commander Stuart's letter, I found it difficult to keep from reading faster and faster, louder and louder, kind of like a tantrum. Bush and his cronies are despicable. Watada is paying his price, why not them, Commander Patriot?

Since: Feb 08

Seattle, WA

#3 May 16, 2009
Mac wrote:
When did LCDR Stuart retire, 1920? I don't care much about Watada, but attempting to relieve Bush's presidency of guilt (did Mr. Stuart say unsubstantiated?) because of Watada's stance is laughable. Ms. Oi didn't "link" the two, she compared them. And, while reading Commander Stuart's letter, I found it difficult to keep from reading faster and faster, louder and louder, kind of like a tantrum. Bush and his cronies are despicable. Watada is paying his price, why not them, Commander Patriot?
Another clueless Kool-aid drinker!
Dr Frank Hoffman PhD

Aiea, HI

#4 May 16, 2009
"Terrible message sent on predator"

by Eugene Cordero
Pearl City

No matter what type of jail term these nut cases will get the real fact is there is no room at the Inn.

They can say he will get 30 years if that will make you feel better, but in reality he will be home very fast.

I bet even in this case he will be out before three months are up.

It's a fact of life. There is no money and there is no room at the Inn.
Pat

Ewa Beach, HI

#5 May 16, 2009
Mr.Stuart, the "treason" that you write about, many citizens consider to have been the acts of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, etc. For their acts circumvented the Constitution of the United States, International Law, and the Geneva Convention all of which acts have caused the murder of thousands, perhaps millions, of people and the violation of civil rights. My thanks and gratitude to Lt. Ehren Watada for saying "NO", and to the other military personnel who have a conscious and say "NO" to more violence.
Keith Haugen

AOL

#6 May 16, 2009
Aloha:

There will always be some people, yes, even military retirees, who believe U.S. Army Lt. Ehren Watada is wrong for not blindly following orders as they were taught to do, and who believe that George W. Bush and his group could do no wrong because he was the President and therefore above the law. Most of them are now followers of Rush Limbaugh.

And there are many of us, patriotic American veterans who believe that Watada was right to stand up and be counted. He continues to suffer because of his decision, but he probably sleeps well with a clear conscience. Remember, he volunteered to go to Afghanistan to fight terrorists instead of being a part of the Bush Iraq War.

There are still some who think Ehren should have participated in the killing of innocent Iraqis, and other crimes of the Bush administration, just because he was in uniform and not supposed to think or "reason why."

Remember all of the Nazi soldiers, prison guards and others who blindly followed orders of their commander-in-chief?

Well, it's different in our time and in our country.

Lt. Watada was right and still is. And, if you want to compare him to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al, they were wrong and still are.

Our Constitution, International Law, the Geneva Conventions, civil rights, all are too important to be ignored and disobeyed, even if you are ordered to do so.

Thank you, Pat of Kailua, for your letter.

Me ka pono,

Keith Haugen, a veteran
Nu`uanu
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#7 May 16, 2009
willie wrote:
"Airport security hassle hurts Hawaii tourism"
I am so glad all the experts out there have a reason tourism is down. Michaels idea that TSA is holding back tourists has to take the cake.
Hey Mike, the economy is in the toilet, no one can afford to come to Hawaii like they could a couple years ago. You could get rid of TSA entirely and the numbers would NOT change. I would go so far as to say you could probably offer free plane tickets and barely see an uptick in arrival numbers.
Of all the exceedingly stupid letters you've written, this one is by far one of your worst. Getting rid of the TSA wouldn't change anything? Getting rid of the TSA and Homeland Security would improve air travel 1000%. Thanks to that wasteful crap I have sworn off air travel to ANYWHERE unless it is absolutely necessary. The first time I traveled to Hawaii in 1998(pre-9/11) I waited less than 15 minutes to board my plane to Honolulu. 5 years later I waited more than 4 1/2 HOURS before I boarded my plane. Just to fly to Los Angeles is a 3 1/2 hour long haul in the terminal. Get rid of the TSA. They are nothing but a total waste of time and a drain on the economy. Thanks to the TSA and Homeland Insecurity it is doubtful I will ever return to Hawaii.
Dr Frank Hoffman PhD

Aiea, HI

#8 May 16, 2009
Keith Haugen wrote:
Aloha:
There will always be some people, yes, even military retirees, who believe U.S. Army Lt. Ehren Watada is wrong for not blindly following orders as they were taught to do, and who believe that George W. Bush and his group could do no wrong because he was the President and therefore above the law. Most of them are now followers of Rush Limbaugh.
And there are many of us, patriotic American veterans who believe that Watada was right to stand up and be counted. He continues to suffer because of his decision, but he probably sleeps well with a clear conscience. Remember, he volunteered to go to Afghanistan to fight terrorists instead of being a part of the Bush Iraq War.
There are still some who think Ehren should have participated in the killing of innocent Iraqis, and other crimes of the Bush administration, just because he was in uniform and not supposed to think or "reason why."
Remember all of the Nazi soldiers, prison guards and others who blindly followed orders of their commander-in-chief?
Well, it's different in our time and in our country.
Lt. Watada was right and still is. And, if you want to compare him to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al, they were wrong and still are.
Our Constitution, International Law, the Geneva Conventions, civil rights, all are too important to be ignored and disobeyed, even if you are ordered to do so.
Thank you, Pat of Kailua, for your letter.
Me ka pono,
Keith Haugen, a veteran
Nu`uanu
Dead Right !
informed

Tucson, AZ

#9 May 16, 2009
Pat wrote:
Mr.Stuart, the "treason" that you write about, many citizens consider to have been the acts of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, etc. For their acts circumvented the Constitution of the United States, International Law, and the Geneva Convention all of which acts have caused the murder of thousands, perhaps millions, of people and the violation of civil rights. My thanks and gratitude to Lt. Ehren Watada for saying "NO", and to the other military personnel who have a conscious and say "NO" to more violence.
The point is THEY shouldn't have joined! Period. When you VOLUNTEER to defend the US, you do not get to CHOOSE when and where you will do it. Why do you think the Army strayed away from their Army of One slogan??? B/c it ticked off a lot of honorable (those you won't thank...not that they want your thanks, just some gratitude for your rights being protected) serving Army guys who knew it is NOT the individual BUT the TEAM. It took a lot of work to change, but you will see that slogan didn't last long at all. Hence, he ABANDONED his team he trained to lead and left them to deploy themselves WITHOUT the "leader" they rained with. Perhaps you do not fully understand how much prep goes into a deployment so you really have no clue how detrimental his decision was. Who knows, but who cares...he IS NOT honorable. He knew if called he would have to go.....WHEREVER he was sent. I see you also conveniently forgot Congress, Colin Powell, and others on your list of war crimes charges. Maybe your argument would find better ground if all who approved the Iraq war were brought up on charges. I for one, think it's ridiculous and you lose so much ground when you cherry pick who should be charged and who shouldn't....by your standards of course.
informed

Tucson, AZ

#10 May 16, 2009
Alan Cummings wrote:
<quoted text>
Of all the exceedingly stupid letters you've written, this one is by far one of your worst. Getting rid of the TSA wouldn't change anything? Getting rid of the TSA and Homeland Security would improve air travel 1000%. Thanks to that wasteful **** I have sworn off air travel to ANYWHERE unless it is absolutely necessary. The first time I traveled to Hawaii in 1998(pre-9/11) I waited less than 15 minutes to board my plane to Honolulu. 5 years later I waited more than 4 1/2 HOURS before I boarded my plane. Just to fly to Los Angeles is a 3 1/2 hour long haul in the terminal. Get rid of the TSA. They are nothing but a total waste of time and a drain on the economy. Thanks to the TSA and Homeland Insecurity it is doubtful I will ever return to Hawaii.
Alan, you cannot please everyone. What if we were hit again? Who would be blamed?

Since: Feb 08

Philadelphia, PA

#11 May 16, 2009
Keith Haugen wrote:
Aloha:
There will always be some people, yes, even military retirees, who believe U.S. Army Lt. Ehren Watada is wrong for not blindly following orders as they were taught to do, and who believe that George W. Bush and his group could do no wrong because he was the President and therefore above the law. Most of them are now followers of Rush Limbaugh.
And there are many of us, patriotic American veterans who believe that Watada was right to stand up and be counted. He continues to suffer because of his decision, but he probably sleeps well with a clear conscience. Remember, he volunteered to go to Afghanistan to fight terrorists instead of being a part of the Bush Iraq War.
There are still some who think Ehren should have participated in the killing of innocent Iraqis, and other crimes of the Bush administration, just because he was in uniform and not supposed to think or "reason why."
Remember all of the Nazi soldiers, prison guards and others who blindly followed orders of their commander-in-chief?
Well, it's different in our time and in our country.
Lt. Watada was right and still is. And, if you want to compare him to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al, they were wrong and still are.
Our Constitution, International Law, the Geneva Conventions, civil rights, all are too important to be ignored and disobeyed, even if you are ordered to do so.
Thank you, Pat of Kailua, for your letter.
Me ka pono,
Keith Haugen, a veteran
Nu`uanu
Just great, another i@d%i!o*t who compares our military as being the same as the Nazis! Thank the military for giving everyone the right of freedom of speech. The Nazis would have shot you for your stupidity and the betterment of the "Master Race".
Flexo

Mc Lean, VA

#12 May 16, 2009
Keith Haugen wrote:
Aloha:
There will always be some people, yes, even military retirees, who believe U.S. Army Lt. Ehren Watada is wrong for not blindly following orders as they were taught to do, and who believe that George W. Bush and his group could do no wrong because he was the President and therefore above the law. Most of them are now followers of Rush Limbaugh.
And there are many of us, patriotic American veterans who believe that Watada was right to stand up and be counted. He continues to suffer because of his decision, but he probably sleeps well with a clear conscience. Remember, he volunteered to go to Afghanistan to fight terrorists instead of being a part of the Bush Iraq War.
There are still some who think Ehren should have participated in the killing of innocent Iraqis, and other crimes of the Bush administration, just because he was in uniform and not supposed to think or "reason why."
Remember all of the Nazi soldiers, prison guards and others who blindly followed orders of their commander-in-chief?
Well, it's different in our time and in our country.
Lt. Watada was right and still is. And, if you want to compare him to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al, they were wrong and still are.
Our Constitution, International Law, the Geneva Conventions, civil rights, all are too important to be ignored and disobeyed, even if you are ordered to do so.
Thank you, Pat of Kailua, for your letter.
Me ka pono,
Keith Haugen, a veteran
Nu`uanu
Disagree. While I have no respect for Bush and his actions, the subject is Watada. He took an oath. It's not up to him to decide which orders he will obey and which he won't. The rest of the soldiers went and did their duty and were not accused of being war criminals. Your attempt to link this instance with the crimes committed by the Nazi's in WWII is untenable.
I seldom agree with Stuart, and don't totally agree with him in this case, but his comments about Watada are dead on.

Since: Feb 08

Santa Maria, CA

#13 May 16, 2009
Dr Frank Hoffman PhD wrote:
<quoted text>
Dead Right !
Just goes to show just because one has a Phd. doesn't mean they have common sense!
alice

Los Altos, CA

#14 May 16, 2009
Watada is a genuine folk hero.
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#15 May 16, 2009
informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Alan, you cannot please everyone. What if we were hit again? Who would be blamed?
Yeah, and there's a chance that George W. Bush will be elected president of Mensa also. In other words, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!! I seem to remember that it was eight years before the SECOND attack on the WTC, and we didn't need the TSA and Homeland Security then.
dewdalohajoey

United States

#16 May 16, 2009
Alan is a drama queen, no one takes him seriously.
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#17 May 16, 2009
informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Alan, you cannot please everyone. What if we were hit again? Who would be blamed?
You cannot please everyone? I'll lay odds that at least 60% of the country despises the TSA and the waste of time and money that they are asscociated with. The TSA and Homeland Insecurity have ruined air travel in this country.

p.s. If Homeland Security really wants to be useful, how about checking over the 95% of the cargo that isn't even looked at that comes into our ports.
old country gal in Kailua

Kaneohe, HI

#18 May 16, 2009
Pat wrote:
Mr.Stuart, the "treason" that you write about, many citizens consider to have been the acts of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, etc. For their acts circumvented the Constitution of the United States, International Law, and the Geneva Convention all of which acts have caused the murder of thousands, perhaps millions, of people and the violation of civil rights. My thanks and gratitude to Lt. Ehren Watada for saying "NO", and to the other military personnel who have a conscious and say "NO" to more violence.
Thanks, Pat.
Dr Frank Hoffman PhD

San Francisco, CA

#19 May 16, 2009
alice wrote:
Watada is a genuine folk hero.
Interesting!

Folk hero is derived from a Germanic noun "fulka" meaning "people" or "army" (i.e. a crowd as opposed to "a people" in a more abstract sense of clan or tribe). The English word folk has cognates in most of the other Germanic languages. Folk may be a Germanic root that is unique to the Germanic languages. although Latin vulgus, "the common people", has been suggested as a possible cognate.

So it all depends on your preception I guess?
So What

Waipahu, HI

#20 May 16, 2009
Alan Cummings wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot please everyone? I'll lay odds that at least 60% of the country despises the TSA and the waste of time and money that they are asscociated with. The TSA and Homeland Insecurity have ruined air travel in this country.
p.s. If Homeland Security really wants to be useful, how about checking over the 95% of the cargo that isn't even looked at that comes into our ports.
And I'll lay odds that 90% of the nation doesn't even fly enough to even give two shakes about the TSA, let alone have a quantifiable opinion--you for example.

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