Beach access limits hit nerve

Beach access limits hit nerve

There are 102 comments on the The Honolulu Advertiser story from Feb 3, 2008, titled Beach access limits hit nerve. In it, The Honolulu Advertiser reports that:

Rich Figel, a co-founder of Beach Access Hawai'i, addresses the crowd at a rally at the State Capitol where people spoke of the increasing obstacles to beach access.

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Karen Teele

Oceanside, CA

#2 Feb 3, 2008
It is a surprise to me to know that someone is getting away with putting up a fence on a public access.(kind of like the developers "blading" 7000 acres of natural desert cactus and desert turtle habitat, in the middle of the night. This is in Tucson, BUT?) I just wonder where the "LAW" :+) is?

Honolulu, HI

#3 Feb 3, 2008
The wealthy can't own everything.

"People with a local spirit and local attitudes have been displaced by people from the Mainland who know nothing about it," he said.

Damn straight!

Another related issue I'd like to see settled involves access to trailheads in certain valleys on O'ahu that have recently been privatized and cutoff.
Proud Teacher

Honolulu, HI

#4 Feb 3, 2008
Not only the gates, but there should be blue signs posting "Public Access to Beach" so we know where the access is.

United States

#5 Feb 3, 2008
Jay wrote:
The wealthy can't own everything.
"People with a local spirit and local attitudes have been displaced ...
some local attitudes need serious displacement Jay

the days of self-reliance and sticking together as a team are waning

now local means welfare and complaining about what you guys are doing to us guys

your complaint plays right into the corruption of true local values

Mililani, HI

#7 Feb 3, 2008
[QUOTE) I just wonder where the "LAW" :+) is?[/QUOTE]

What Law? The City and Counting refuse to enforce beach access. Go to any of the rich beach communities and try to walk to the beach. All the points are locked with threatening signs. The ones that aren't use a different tactic. THEY POST THEIR ADRESS ON PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY OR COVER WITH VEGETATION.

Sick of this $****

Winchester, KY

#8 Feb 3, 2008
I'm relatively new to the islands, but I'm amazed that there is any blockage to beaches on Oahu.

Necessary military facilities, sewages, etc., might be a reasonable exception.

Private housing? No way.

They should all be confiscated by the state, raized and turned into public parks.

One would think native Hawaiians would have first right to access to the beach.

Tourist don't come here to gaze upon the back doors of million dollar houses.

Las Vegas, NV

#9 Feb 3, 2008
Do they do it because they think they own the beach in front of their homes or are they doing it because of vandalism? I've seen some pretty heavily vandalized homes in kahala so I'm thinking it's a little of both.

Winchester, KY

#10 Feb 3, 2008
Remove the houses to behind the highways. Then let them build their high fences, walls and gates.
Vandalism ought to stop on the beach when there is nothing there to vandalize. Duh!

Honolulu, HI

#11 Feb 3, 2008
Greg wrote:
Remove the houses to behind the highways. Then let them build their high fences, walls and gates.
Vandalism ought to stop on the beach when there is nothing there to vandalize. Duh!
You have got to be kidding me.
Caroline Kailua


#12 Feb 3, 2008
Vandalism is not unique just to those who live on the beach. I have been broken into and robbed twice in Kailua, yet I cannot gate off my street. Everyone is affected by noise, traffic, and crime, not just the rich beach front homeowners. To deny people access to the public beach through a designated path is elitist and selfish. This is not "trespassing" through their yards. If they feel so strongly about protecting their area at night, let them lock a gate at night only but keep it open during the day. That beach belongs to everyone and accesses to it should be open and with reasonable distances between them. It is very disconcerting to see Hawaii become so much like California these days. It's heartbreaking to see the gradual destruction of aloha and community and I believe so much of this mentality comes from the "gated communtiy" attitude.
Think about it


#13 Feb 3, 2008
The people that put up the Lanikai and Kailua gates barring access to the beaches are the same ones that want to bar visitors from staying in Kailua and Lanikai vacation rentals. Think about it.

Winchester, KY

#14 Feb 3, 2008
With respect to vandalism, I was refering only to the beach area.

Of course there ought not be vandalism anywhere, but the topic here is the beach.

Nor do I need to kid anybody. Most folk do a mighty fine job of this all by themselves.

Consider the beaches 100 years from now, or sooner when our population is several million. Are we still going to be dealing with this problem?
Caroline Kailua


#15 Feb 3, 2008
Responding to Greg about referring only to beach vandalism: When these people buy beachfront property, they know full and well that they are buying a house which sits smack on a public beach and that there has to be access to that beach. When I live in a house on the main road in Kailua, I, too, know full and well that I am going to have to contend with the noise and traffic that passes my house all day and night. That's part of the package. I do not have the right to close that street off. In regards to people saying those are private roads and they can do that, I ask, are my tax dollars paying for their street lights, trash pickup, fire hydrants, paving,etc? This is an issue that, to answer your question, yes, we WILL be dealing with years from now until there is a resolution. As we can all see, enough people feel strongly about having their access taken away and, regarding the issue of crime, are the beach front homeowners TRULY experiencing more crime than the rest of us? I doubt it. Those statistics could easily be researched with the police dept.

Las Vegas, NV

#16 Feb 3, 2008
The people that want beach access has to police themselves first. Used condoms and beer bottles in your backyard are reasons why they want to close off access to the public. The cops try to chase away most of the people at night, but all you need to do is to be sly and bring a cooler and a few fishing poles and they will let you slide.

Ewa Beach, HI

#17 Feb 3, 2008
Whatever problems are associated with having a public right of way (vandalism, trash, noise) can be addressed without banning access. Reducing access jeopardizes so many things, including public safety.

If one buys property next to a public area, one must accept having to deal with the public. This is not a surprise; it literally comes with the territory. If the landowner isn't willing to do that.... there is an alternative: live elsewhere.

Winchester, KY

#18 Feb 3, 2008
Soon after I first got here, I caught the bus, went to the north shore, got off someplace and started walking toward what turned out to be Sunset Beach.

Along the way I wanted to see the shoreline, but there was nothing to see but a line of little houses blocking the view.

Eventually, I opened the front gate of one, walked across the front lawn, around the house, and then out the back gate and strolled across the sand to the beach.

This might not had been the kosher thing to do, but I didn't see any other way to get there.

Even so, I just don't feel all that bad about it.
Roxanne Darling

Honolulu, HI

#19 Feb 3, 2008
Mahalo for your coverage of this event William. We firmly believe that more access will mean that more of us will be able to keep the lanes safe, secure, and 'opala-free.

There are a few troublemakers throughout our neighborhoods, not just at the beach access points. Fire and Safety requires access too, and the gates are making it harder for them to do their jobs.

Together we can share the responsibility of keeping the access open for all to use, as the Supreme Court has repeatedly mandated.

Honolulu, HI

#20 Feb 3, 2008
Yes, I am opposed to preventing any access to kailua Beach. I will jump over any fence I please and will move right into any home of any arrogant beach house owner being rude. They are all need to heavily penalized and taxed much more heavily than they are.

Ewa Beach, HI

#21 Feb 3, 2008
Not long ago I had guests from another country stay with us for a week. I took them to Ko Olina to show them the pretty beach area and was turned away at the entrance gate because the parking lot was full. As far as I am concerned if the lot is full I will park on the street or anywhere I can find a spot. Access is not a privilage because you buy the property fronting the ocean, it is a right of everyone to have it!!,

Waipahu, HI

#22 Feb 3, 2008
Ever hear about truth in journalism? They forgot to tell you that Bob Moncrief was arrested yesterday for assault and battery. Is that the aloha spirit? Or a neighborhod bully?

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