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The unanimous U.S. House Republican vote against the Obama administration's stimulus package should make all Americans quietly proud of this courageous adherence to principles.
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Since: Nov 07

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#62
Feb 18, 2009
 
Bullshot Crummond wrote:
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Well, there's the point. So the Dems are doing the "party line" thing at the moment, too. After they are out of power, then liberals will say bad things about them just as the conservatives are now talking down the go-along-to-get-along Republicans of the one-and-one-half Bush administrations. Seems fair.
Yes, I know, a vicious cycle, isn't it? We could have the best candidate from any Party and regardless of that individual's experience and capabilities, the "other side" will still criticize and slander.

Which is why I don't enjoy towing the "Party line". I base my views on the views of the Founding Fathers, not based on Party rhetoric, which is why I didn't vote for Bush in 2004, McCain last year and have been critical of Linda Lingle (And why I am an admirer of Ed Case).

As I had said once before, last year. I don't criticize Obama because he's a Democrat. If he were a Ronald Reagan Republican, who believed in limited and accountable government, limited taxation, strong national defense and the Free market, he would had gotten my vote and I would had been out in the streets, every day, supporting him. But because he's a "Big government, tax and spend" liberal, I don't support him, and from what I have seen in his first month has, to me, been a disappointment.

Republicans had towed the Party line when Bush was in office and I have zero respect for those sheep. Now that some new Republicans are in office and many have "rediscovered" Reagan Republicanism, lets see how many "walk the walk", instead of just "talking the talk".

Based on the many conservative Republican groups I am a part of, many common, conservative Republicans will be watching and voting, accordingly, in the 2010 elections. Republican politicians are still on notice by their constituents and supporters.

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#63
Feb 18, 2009
 
Leilani wrote:
So you believe that de-funding the DOE will improve students' achievements? So there would be no money for electricity and even minimal maintenance of school facilities, no money for books, science lab supplies, paint brushes and paper for art classes, sheet music and musical instruments for music classes, paper and pens for writing classes, no money for teachers, principals, counselors, janitors, coaches, football teams. And you think this will IMPROVE the DOE?????
No Leilani, I never said we needed to defund the DOE, but that money needs to be better spent on it's true intent, which is properly educating our children.

$2.4BILLION is alot of money, and from what I have read, our state education system is one of the best funded in the Nation, yet we rank at 45?

Do you know the majority of that $2.4BILLION doesn't go to the classrooms nor the books and materials for the children to learn? Most of it goes to administrative perks and operations.

Many times principals, teachers and parents have complained to DOE Superintentdent Pat Hamamoto, but she doesn't answer the hard questions. She goes to the school meetings, makes a big speech and then tells the parents she needs to leave because she has another appointment.

The Demcoratic-majority state legislature, instead of asking Ms. Hamamoto the hard questions, like, "Where, exactly, is the $2.4BILLION being spent on?", instead, want to give her even more money with little to no accountability and even give her a pay raise, even though our public schools are slipping downhill.

Being more responsible with OUR money, for the public schools, means more oversight by our state legislature, especially since they've made it impossible for Ms. Hamamoto to be accountable to the Governor.

No one's talking defunding the DOE, but more oversight on how the money is being used, is necessary.
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Feb 18, 2009
 
Thom1s wrote:
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Socialism is a scheme that works just dandy until you run out of the other guy's money.
Folks who have been suckered into believing that any such thing as "compassionate government" exists are nothing but marks, begging to be fleeced by the nearest snake oil salesman.
Government is a MACHINE that has no soul and zero in the way of compassion. Flesh and blood people DO MAN the machine, but the machine itself is incapable of emotion, tenderness, mercy, benevolence et cetera.
And why?
Simple when you hurl money and then more money at the machine it becomes adept at sucking up the money and demanding more.
And the victims to which the machine is supposed to show compassion?
When you send ANY money into the government machine the ONLY thing you are EVER buying is a tenured box checking, paper shuffling, butt kissing bureaucrat interested ONLY in his own upward career mobility, one who does not give the snap of a well manicured finger what happens to his imaginary "clients" who were so stupid as to believe government CARES what becomes of them.
it seems to me you could replace 'government" with "free market" or "unregulated capitalism" in your statement and it would be the same thing. Unregulated capitalism in the form of corporations or monopolies becomes just as much of a "MACHINE that has no soul and zero in the way of compassion." It won't care about your problems, the health or financial risks to you and yours, as long as it makes its profit for its stockholders and ceo's. We've just seen it happen. The answer is somewhere in between, because certainly government alone is not the answer, and it can become the soul-less machine filled with butt-kissing bureaucrats as much as any Enron. But at least we have a chance to vote them out every once in a while.
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it seems to me you could replace 'government" with "free market" or "unregulated capitalism" in your statement and it would be the same thing.
How it "seems" and how it is are two different things. The government often diametrically opposed to the operation of a free market, especially in socialist states as opposed to, say, the former British Crown Colony in Hong Kong in which unregulated capitalism created legions of wealthy people out of formerly dirt poor people.
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Unregulated capitalism in the form of corporations or monopolies becomes and so forth.
Your use of corporation and monopoly interchangeably suggests your understanding of either one is woefully small. BTW can you name just one REPEAT ONE U.S. corporation that has a monopoly on ANYTHING?
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becomes just as much of a "MACHINE that has no soul and zero in the way of compassion." It won't care about your problems, the health or financial risks to you and yours,
You've made it pretty clear you have almost no understanding as to how wealth is created in this country or the role of the wealth engines known as corporations. If a corporation -- or any business firm for that matter -- treats its employees as shabbily as you seem to think, the employees will vote with their feet and profits will plummet. There is a human side to for profit enterprises and woe betide the management that ignores this essential factor.
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..... as long as it makes its profit for its stockholders and ceo's..
At the risk of pointing out what should be obvious even to YOU, no profits means no jobs, Sportin' Blood.
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Feb 18, 2009
 
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How it "seems" and how it is are two different things. The government often diametrically opposed to the operation of a free market, especially in socialist states as opposed to, say, the former British Crown Colony in Hong Kong in which unregulated capitalism created legions of wealthy people out of formerly dirt poor people.
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Your use of corporation and monopoly interchangeably suggests your understanding of either one is woefully small. BTW can you name just one REPEAT ONE U.S. corporation that has a monopoly on ANYTHING?
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You've made it pretty clear you have almost no understanding as to how wealth is created in this country or the role of the wealth engines known as corporations. If a corporation -- or any business firm for that matter -- treats its employees as shabbily as you seem to think, the employees will vote with their feet and profits will plummet. There is a human side to for profit enterprises and woe betide the management that ignores this essential factor.
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At the risk of pointing out what should be obvious even to YOU, no profits means no jobs, Sportin' Blood.
Hey Gilligan you idiot. Try Microsoft. And a 5 second google isn't going to get you the answer either.

Is this the kind of education our kids can expect?
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Feb 18, 2009
 
Obama in 2012!!!!!!!!

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Thom1s wrote:
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How it "seems" and how it is are two different things. The government often diametrically opposed to the operation of a free market, especially in socialist states as opposed to, say, the former British Crown Colony in Hong Kong in which unregulated capitalism created legions of wealthy people out of formerly dirt poor people.
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Your use of corporation and monopoly interchangeably suggests your understanding of either one is woefully small. BTW can you name just one REPEAT ONE U.S. corporation that has a monopoly on ANYTHING?
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You've made it pretty clear you have almost no understanding as to how wealth is created in this country or the role of the wealth engines known as corporations. If a corporation -- or any business firm for that matter -- treats its employees as shabbily as you seem to think, the employees will vote with their feet and profits will plummet. There is a human side to for profit enterprises and woe betide the management that ignores this essential factor.
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At the risk of pointing out what should be obvious even to YOU, no profits means no jobs, Sportin' Blood.
There is no such thing as wealth. Get over it.
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Bush left America weakened, demoralized and defeated. Sad.

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Feb 18, 2009
 
alice wrote:
Bush left America weakened, demoralized and defeated. Sad.
Well, Alice, Bush hasn't actually left America ... yet. But it's something to contemplate, for sure.
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Leilani wrote:
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Of course, that is my point. Cutting monies for books, lab, art, music supplies would make things even worse. The top levels need to be removed from the process, and I would transfer all monies spent by the higher ups to the teachers. I would give each teacher a credit card worth somewhere between $25,000 to $50,000 each year to buy the books, supplies, desks,chairs, etc., they need for their classrooms. If $50,000 proves to be not enough, I would increase it to $100,000. I would give principals credit cards for.say, 10 to 20 million dollars to retrofit their schools for electricity, air conditioning, repairs to the roof, bathrooms, etc.,.
I stand corrected...except for the principal's use of credit cards, people get a little funny when it comes to money, especially if it's OPM. Thank you...Leilani

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I would point out that the difference between a formerly dirt-poor person in Hong Kong and one that has stayed dirt-poor appears to be what Thom1s calls wealth.

He thinks the wealthy ones have more value than the ones without wealth. That is how he thinks. That is how he measures.

That is why, as a human being, Thom1s has very little value himself.

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