Letters to the Editor - Letters

Letters to the Editor - Letters

There are 20 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Apr 16, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Letters. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Cuts in social programs are wrong. People who require these services do not stop needing them because revenue is short.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

willie

Plymouth, MI

#1 Apr 16, 2009
"Carbon cap can bring big benefits"

Just a few thoughts on this. First if the local generating plant is slapped with huge carbon offsets (paid to Washington BTW) just who do you think is actually paying? Not the generating company. Any and all offsets will go directly to the consumers. Sure this "might" create jobs. Hawaii has had decades to get off oil but choose not too. So here we are, paying huge carbon offsets (read revenue engine for Washington) AND will have to pay to build "green" generators...a double whammy. We all know nukes will never be built. Forget windfarms, no one will allow them with 10 miles of a home. Solar is hugely expensive for a small return so what does that leave?

Does something need to be done? Sure but the carbon cap is really bad way to do it.
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#2 Apr 16, 2009
Willie, great points. President Obama is already starting to back off his own Cap-n-Trade proposal because of a growing opposition to the idea on both side of the political aisle. Cap-n-Trade will significantly raise the cost of producing energy in this country, which will be passed on to the consumers. Cap-n-Trade is a "pie-in-the-sky" idea, that will not work and will not come to fruition for good reason. If America wants to lessen its dependence on foreign oil and significantly reduce carbon emmissions, it will need to develop and build smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles (25 - 30 MPG is NOT fuel efficient!) and significantly increase its reliance on nuclear power. More windfarms should be build, but government will need to force-build such due to a prevelant NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) and BANANA (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone) mindsets. All new construction homes should also be required to have at least one solar panel, if only to help produce hot water or to power a few outlets in the home.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#3 Apr 16, 2009
"Giving shows aloha spirit" and Leong basically blaming Hawaiians while mentioning the "aloha spirit":

Once again the editors at the Honolulu Star Bulletin choose to describe a letter to the editor which implies once again that it is Hawaiians' fault that cuts in social programs are all due to the absence of the "aloha spirit."

However the "aloha spirit" was created by the Hawai'i Visitors' Bureau and anyone who knows about Hawaiian history knows that

1. Molokaiians Molokai pule o'o
2. Some Ka'uans killed their oppressive chiefs and
3. Some Mauians pushed some O'ahuans off of some cliffs.

The Aloha Spirit??? Just another tool to BLAME Hawaiians for every damn thing that is going "wrong" in Hawai'i.

I wish the editors were more like those at the New York Times. As in FAIR, reasonable, and ACCURATE.
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#4 Apr 16, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
"Giving shows aloha spirit" and Leong basically blaming Hawaiians while mentioning the "aloha spirit":
Once again the editors at the Honolulu Star Bulletin choose to describe a letter to the editor which implies once again that it is Hawaiians' fault that cuts in social programs are all due to the absence of the "aloha spirit."
However the "aloha spirit" was created by the Hawai'i Visitors' Bureau and anyone who knows about Hawaiian history knows that
1. Molokaiians Molokai pule o'o
2. Some Ka'uans killed their oppressive chiefs and
3. Some Mauians pushed some O'ahuans off of some cliffs.
The Aloha Spirit??? Just another tool to BLAME Hawaiians for every damn thing that is going "wrong" in Hawai'i.
I wish the editors were more like those at the New York Times. As in FAIR, reasonable, and ACCURATE.
Lana, how on Earth did you interpret that letter as an attack on Hawaiians? After seeing your post, I had to go back and re-read it to see if I had missed something? You're attacking an assertion that wasn't even implied, much less openly stated.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#5 Apr 16, 2009
Hawaiian Republican wrote:
<quoted text>
Lana, how on Earth did you interpret that letter as an attack on Hawaiians? After seeing your post, I had to go back and re-read it to see if I had missed something? You're attacking an assertion that wasn't even implied, much less openly stated.
Hi Hawaiian Republican.

I wish some people would look words up in the dictionary instead of presuming to know what I am talking about lol

An implication can mean

"something implied or suggested as naturally to be inferred or understood."

When the editors or people use the "aloha spirit" to blame someone for some THING an implication is that it is the fault of HAWAIIANS.

Obviously you disagree. However in MY opinion they know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Keep in mind that I am highly intellectual and see some things that some people do not see and/or do not WANT to see. For those intellectuals... I am only stating the obvious.

For people like you... you can agree to disagree instead like MATURE people do... instead of perhaps acting immature about it lol
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#6 Apr 16, 2009
Regarding "Giving Shows Aloha Spirit":

First, most people don't mind helping the helpless (mentally ill, physically disabled, etc.). It's just that we don't want our taxes going to helping the clueless (high school dropouts, drug addicts, irresponsible people, etc.).

Also, why does "if money is tight, raises taxes" must be the first course of action. How about we look at ways to streamline processes, cut waste in government, eliminate reduction and re-work, discontinue ineffective or unnecessary programs, or find alternative ways at raising money for the target group? Just like in a family budget, when times get tough, the first answer isn't always "get another job" to bring in more income. Often times, simple steps can be taken to stretch the current income further (ie, take a bag lunch instead of buying Zippy's everyday).

Lastly, the letter writer's tone demands charity from the public. You cannot demand or legislate charity less it become not charity at all and completely thwarts the "Spirit of Aloha" you wish to exemplify.
Stumpy

Honolulu, HI

#7 Apr 16, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Hawaiian Republican.
I wish some people would look words up in the dictionary instead of presuming to know what I am talking about lol
An implication can mean
"something implied or suggested as naturally to be inferred or understood."
When the editors or people use the "aloha spirit" to blame someone for some THING an implication is that it is the fault of HAWAIIANS.
Obviously you disagree. However in MY opinion they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
Keep in mind that I am highly intellectual and see some things that some people do not see and/or do not WANT to see. For those intellectuals... I am only stating the obvious.
For people like you... you can agree to disagree instead like MATURE people do... instead of perhaps acting immature about it lol
I guess I'm not intellectual enough either, because Lana, I can't understand a d*amn thing you just wrote.
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#8 Apr 16, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Hawaiian Republican.
I wish some people would look words up in the dictionary instead of presuming to know what I am talking about lol
An implication can mean
"something implied or suggested as naturally to be inferred or understood."
When the editors or people use the "aloha spirit" to blame someone for some THING an implication is that it is the fault of HAWAIIANS.
Obviously you disagree. However in MY opinion they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
Keep in mind that I am highly intellectual and see some things that some people do not see and/or do not WANT to see. For those intellectuals... I am only stating the obvious.
For people like you... you can agree to disagree instead like MATURE people do... instead of perhaps acting immature about it lol
I entirely understand the meaning of "implication" and used a form of the word myself in my first post response to you. Regardless of how intellectual you may be, it is a far s t r e t c h to assert that the the letter writer (or, the Star-Bulletin for chosing his letter) had any malice for ethnic Hawaiians. In context, the letter writer is lambasting elected officials for cuts in social programs, and perhaps by extension, the public for being more charitable.

It is MY observation that you are looking for an opportunity to twist this into a Hawaiian "dissing" issue. I presume if a writer were to rant about not liking Hawaiian chocolates, you would read into that some kind of prejudice against the Kanaka Maoli.
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#10 Apr 16, 2009
Correct: "...and perhaps by extension, the public for NOT being more charitable".

Funny how you see all the mistakes after clicking the POST COMMENT button.
Pau

Phoenix, AZ

#11 Apr 16, 2009
Hawaiian Republican wrote:
<quoted text>
I entirely understand the meaning of "implication" and used a form of the word myself in my first post response to you. Regardless of how intellectual you may be, it is a far s t r e t c h to assert that the the letter writer (or, the Star-Bulletin for chosing his letter) had any malice for ethnic Hawaiians. In context, the letter writer is lambasting elected officials for cuts in social programs, and perhaps by extension, the public for being more charitable.
It is MY observation that you are looking for an opportunity to twist this into a Hawaiian "dissing" issue. I presume if a writer were to rant about not liking Hawaiian chocolates, you would read into that some kind of prejudice against the Kanaka Maoli.
Couple observations. First, I completely agree with your counter opinion to Lana.

Second, haven't you been down this path before with this same subject?
GO GREEN

Honolulu, HI

#13 Apr 16, 2009
Thanks Mr. Genadio for being the "Watch Dawg" out there for the uninformed. The cost savings for rail by letting MAGLEV compete are enormous and everyone is just sticking there head in the sand. Well you have done your best and I applaud you for your efforts. But it is pitiful when after the project is built with the inferior system, we say "I told you so". Anytime you want to run for office let me know. "I WANT THE BEST RAIL SYSTEM FOR THIS SPECIAL PLACE WE CALL HAWAII!!!"
Nordstrom Next

Honolulu, HI

#15 Apr 16, 2009
That's right folks. Nordstrom is the next big store slated to leave Hawaii.

It never was a fit here with all the upscale and outrageous prices.

They never learn :(

Bye Bye Nordstrom !
mario

Kihei, HI

#16 Apr 16, 2009
Good point Frank. But you know how our politicians mind worked already.(Except a few maybe)It is so easy to read what their motives are. They will not listen. They don't care whatever the result of the train, the expenses, main thing they succeed with their political ambition first. Like the Boat who is to be blame today?
no_need

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#17 Apr 16, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Hawaiian Republican.
I wish some people would look words up in the dictionary instead of presuming to know what I am talking about lol
An implication can mean
"something implied or suggested as naturally to be inferred or understood."
When the editors or people use the "aloha spirit" to blame someone for some THING an implication is that it is the fault of HAWAIIANS.
Obviously you disagree. However in MY opinion they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
Keep in mind that I am highly intellectual and see some things that some people do not see and/or do not WANT to see. For those intellectuals... I am only stating the obvious.
For people like you... you can agree to disagree instead like MATURE people do... instead of perhaps acting immature about it lol
wow. sounds like you got issues.

have you ever thought that your "highly intellectual" observations are subjective? you see what you want to see and twist it around to mean what you want it to mean, even if it wasn't the intent. doesn't mean you're intellectual.

Since: Feb 08

Santa Maria, CA

#18 Apr 16, 2009
Alex Woodbury wrote, "My family and my business have benefited thus far; however, in order for our economy to truly benefit, our leaders need to step in and force change.

What with, jack-booted brownshirts carrying guns maybe?

I hope you did not mean how it sounds!
Frank Genadio

Hilo, HI

#19 Apr 16, 2009
mario wrote:
Good point Frank. But you know how our politicians mind worked already.(Except a few maybe)It is so easy to read what their motives are. They will not listen. They don't care whatever the result of the train, the expenses, main thing they succeed with their political ambition first. Like the Boat who is to be blame today?
Unfortunately, you are right. If, however, they become aware that their current actions might be brought up as issues in their next electoral campaigns, they might reconsider their positions. The mayor, for example, has to be aware that not all of the negative comments on the city's transit project come from "Stop Rail Now" proponents. I am not the only one trying to persuade the city to conduct a fair and open competition on transit. Those of us hoping to see the mag-lev compete will be "refreshing voters' memories" in 2010 if the competition remains limited to steel-on-steel. Actually, I believe that directing a change to an open competition will work to the mayor's benefit. By avoiding a rush toward "breaking ground" and stating that he wants to ensure the project is done right, he can deflect much of the current criticism. If he is not in a hurry (e.g., now setting his sights on a U.S. Senate seat in 2012), he can make more gains with voters by conducting an open and ethical transit competition than by looking for more campaign funds.
Frank Genadio

Hilo, HI

#20 Apr 16, 2009
Those interested in my letter on the HSST mag-lev will find some additional comments on the other access to the letters page from the Home Page.
kls

Kailua, HI

#21 Apr 16, 2009
no_need wrote:
<quoted text>
wow. sounds like you got issues.
have you ever thought that your "highly intellectual" observations are subjective? you see what you want to see and twist it around to mean what you want it to mean, even if it wasn't the intent. doesn't mean you're intellectual.
it is always about race with her notice she fled the coop when she could
Hawaiian Republican

Philadelphia, PA

#22 Apr 16, 2009
Pau wrote:
<quoted text>
Couple observations. First, I completely agree with your counter opinion to Lana.
Second, haven't you been down this path before with this same subject?
You may be right, Pau, but I can't let Lana distort things like that into a Hawaiian "dissing" issue.

“Hawai'i loa kulike 'oukou.”

Since: Feb 09

London, Na mokupuni Beretannia

#23 Apr 17, 2009
-While failing like others to associate Lana's comments with Mr. Leonard Leong's letter, she has the admirable old Prussian quality of "Absolute frankness even toward the King." On regressive analysis her comments generally display the information source of her sentiments for access and verification, in this respect she does display the gift of unique intelligence. Many of us give a customary blizzard of obscure sources and dispense personal opinion and bias, the ramifications of which lead to polarization. Through her data acquisition Lana does encourage further exploration on the subjects on which she comments, in this respect she does readers a favor. Let us recall the Chinese maxim: "From the pine tree learn of the pine tree, and from the bamboo learn of the bamboo."

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