Al Capone's West Michigan ties: Fact or fun-fiction?

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Last week, News 3 told you about a West Michigan home that some believe may have links to Al Capone.
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Morris

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Jul 12, 2012
 
Shannon wrote:
I'm from Kemptville, Ontario, Canada.
There is a very large, old mansion in tonw that is said to have been another one of Al Capones' hide outs. Can that be verified? The house is massive, we're rural, but this ain't no log cabin in the woods!
Yes, 409 Oxford St., Kemptville, ON, Canada. Massive house, with tunnels underneath. Former summer home of Al Capone. The property actually borders Maley St. on the North, Oxford St. on the South, and almost to Parliament St. on the East and almost to James St. on the West.
Kalamazoo MI

Portage, MI

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#815
Jul 26, 2012
 
I find it funny that nobody talk's about Al's family with my Grandma Oliver. It would be nice to get to know that side of the family.... engeltero@aim.com Dustin
Atomic blast

Benton Harbor, MI

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Jul 30, 2012
 

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I've been by the house on Flynn Rd. when I was a teenager about 35 years ago. We were told that it used to be used by Al Capone & his gang..I've also read that the house was also owned by a Chicago mayor as a summer home, I don't know which mayor or when.
I can remember my grandma telling me that Al used to stay at the old Vincent Hotel in Benton Harbor, MI..She said he'd rent out a whole floor & bring in his buddies for gambling, booze, & parties. My grandma had a neighbor who was a maid at the Vincent Hotel & that's how she found out about it. I was watching an outdoor show on TV about 10 yrs. ago & there was a black guy, a bellman, on the program that said he used to go across the street from the Vincent to a drug store(Cunningham's) to get medicine for Al..The black guy was 92 yrs. old when the program aired so it all made sense..
tiff

Fort Wayne, IN

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#817
Aug 7, 2012
 
Lillian Fierro wrote:
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You are correct , I just showed this home yesterday to a client . The views from the hilltop are amazing. The house has really in dior need for someone to restore it to its prior glory.It is such a shame this house has been allowed to crumble as we speak. I am hoping someone can come along and see the vision and restore it .
Lillian Fierro
Re/max Mid Michigan Brooklyn
www.lillianfierro.com
I hear there is a book about this house you would happen to know the name or auther would you?
ima hoosier

Itasca, IL

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#818
Aug 13, 2012
 
al capone had special places to stay at all throughout the midwest, too. seemsa like all of these places had secret passageways and cavern type rooms. my dad always said that al capone may have been a bad a.. but he could not have been in three places at once when things went wrong and the law accused him of so much wrong doing. anyway, i was astounded when my brother in law told me about the capone days and the gangs in phoenix city; not too far from columbus ga. a stopover on the way to fla and cuba. does anyone know if he fed the needy in other places besides chicago? i have often read that he provided soup kitchins and bread lines for the depression weary people.
Heather

Lansing, MI

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#819
Aug 13, 2012
 
k rolo wrote:
Very interesting reading.I started this search because i was kayaking in gun lake with a friend and he pointed to a house on a hill (the highest house on the lake)and said thats one of Al Capones hideouts (it says "the crows nest" along the top of the cottage.He said his grandma was quite a "floozy" and supposedly partyed at the cottage with Capone and his buddys.(his family,and his inlaws family have lived at the lake for generations.His greatgrandpa homesteaded land there(i think 2 sq. miles!),his grandpa owned the marina/snowmobile dealrship. So he really knows a lot of history about the place.
it was one of Capones hide outs one of my dads friends his wifes parents owns the cottages around the hill and owns the one on top of this hill.i used to go there once in a while. you used to be able to see the tunnel but its grown over now and filled in i believe.
Misty

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My Grandfather Herbert Brant had a lock and gunsmith shop near the Vincent hotel. Al Capone came in to have some guns repaired. As I recall he told me that he fixed the hand guns but refused on moral principles to fix the machine gun.
Thomas

Whitehorse, Canada

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#822
Aug 21, 2012
 
That's awesome! I always thought that was just town gossip.

Do you have a source for that beyond the vague "longtime residence of Kemptville"? That's all I've seen in terms of corroboration.

Thanks in advance.
Morris wrote:
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Yes, 409 Oxford St., Kemptville, ON, Canada. Massive house, with tunnels underneath. Former summer home of Al Capone. The property actually borders Maley St. on the North, Oxford St. on the South, and almost to Parliament St. on the East and almost to James St. on the West.
DavidSJ

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#823
Aug 21, 2012
 
The house on the river was owned by friends of mine growing up as a teen in the 1980'2 by the Gersonde Family. There was indeed a double door that led down to the river. There was a v shaped concrete shoot going down to the river where they would push a boat down for escape. In the basement was a boat rack with a winch and the boat could be winched up the hill back into the basement. The spiral staircases in the house all had different step hieghts so if you knew the opatterns you could easily go up an down with no issues, if you didn't you almost certainly fell
leif

Kalamazoo, MI

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#824
Aug 31, 2012
 
i was wondering if al capone had a home for his mom on westnadge hill in kalamazoo michigan ive heard it for years that there is a home but id like to find out the truth
Theonlyrightone

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#825
Sep 17, 2012
 
okay you all have alot of good storys some sound completely crazy but i do know the true story about the house in purgatory, it was built and owned by joe Louis who was the heavy weight champion of the world at the time and there were no houses for miles around, i actually live less that a mile from the mansion in purgatory and once met an old black man that was joe Louis's sparring partner and had pictures with him in the house and had a boxing ring out front, but he did confirm that they used to play poker with al capone and his guys and joe Louis would always let al capone hideout there
Brian S

Muskegon, MI

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#826
Sep 21, 2012
 
I went to school at Constantine and played football. I was a running back, so needless to say, I was pretty fast. I used to jog by Joe Louis's house/Al Capone's hideout all the time. It's pretty cool out there but freaky as hell. I found myself having to run more then once, glad I am fast. Still live in the Constantine area.
Shayna

Chicago, IL

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#827
Sep 25, 2012
 
I am interested about "purgatory" on Preston rd in St. Joseph County. Do you have picture from before the house burned?
Chris wrote:
If anyone is interested in "Purgatory" and "Capone", in St. Joseph County, close to Three Rivers, and White Pigeon, get ahold of me. I can tell you the facts, fiction, etc. about what he did have connections to and didn't. Also, which myths are true and others which are not reported.
One thing I will say though, the mansion in Jones area burned down by some kids back in 2003 or 2004. The "Factory" as they call it underground used to actually be a place for him to gamble while he was there, and it was a spot for money laundering while he was not there. This room is STILL ACCESSABLE to this day, and I can show someone the room, along still with tables, charts, etc.
Email me at: chris@michiganmustang.com for more information.:)
Chris...
Shayna

Chicago, IL

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#828
Sep 25, 2012
 
This sounds like the "purgatory house in St. Joe County Michigan. I wish I could have seen the house before it burned. Do you have pics?
llbryant84 wrote:
Over 30 yrs ago I was in a house I think was supposed to be one of Capone's hideouts but I don't remember where it was. It was pretty remote..there was a creek with a small dam and power plant for their own electricity. The second story had a porch that wrapped around the entire house and all of the rooms were connected by doors. I remember being told that having connected rooms meant Capone could never be cornered. Seems like there was a small body of water behind the house. Does this sound like any of the houses being discussed here? I'm wondering if this was the place in St. Joe county?

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DOES IT FREAKIN' MATTER..How many of this GIMMEEA generation CARES about Al Capone's house..WHEN they are in the library..eyeing the vending machine..as to WHAT will satisfy them..it AIN'T of interest to them, this article...it's ONLY about WHAT THE FREAK they need to study to graduate and GET THE FREAK outta their parents house..
Kim Wolford

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#830
Sep 26, 2012
 
CEO wrote:
JPL,
I think I remember that home... It's on the St. Joseph River by Memorial hospital and Berrien Hills Country Club. The bluff is very high and near the river is an old brick out building set into the hillside (small) with a steel door. When the door was open we could see steps inside leading up the hill.
I used to live across the street from the house you mention. You appear to be one of the kids I played with!!!
Kim Wolford

Brandon, MS

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Sep 26, 2012
 
DavidSJ wrote:
The house on the river was owned by friends of mine growing up as a teen in the 1980'2 by the Gersonde Family. There was indeed a double door that led down to the river. There was a v shaped concrete shoot going down to the river where they would push a boat down for escape. In the basement was a boat rack with a winch and the boat could be winched up the hill back into the basement. The spiral staircases in the house all had different step hieghts so if you knew the opatterns you could easily go up an down with no issues, if you didn't you almost certainly fell
I used to live across the street from this house whne I was young. I believe there was also a Frank Lloyd Wright house on the cul-de-sac also. The Capone mansion was really beautiful too. There was a secret hiding place behind one of the bookcases on the second floor.
Kim Wolford

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Sep 26, 2012
 
Kim Wolford wrote:
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I used to live across the street from the house you mention. You appear to be one of the kids I played with!!!

After much searching, I found the house in St. Joe. It is on Highland Ct., across the street from the Carl E. Schultz House. Mr. and Mrs. Schultz lived there when I did. But it appears that part of the Capone house's lot has been subdivided and the beautiful gates are gone. But I think the main house is still there. Does anyone know about this house??
Scott allen

Kinder, LA

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#833
Sep 29, 2012
 
This is wild. ive been to that house. Mohamad Ali lived there. He won a boat and I delivered it to him around 1982.strange place.
Charlotte

Gaines, MI

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Oct 7, 2012
 
seeking truth wrote:
It has been rumored that Al Capone also stayed in a Hotel called the Old Yellow Motel there were underground tunnels and rumored that many dealing had been done in said tunnels, The Hotel is now burned down and only things left are the old tennis courts, this was located in Allegan County in the Allegan Forest I believe on 110th st, its a very sacluded area and perfect place if someone of his stature would stay! If anyone has any info on this please respond!!!
There was a house and people called it the "Old Yellow motel" but it was owned by Alene Rouche. It was passed down to her from her father. It was a hunting club back in the day of capone. She has sinced passed but told us that capone did visit but that was it. There is a tennis court but no under ground tunnels....only tunnel there is a cement tunnel that led to a stream. no person could fit in it. We live 2 minutes from there and had exclusive walk throughs of the house and guest house before it burned.

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