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#1224
Nov 6, 2011
 
KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Isabelle Zehnder reporting)-- Gil Abeyta said Friday that he and his team prepared a detailed report profiling a local man as a potential suspect in the case of missing Missouri baby Lisa Irwin, and that the report was submitted to local police and the FBI two weeks ago.
"I would hope that the authorities would continue following closely on this individual as we feel strongly he had not only the motive - revenge - but also the ability to pull this off," Abeyta said.
Abeyta believes events that occurred the afternoon of Oct. 3, and that appear to have escalated throughout the evening and into the early morning hours of Oct. 4, could have caused the potential suspect to “snap” and act on impulse. He surmises the abduction of Baby Lisa was not planned prior to that day.
He also believes the man has the ability, through his extensive training and professional experience, to not only kidnap the baby but to evade and elude police.“This man is by no means an amateur,” Abeyta said Friday.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-na...
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#1225
Nov 6, 2011
 
Dawg wrote:
<quoted text>What, the lack of guys lining up to hug ya?
Thank God and other sources, they don't get the opportunity to get that close.
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Nov 6, 2011
 
Politically Incorrect wrote:
sorry about the footprints reference. I was thinkin' that the bedrooms have hardwood floors. Don't remember if they did, but probably not, being as the parents floor was carpeted.
<rolls eyes and chuckles>
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Nov 6, 2011
 

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Here's a theory to consider:

Mom and dad have a telephonic fight, perhaps over his tardiness that evening. Mom decides to leave, taking Lisa with her, and gets as far as the vacant house. She has a change of heart, and heads back home, but is too drunk (and still on the phone with dad) to remember the (sleeping) toddler. She arrives home and passes out.
Perhaps a drunken vagrant who has used the vacant property for sleeping stumbles upon a sleeping baby and awakens her accidently. Perhaps her crying scares him and he strangles her with a nightgown she was wearing and finds a dumpster to burn it in.
Maybe he wanders aimlessly, looking for a good place to hide a toddlers dead body.

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#1228
Nov 6, 2011
 
Christopher Abeyta - 25 years later
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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#1229
Nov 6, 2011
 
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Thank God and other sources, they don't get the opportunity to get that close.
Do you mean 'resourses'?
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#1230
Nov 6, 2011
 
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<quoted text>Do you mean 'resourses'?
However YOU please, dear.
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#1231
Nov 6, 2011
 
Judge Judy wrote:
Here's a theory to consider:
Mom and dad have a telephonic fight, perhaps over his tardiness that evening. Mom decides to leave, taking Lisa with her, and gets as far as the vacant house. She has a change of heart, and heads back home, but is too drunk (and still on the phone with dad) to remember the (sleeping) toddler. She arrives home and passes out.
Perhaps a drunken vagrant who has used the vacant property for sleeping stumbles upon a sleeping baby and awakens her accidently. Perhaps her crying scares him and he strangles her with a nightgown she was wearing and finds a dumpster to burn it in.
Maybe he wanders aimlessly, looking for a good place to hide a toddlers dead body.
any theory that makes the slightest sense, is one that we should gladly consider. anything is possible, being as we don't know what solid evidence LE has already. I just pray to God that they are taking advantage of anything(one) who might be able to solve this.

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#1232
Nov 7, 2011
 
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It's easy to see why LE is pointing the finger at her.
Dumb cops can point fingers all they want, LOL.

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Politically Incorrect wrote:
A parent, or lemme change that...a loving parent will go to their crying child first...giving the intruder time to escape.
With the baby stuffed down the intruder's pants? That would be a pantload! LOL.

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Dawg wrote:
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No. All you'd have to believe is that Casey is a sociopath. And, by and large, everyone believes that.
I see Casey as a bi-polar person, unmedicated. The one I know freaks out at the smallest of issues.
I always had Casey convicted of felony child neglect. Anything to get her past child rearing years.
The first degree murder charge was a fantasy that just could not be proven. Will make for many good books and maybe a movie too.
In the end, it's all about the money.
Yeah, that's great, but the jury was made up of a bunch of retards who didn't want to bother thinking about the case. Casey Anthony WAS charged with Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child, which INCLUDES something like your "felony child neglect" aspect.

Here are the exact rules the judge gave the jury on that charge (on the charge of Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child):
To prove the crime of Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child, the State must prove the following two elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

1. Caylee Marie Anthony is dead.

2. Casey Marie Anthony’s act(s) caused the death of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Or

The death of Caylee Marie Anthony was caused by the culpable negligence of Casey Marie Anthony.

I will now define “culpable negligence” for you. Each of us has a duty to act reasonably toward others. If there is a violation of that duty, without any conscious intention to harm, that violation is negligence. But culpable negligence is more than a failure to use ordinary care toward others. In order for negligence to be culpable, it must be gross and flagrant. Culpable negligence is a course of conduct showing reckless disregard of human life, or of the safety of persons exposed to its dangerous effects, or such an entire want of care as to raise a presumption of a conscious indifference to consequences, or which shows wantonness or recklessness, or a grossly careless disregard of the safety and welfare of the public, or such an indifference to the rights of others as is equivalent to an intentional violation of such rights. The negligent act or omission must have been committed with an utter disregard for the safety of others. Culpable negligence is consciously doing an act or following a course of conduct that the defendant must have known, or reasonably should have known, was likely to cause death or great bodily injury.

If you find the defendant guilty of Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child, you must then determine whether the State has further proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Caylee Marie Anthony was a child whose death was caused by the neglect of Casey Marie Anthony, a caregiver.“Child” means any person under the age of 18 years.
“Caregiver” means a parent, adult household member, or other person responsible for a child’s welfare.

“Neglect of a child” means:

1. A caregiver’s failure or omission to provide a child with the care, supervision, and services necessary to maintain a child’s physical and mental health, including, but not limited to, food, nutrition, clothing, shelter, supervision, medicine, and medical services that a prudent person would consider essential for the well-being of the child. Repeated conduct or a single incident or omission by a caregiver that results in, or could reasonably be expected to result in, a substantial risk of death of a child may be considered in determining neglect.
Now...if you really don't think that Casey was at the least guilty of THAT charge, then...well, there's nothing I can do to smack any sense into you. And "reasonable doubt" is ALSO defined to the jury (always); it does not mean just a simple forced doubt (like all of that crap Baez was shovelling about).(cont'd)

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This is what reasonable doubt is, and what it was as defined to Jennifer Ford and the rest of the jurors:
Whenever the words “reasonable doubt” are used you must consider the following:

A reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt.

Such a doubt must not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt.
Time and time again--HOW many times have we heard from those people that they felt in their gut she was guilty of something? Jennifer Ford stated falsely to ABC News that there was nothing else they could do but convict her (or acquit her) of Murder in the First Degree. Bull. Ford didn't know WTF she was doing and neither did anyone else on that jury.*I* read the jury's instructions. They're really NOT that hard to comprehend.

And it's because of THAT stupidity that we may face the same kind of stupidity in THIS case.
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#1236
Nov 7, 2011
 
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Okay, that video cleared up a couple things I wasn't sure of. The BP is just north east of the Irwin/Bradley home. Seeing a real time video, it helped guage the distance between the two. It's not as far as I thought, looking at a map. If I'm deciphering the video correctly, the individual is walking east. That is the direction he would have to travel to get to the area where Mike Thompson witnessed a guy with a baby. The timing of the BP video capturing that image compared to the timing of the sighting at the interstate ramp would be what?
The FB chatter is interesting. You raise a good point...because....Webzi posted a comment that Jeremy had made when he was asked who would do something like this, referring to someone taking his child. Webzi had said that his answer was "someone who who would cheat on their husband", or something near that. Couple that with the Brando separation. Something has been brewing for awhile. People don't generally separate at the drop of a hat.
I think the man was caught on video at the BP around the same time as the fire.
I don't think Brando would have put news of this baby on his FB wall if he had impregnated another woman. He was already married to SB when the posts were made. Maybe, they lost the baby (miscarriage).
This article says that they had been to a marriage counselor that afternoon, and she told them they should try a trial separation.
The night Lisa disappeared was the first night of this trial separation.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/nei...

Remember, reporters stated that what looked like bags of evidence were removed from the Brando home?
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/17/fbi-sear...
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Nov 7, 2011
 
Politically Incorrect wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, there was, but some young woman explained that she and some friends were having a party in the house, and she brought along her 10 mo baby (odd the babies shared the same age, ain't it?). Said the diapers were hers. Wonder why she left the clean ones there? Probably on WIC, and figured there was more where those came from. I dunno if you saw the interior of that house, but things were falling from the ceiling...NOT a place a responsible parent would take their baby. I even thought that woman might have been Lisa, havin' some laff's. Wouldn't put it past her.
WIC is for food items and formula/milk only. You must have cash for diapers, which by the way aren't cheap. I don't get why someone would just leave a whole pack of diapers in an abandoned house unless they were planning to come back with a baby.
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#1238
Nov 7, 2011
 
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KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Isabelle Zehnder reporting)-- Gil Abeyta said Friday that he and his team prepared a detailed report profiling a local man as a potential suspect in the case of missing Missouri baby Lisa Irwin, and that the report was submitted to local police and the FBI two weeks ago.
"I would hope that the authorities would continue following closely on this individual as we feel strongly he had not only the motive - revenge - but also the ability to pull this off," Abeyta said.
Abeyta believes events that occurred the afternoon of Oct. 3, and that appear to have escalated throughout the evening and into the early morning hours of Oct. 4, could have caused the potential suspect to “snap” and act on impulse. He surmises the abduction of Baby Lisa was not planned prior to that day.
He also believes the man has the ability, through his extensive training and professional experience, to not only kidnap the baby but to evade and elude police.“This man is by no means an amateur,” Abeyta said Friday.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-na...
Good article.
I also found this one in which it is reported that the man that Mike Thompson picked from the photos is believed to be James Brando.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/lis...
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Nov 7, 2011
 
Little Indian Girl wrote:
<quoted text>WIC is for food items and formula/milk only. You must have cash for diapers, which by the way aren't cheap. I don't get why someone would just leave a whole pack of diapers in an abandoned house unless they were planning to come back with a baby.
Or leave with a baby in a drunken fit of rage.

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Nov 7, 2011
 
Webzi wrote:
KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Isabelle Zehnder reporting)-- Gil Abeyta said Friday that he and his team prepared a detailed report profiling a local man as a potential suspect in the case of missing Missouri baby Lisa Irwin, and that the report was submitted to local police and the FBI two weeks ago.
"I would hope that the authorities would continue following closely on this individual as we feel strongly he had not only the motive - revenge - but also the ability to pull this off," Abeyta said.
Abeyta believes events that occurred the afternoon of Oct. 3, and that appear to have escalated throughout the evening and into the early morning hours of Oct. 4, could have caused the potential suspect to “snap” and act on impulse. He surmises the abduction of Baby Lisa was not planned prior to that day.
He also believes the man has the ability, through his extensive training and professional experience, to not only kidnap the baby but to evade and elude police.“This man is by no means an amateur,” Abeyta said Friday.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-na...
No amateur! Abeyta says. He must not have tied the slow 3 plus hour walker with baby to this scenario. Someone posted that neighbor man might be in law enforcement, but never confirmed. What kind of extensive training gives one the ability to kidnap? Swat team or navy seal comes to mind. Abeyta must have got close to Bradley/Irwin to know that "things esculated that evening into the am hours,” rather than the quiet night of TV watching, baby sleeping and wine tasting Bradley would have the public believe. Revenge is a strong word to use for the kidnapping. Automatic death for baby. Abeyta, when he first came here, said he couldn’t get close to Bradley/Irwin. The Abeyta case is not solved. Perhaps the above could be applied to his case.

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Nov 7, 2011
 
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This is what reasonable doubt is, and what it was as defined to Jennifer Ford and the rest of the jurors:
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Time and time again--HOW many times have we heard from those people that they felt in their gut she was guilty of something? Jennifer Ford stated falsely to ABC News that there was nothing else they could do but convict her (or acquit her) of Murder in the First Degree. Bull. Ford didn't know WTF she was doing and neither did anyone else on that jury.*I* read the jury's instructions. They're really NOT that hard to comprehend.
And it's because of THAT stupidity that we may face the same kind of stupidity in THIS case.
Amen! I heard jennifer, "I didn't say she was innocent" Very stupid statement. yes, she did that with her vote.

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Man on motorcycle sees man walking with baby (some suspect) I’d as James Brando at 4 am. Brando says he gets up at 5am to work at air force base. I’ll assume Brando has a vehicle to drive. The base is almost an hour away driving from Randolph. If he’s walking to work w/baby at 4am, he’s still got about 18-20 miles to walk to work. Nancy Grace has said she talked with man I’d by Thompson, he said it’s not him. Bradley says she goes to bed at 10:30. She possibly neglects baby, Samatha stays outside talking to neighbor. What neighbor? If Brando is the one with the baby, I’ll assume that either Samatha or Bradley know he has the baby. Jeremy says “someone who cheated on her husband” he may be saying Samantha. Samatha and James could be doing a favor for Bradley by getting rid of baby. Bradley has to play stupid drunk to avoid questions. A 3 ring get rid of baby thing. They are trying to avoid ratting each other out, while James passes every test with flying colors because he is “well trained” his vehicle nearby the sightings with hopes to not be recognized, but to indicate a break-in kidnapping of a mentally ill or vagrant type person. Jersey has been "set-up"
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<quoted text> Yes. After reading what uncle has to say about Bradley, you might remember that Cindy has a brother who e-mailed her and advised Cindy to get Casey to confess. Casey shows up at uncle's wedding 7 months pregnant and brother confronts Cindy. Cindy says no, Casey is not pregnant, just monthly swelling. Brother saw right thru her.
I read the emails from the brother and Cindy. Cindy cussed him out and says she hates him and Casey didn't do anything. You can google the emails.

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