Gathering Place: Oahu must look forward

Gathering Place: Oahu must look forward

There are 51 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 29, 2008, titled Gathering Place: Oahu must look forward. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Early in the 1950s, Kailua town was experiencing rapid growth as a suburb of Honolulu.

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Interesting

Honolulu, HI

#47 Jul 31, 2008
Bush Solution wrote:
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Now Pres. Bush is pushing HOT.
Bush Calls for New Highway Tolls, More Private Funding of Roads
I wonder which one of the Panos Campaign Advisors listed on the web stands to benefit the most from this.
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Campaign Advisors

These experts provide technical and policy advice without compensation or other political or financial motivation.

Michael Amiridis, PhD, Professor of Chemical Engineering and Dean of College of Engineering, University of South Carolina – Energy
Wai-Fah Chen, PhD, National Academy of Engineering Member, Past Dean, College of Engineering, University of Hawaii at Manoa – Structures and Civil Engineering Materials and Systems

Edmond Cheng, PhD, Professor of Civil Engineering, University of Hawaii at Manoa – Oahu Water Resources

John Deighton, BEng CEng MICE MIHT, Director, Halcrow Group and International Private Finance Association - Major Public Private Partnerships Infrastructure

Bill Halkias, MS, PE, Chief Executive Officer, Attica Tollway – Development and Operation of a Public/Private Highway

Alex Skabardonis, PhD, Director, Partners for Advanced Transit and Highways, University of California, Berkeley – Intelligent Transportation Systems

Joseph Schofer, PhD, Associate Dean, McCormick School f Engineering, Northwestern University – Mass Transit Management

Martin Stone, PhD AICP, Director of Planning, Tampa-Hillsborough Expressway Authority – County Highway Planning, Development and Operation

Brian Taylor, PhD, Director, Institute of Transportation Studies, University of California, Los Angeles – Transportation Policy

Koji Tsunokawa, PhD, Professor of Civil Engineering, Saitama University – Asset Management

Kunitoshi Sakurai, PhD, President, Okinawa University – Solid Waste Management

John Tolle, PhD, on sabbatical at University of Hawaii Manoa from U.S. DOT – Federal Government in Transportation

The inclusion of their name does not imply endorsement of the positions on PanosforProgress.com .

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Traffic solution

Honolulu, HI

#48 Jul 31, 2008
Interesting wrote:
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I wonder which one of the Panos Campaign Advisors listed on the web stands to benefit the most from this.
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Campaign Advisors
These experts provide technical and policy advice without compensation or other political or financial motivation.
Michael Amiridis, PhD, Professor of Chemical Engineering and Dean of College of Engineering, University of South Carolina – Energy
Wai-Fah Chen, PhD, National Academy of Engineering Member, Past Dean, College of Engineering, University of Hawaii at Manoa – Structures and Civil Engineering Materials and Systems
Edmond Cheng, PhD, Professor of Civil Engineering, University of Hawaii at Manoa – Oahu Water Resources
John Deighton, BEng CEng MICE MIHT, Director, Halcrow Group and International Private Finance Association - Major Public Private Partnerships Infrastructure
Bill Halkias, MS, PE, Chief Executive Officer, Attica Tollway – Development and Operation of a Public/Private Highway
Alex Skabardonis, PhD, Director, Partners for Advanced Transit and Highways, University of California, Berkeley – Intelligent Transportation Systems
Joseph Schofer, PhD, Associate Dean, McCormick School f Engineering, Northwestern University – Mass Transit Management
Martin Stone, PhD AICP, Director of Planning, Tampa-Hillsborough Expressway Authority – County Highway Planning, Development and Operation
Brian Taylor, PhD, Director, Institute of Transportation Studies, University of California, Los Angeles – Transportation Policy
Koji Tsunokawa, PhD, Professor of Civil Engineering, Saitama University – Asset Management
Kunitoshi Sakurai, PhD, President, Okinawa University – Solid Waste Management
John Tolle, PhD, on sabbatical at University of Hawaii Manoa from U.S. DOT – Federal Government in Transportation
The inclusion of their name does not imply endorsement of the positions on PanosforProgress.com .
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And your point is ?
Jus Bus

Mölndal, Sweden

#49 Jul 31, 2008
FREE THE LOLO wrote:
the bus would do just fine
I'm with you! Give people all over the island a great bus system.

Talk billion dollar mass transit schemes and dreams later, when we've built up a surplus to afford it.

What's with all the rush on rail or HOT guideways anyway?
Local Afar

Mölndal, Sweden

#50 Jul 31, 2008
ipj737 wrote:
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According to HECO, the electricity alone just to run the traction system will be nearly $2 million per month.$23 million annually... that does NOT include electricity associated with train stations...

Also, what are the estimates for maintenance and lifecycle replacement costs? The cost of this would easily triple or quadruple that of the electricity costs....

How on earth is this thing going to sustain itself without massive tax subsidies for perpetuity?
Blogs are a pretty limited avenue for discussion, but I learn alot here, from all sides. If you want to educate the large public, all you can do is what Mufi and his pals do so handily. Keep it simple, and tweak your remarks so that you appeal to the bottom lines.

What people resonate with is stuff they can relate to. "We need to reduce traffic congestion" was a brilliant thing for the Hannemann rail guys to commandeer. It doesn't matter that their rail won't make things better on the roads and in fact wil make things worse for years to come. Rail will take care of congestion -- for people who might live on the west side some time in the future -- nudge nudge wink wink.

I think most people watch the news on TV, which avoids taking stands on controversial issues. Or they flip through the paper and get lost in the statistics, nervous at the angry words, confused by the charming spins.

Not that many people research the issues, or want to discuss them anyway. Maybe they should, but they don't. Talking about rail issues at family gatherings back home rarely goes beyond "hell no," or "yeah maybe," or "we need to fix the traffic jams" or "there goes the views," "we need the jobs," or "take it outside!"

Forget SRN and HOT lanes. We can talk about bike lanes and such too (I will later). But we don't have to cave in to demands for a better solution. The best thing right now is a simple NO to the Parson's Hannemann project. Parson's is a huge part of the problem.
Parsons HOT

Honolulu, HI

#51 Aug 1, 2008
Local Afar wrote:
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Forget SRN and HOT lanes. We can talk about bike lanes and such too (I will later). But we don't have to cave in to demands for a better solution. The best thing right now is a simple NO to the Parson's Hannemann project. Parson's is a huge part of the problem.

1)San Fran Bay Area to toll 790mi of HOV lanes, build another 275 miles in $4.8b project,
TollRoadsNews, 7/31/08
http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/3652

2) Congestion Pricing: Robert Poole’s Open Letter to Elected Officials, July 2008
http://www.planningreport.com/tpr/...

The San Francisco Bay Area’s long-range transportation plan calls for a seamless network of HOT lanes throughout Silicon Valley and the East Bay. A recent study by Parsons Brinckerhoff and EcoNorthwest found that the projected system, if in place by 2018 under a rapid delivery option, would save travelers 75 million vehicle hours a year by 2030. It would reduce overall vehicle hours of travel on the freeway system by 13 percent, and increase average speed for the entire system by 21 percent. And by making traffic flow smoother and faster, it would reduce emissions, including CO2.
Interesting

Honolulu, HI

#52 Aug 1, 2008
Traffic solution wrote:
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And your point is ?
The point is that voters should know who advises the candidates to make a judgment about it. This is a list of Campaign Advisors provided by Panos web site.

You be the judge. I am not commenting, one way or the other.
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Campaign Advisors

These experts provide technical and policy advice without compensation or other political or financial motivation.

Michael Amiridis, PhD, Professor of Chemical Engineering and Dean of College of Engineering, University of South Carolina – Energy

Wai-Fah Chen, PhD, National Academy of Engineering Member, Past Dean, College of Engineering, University of Hawaii at Manoa – Structures and Civil Engineering Materials and Systems

Edmond Cheng, PhD, Professor of Civil Engineering, University of Hawaii at Manoa – Oahu Water Resources

John Deighton, BEng CEng MICE MIHT, Director, Halcrow Group and International Private Finance Association - Major Public Private Partnerships Infrastructure

Bill Halkias, MS, PE, Chief Executive Officer, Attica Tollway – Development and Operation of a Public/Private Highway

Alex Skabardonis, PhD, Director, Partners for Advanced Transit and Highways, University of California, Berkeley – Intelligent Transportation Systems

Joseph Schofer, PhD, Associate Dean, McCormick School f Engineering, Northwestern University – Mass Transit Management

Martin Stone, PhD AICP, Director of Planning, Tampa-Hillsborough Expressway Authority – County Highway Planning, Development and Operation

Brian Taylor, PhD, Director, Institute of Transportation Studies, University of California, Los Angeles – Transportation Policy

Koji Tsunokawa, PhD, Professor of Civil Engineering, Saitama University – Asset Management

Kunitoshi Sakurai, PhD, President, Okinawa University – Solid Waste Management

John Tolle, PhD, on sabbatical at University of Hawaii Manoa from U.S. DOT – Federal Government in Transportation

The inclusion of their name does not imply endorsement of the positions on PanosforProgress.com .
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“ Guru”

Since: Jan 08

Manhattan Beach

#53 Aug 1, 2008
ipj737 wrote:
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Tell me about it. I still believe that the poll conducted was shenanigans. There is no way that 80% of The People believe Mufi is doing a great job. Most people don’t realize that of the 500 people polled, 250 lived RIGHT ALONG the proposed rail route (within a few blocks) and the other 250 polled lived ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND. So those polled that weren’t right next to the system may have lived very close… perhaps right next to it too. To be fair, the poll should have had a larger sampling base (e.g, >1,000 people) and the people polled should have resided across the entire island and not be cherry picked right next to the proposed rail route. That would be similar to democrats polling 500 Americans on who they would vote for – McCain or Obama. But of the 500 polled, 250 were democrats. And the other 250 were randomly selected people that may have been democrats, republicans or independents. So of course the results would be in favor of whomever the democratic nominee was.
But interestingly, nobody brought up this serious sticking point. That is why I believe that Oahu is full of uneducated people that have little care about their govt and what goes on. They are sheep… and the Hon Ad/Mufi administration knows this. They got the people, hook line & sinker.
.... I don't know much of anything about this project, but I know that I want ipj to get involved with this at city hall. He knows his stuff, and can communicate very well. Make a presentation at city hall in front of those guys with the newspapers present. Pass out plenty of materials with this stuff in it, sne dcopies to every newspaper in Hawaii. This will get you traction on this issue pj....just don't give up! It is worth a try.
Dirty Money

Honolulu, HI

#54 Aug 1, 2008
Interesting wrote:
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The point is that voters should know who advises the candidates to make a judgment about it._________
Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann has already benefited from the rail project through the end of 2007, reaping contributions from dozens of mainland Parsons Brinckerhoff and CH2M directors and engineers who will head up the project. Here are a few of nearly 100 examples:
Parsons Brinckerhoff, New York,$6,000
Thomas E. Barron, Exec. VP Parsons Transportation Group, D.C.,$1,000
David L. Backus, Exec. VP, Parsons, Water/Infrastructure, California,$1,000
Lisa G. Nungesser, Sr. VP, Parsons Brinckerhoff, Texas,$1,000
Thomas Prendergrast, Dir. of Svcs., Parsons Brinckerhoff, New Jersey,$1,000
George J. Pierson, Gen. Counsel, Parsons Brinckerhoff, Pennsylvania,$3,000
Amy Linden, Dir. of Strategic Planning, Parsons Brinckerhoff, New York,$2,500
Stephen M. Shive, Sr. VP, Parsons Transportation Group, Washington,$1,000
Westley K.C. Chun, Client Svcs. Mgr., CH2M, Hawaii,$2,600
Samuel Iapalucci, Exec. VP, CFO, CH2M, Colorado,$1,000
Jill Shapiro, retired, CH2M Hill Inc.,$4,000
William T. Dehn, Regional Operations Mgr., CH2M, Colorado,$1,000
Don S. Evans, Pres. & Group Chief Exec., Colorado,$1,500
Many Political Action Committees are also chipping into the Mayor’s campaign fund, including:
Lyon & Associates Inc.– HIPAC,$1,500
Bancontrol First Hawaiian Bank Good Citizenship Committee,$3,250
Alexander & Baldwin Inc. HIPAC,$5,000
Builders Political Action Committee,$4,150
Central Pacific Bank PAC,$4,000
Finance Enterprises PAC,$4,100
Gentry Ohana PAC,$6,000
Hawaii Laborers PAC,$5,000
ILWU Local 142 Hawaii PAC,$5,000
Ironworkers for Better Government,$7,000
Island Insurance PAC,$9,000
Hawaii Laborers PAC,$5,000
Nearly $300,000 has poured in from over 200 out-of-state investors. Big names include:
George Pasha IV and George W. Pasha III, Pasha Group, California,$12,450
Irongate AZREP BW LLC executives, Kapolei raceway land (90 lots to be sold to “end users and bulk buyers” and Trump International Hotel,$8,000
Woody L. Hunt, Hunt Building Group, Texas,$9,000
J.T. Kruer and Company, real estate developers, California,$9,050
Blackrock, Inc.,($1+ trillion investment management firm) James Grosfield (Pulte Homes, CART, etc.); and family member contributions,$29,900
Monarch Group 1 – La Jolla investment firm; $100 million from Goldman Sachs to be used to acquire land, and Monarch Group, incl. Masis A. Kevorkian, William Patrick Kruer (multi-billionaire builder and California Coastal Commission chair), Rodney F. Stone, Ryan E. Stone, Sarah J. Kruer,$26,000
Of interest are contributions from 68 City & County current or former employees to the mayor’s campaign fund, including:
Lester K.C. Chang, Dir., Dept of Parks & Recreation,$6,000
Ann H. Chung, Hawaii State Ethics Commission $1,000
Henry Eng, Director and Planner,$2,250
Jan Gouveia, Chief Legal Counsel, Board of Water Supply,$1,500
Clarice Y. Hashimoto Special Assistant,$3,800
Isaac K. Hokama, Special Assistant,$4,000
Melvin N. Kaku, former Director & Engineer (Kaku Assoc.$407,200 for Transit Plan)$1,000
Paul S. Kikuchi, CFO, Board of Water Supply,$1,750
Clifford Lum, Chief Engineer, Board of Water Supply,$3,000
Deborah K. Morikawa, Director,$4,000
Keith Nakamatsu, Director,$2,500
Joyce A.M. Oliveira, Exec. Asst., Office of the Mayor,$6,000
Amar Sappal, Honolulu Public Transit Authority/DTS,$4,000
Richard F. Torres, Deputy Director, Dept. of Transportation,$2,000
Mary Patricia Waterhouse, Director,$4,000
Investors, developers, attorneys, CPAs, contractors and landowners round out the $2.3 million dollar list of contributions.
Sensei

San Francisco, CA

#55 Aug 1, 2008
Real Estate Guru 2008 wrote:
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.... I don't know much of anything about this project, but I know that I want ipj to get involved with this at city hall. He knows his stuff, and can communicate very well. Make a presentation at city hall in front of those guys with the newspapers present. Pass out plenty of materials with this stuff in it, sne dcopies to every newspaper in Hawaii. This will get you traction on this issue pj....just don't give up! It is worth a try.
Oh yeah, a presentation will convince them to change their mind. Hahahahahahaha.

This is about BILLIONS OF DOLLARS my friend. A little powerpoint presentation isn't changing anything. Its about Union power and political power and money, money and money.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#56 Aug 1, 2008
Sensei wrote:
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Oh yeah, a presentation will convince them to change their mind. Hahahahahahaha.
This is about BILLIONS OF DOLLARS my friend. A little powerpoint presentation isn't changing anything. Its about Union power and political power and money, money and money.
sensei. I told you to handle only one blog site at a time. You can't answer all these questions simultaneously.
Reform PULTE the RICO

Tampa, FL

#57 Sep 22, 2011
PULTE / DiVosta homes are too close together ............... then PULTE installs noisy pooll pumps after the closing ......... typical PULTE bait and switch ........... the PULTE the deceptive ......... sets up sham HOA to further rip off vulnerable senior citizens .

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