Council lets dogs walk path on Kauai

Council lets dogs walk path on Kauai

There are 38 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 29, 2008, titled Council lets dogs walk path on Kauai. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

LIHUE The Kauai County Council passed a bill Wednesday to allow dogs on a multiuse coastal path in Kapaa.

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papamo

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Aug 29, 2008
Have you ever spoken to Ms. Iseri or Mr. Rapozo in person? Or are you listening to second hand info. By the way, I'm not part of sovereignty, just another local haole.
papamo

Los Angeles, CA

#22 Aug 29, 2008
The previous comment was for Mr. Morden.
WestKauai

Honolulu, HI

#23 Aug 29, 2008
No Papamo, Mr. Morden was absolutely right. He clearly stated the meaningful issues that should be addressed by the Council rather than wasting time on issues like dogs on the path...
Brown Bear

Honolulu, HI

#24 Aug 29, 2008
Nothing to do with this story but it is related to Kauai. My daughter asked,'How come they let strangers in on the cruise ships but not locals on the Superferry?"
I replied that the 'protesters' get water on their brains from too much surfing that they rather attack locals visiting relatives on Kauai.
Dog Manapua

Honolulu, HI

#25 Aug 29, 2008
If the Superferry was running to Kauai I would take my hibachi there and visit the dog path.

Of course I can still go by plane but I cannot bring my favorite hibachi with me.
Miguel

Honolulu, HI

#26 Aug 29, 2008
Alice...people on the northshore of Kaua'i never leave the northshore except to register their car once a year. Keep Costco, WalMart, KMart, Sears, Macy's and Home Depot in Lihu'e. Do you think Ben Stiller and Pierce Brosnan go in to Kapa'a Town?
Miguel
Miguel

Honolulu, HI

#27 Aug 29, 2008
If humans are pulled around by a leash by their dog and they feed the dog whenever he wants fed and after he craps they clean up his mess and wipe his butt and then bring the dog inside to wipe his wet faces on the carpet or sofa or bedspread...then if an alien saw this for the first time he would think that dogs rule the Earth not humans...right?
Miguel
Miguel

Honolulu, HI

#28 Aug 29, 2008
What other animals disregard their own bowel movements besides dogs and pigs? At least cats are self-cleaning and bury their bowel movements.
Miguel
Givemeabreak

Honolulu, HI

#29 Aug 29, 2008
This is a meaningful issue. Rapozo and Iseri were apposed to allowing animals on the pathway because of serious, not petty liability issues. They expressed serious concerns and the other council members didn't buy into it. So, what happens now if someone gets attacked by a dog sues the county for millions - is it a meaningful issue now? Rapozo would make a wonderful Mayor. He attacked a not-so-popular issue, irregardless of the votes he won't get from dog owners. He did what he felt was right as apposed to what was popular.
Mainland Haole

Franklin, WI

#30 Aug 29, 2008
Wiggs: It's not a "bike" path; it's a "multi-use" path. And besides, dogs are people, too!

Since: Jul 08

PDX/HNL

#31 Aug 29, 2008
There are muggers, there are rapists, there are skateboarders and bicyclists that will hit you by accident, there are bums, there are cons, there are pedophiles, there are cats with fleas, rats with teeth, roaches that fly....and then there are dogs.

Are you going to ban all of them for fear of being sued?
mokebla

United States

#32 Aug 29, 2008
Manong Miguel, you couldn't get me to live in Hawaii, although I was born and raised there and a native Hawaiian. This a'ama made it out of the can and never looked back. People don't think outside of the box and the state is always going backwards. My dollar goes far here in Oregon and we don't pay sales tax. The crab is better here and the salmon is fresh not salted. My home is half the price here and I get more respect for being a Hawaiian in Oregon, then I do in my own land. I'm retired now and got all the comfort of Hawaii here in Oregon except the beaches where I can't go diving cause the water is never clean. The whole state is going to the dogs, you see it in the paper everday. They treat the dogs better then the Hawaiian in Hawaii. Last I check dogs are still part of the food chain. Do I eat it? Yes I do, in Hawaii growing up with all my flip friends, in Mexico, Veitnam and Hong Kong. You should try it you might like it!
The Dude

Honolulu, HI

#33 Aug 30, 2008
Well can I now ride my bike in the dog park by the Humane Society?? I do not think so, the dog people will get their panties in bunch something fierce.

While I rarely agree with Mel or Shayleene, and do not agree their resoaning here, they are right, " THE DOGS SHOULD NOT BE ON THE PATH." It is not the dogs fault, dogs will be well "dogs,"it is their owners fault. Many owners will not: pick up after their dogs, will not keep their dogs on the 6ft leash, or control their dogs as people walk, jog, or ride bicycles past the dogs.

Also, what moron came up with the 6 ft leash rule in the first place?? A dog on bike path should have a 1 ft leash so it stays right next to their master. They should not be able to stray into oncoming people. Six feet, stupid idea, but typical for Kauai politics.
The Dude

Honolulu, HI

#34 Aug 30, 2008
"Dogs are people too, " Hello McFly, dogs are dogs they sniff each others butts to say hello and lick their crotches. While you might partake of these activities, the rest of us do not, and WE ARE PEOPLE!
Mainland Haole wrote:
Wiggs: It's not a "bike" path; it's a "multi-use" path. And besides, dogs are people, too!
Mr Morden

San Francisco, CA

#35 Aug 31, 2008
papamo wrote:
Have you ever spoken to Ms. Iseri or Mr. Rapozo in person? Or are you listening to second hand info.
I have spoken to Mr. Rapozo and I attended one of the council sessions to support a friend speaking in support of the issue, a meeting at which this issue was hotly debated. I also watched some of the other council sessions on Hoike (the local government affairs channel) pertaining to this issue. So my information is not secondhand.
To be fair, I found one of their arguments against dogs on this coastal path to be a valid concern (the liability issue). Tim Bynum, as mentioned in the article, points out that no one has ever sued the county over a dog bite. Would there not be ways to mitigate this concern, perhaps by posting signs along the affected portion of the coastal path warning users that use is at their own risk?
As you can tell from my previous post, I have some issues with both Iseri and Rapozo. I find them both anatagonistic, divisive and tempermental. On issues like the coastal path and the release of county attorney opinions, where it is presented that other cities/counties/states have an established process for dealing with an issue, Iseri and Rapozo often complain that "Kauai is unique" and "we don't do things like those other places" (Yup, other places work toward solutions and do not have community diviseness as a goal). To dismiss a argument or solution outright, simply because many others have already done the research and do it a certain way, does not seem productive to me. Iseri and Rapozo also have a haole temperment when in council session and can be thin skinned when it comes to discussing an issue. I don't always see eye to eye with the other council members views (Yukimura, Bynum, Kaneshiro, Kouchi, etc.) but they at least show restraint, respect, and maintain their composure during council sessions.
Scline

Kailua Kona, HI

#36 Aug 31, 2008
I went onto this site because my dog is coming over from Oregon, a very dog-friendly place. Btw, there isn't doggy doo-doo everywhere as it is suggested here. Owners need to be responsible, and so do people who use facilities. Dog owners often have to clean up after others to keep things nice for everyone. People who let their dogs run after bicycles are obviously ruining it for all others, even when most of us keep our dogs in check. I hope dog owners can prove themselves in this instance by reporting aggressive behavior and confronting those who trash our reputations with their lack of dog-owner etiquette.
People on their own commit much more serious offenses way more often than dogs, yet are allowed to roam free with their reckless selves.
The Berrys of Dingle

AOL

#37 Aug 31, 2008
Great idea, they should do it here!!!!!!!!
Miss Jess

Kailua Kona, HI

#38 Sep 28, 2008
YES, Finally!

I should be able to take my dog on morning and evening runs on the path. It's good for both of us! It's becoming so hard to take dogs anywhere these days. As long as you have them on a leash and pick up their poop, IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED!

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