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Critical letter writers should take a closer look at the working conditions on the Guam military buildup project before slinging the anti-union talking points at U.S. Rep.
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willie

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"Guam buildup needs union jobs"

Give me a break. "If you are OK housing our military in substandard facilities" I have seen a lot of union work and just because one is a member of a union there is no saying their work is any better than anyone elses....just more expensive and in the case of Guam using Hawaiian unionized labor, way, way more expensive.

You are wrong about the cost of living on Guam...it is much lower than Hawaii. Ask the former tuna packers. They were doing fine until Uncle Sam stuck his nose in and said the federal minimum wage now applies to Guam. Guess what, no more secure jobs because the plants shut down. The workers were fine with what they had.

You can tell Neil for me that he can quit handing out OUR money like it is his own personal piggy bank to repay all the favors the unions have given him over the years.
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"Hawaiians never murdered innocent Native Americans, Puerto Ricans, Filipinos and Cubans."

No, they murdered other Hawaiians.
willie

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Hesh - I think you got the words should and shall backwards in your letter. You "should" offer would imply you do not have to, you "shall" offer means you have no choice.

If you want to see overflowing trash cans just put vegan food out for the kids at school...even if it was the ONLY food offered many would still not eat it.
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Teachers putting themselves first
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Does the writer of this letter think teachers should work for nothing? I'm not a teacher but I don't think they should work for no pay. The DOE should have layoffs. Those teachers in administration positions at the DOE should be the first to let go. Teachers in the schools that are not in a classroom should be considered as well excluding guidance counselors and one principal and vice principal per school.
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Sure Eric, historical documents never tell lies or fantasies. You just keep on believing whatever you read. Didn't you know that Moses really parted the red sea? It actually happened, I tell ya. It did, it did!
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"Hawaiians never murdered innocent Native Americans, Puerto Ricans, Filipinos and Cubans."

That's right, Eric - but only because they didn't have the opportunity. King Kamehameha was content to murder thousands of fellow Native Hawaiians when he invaded and conquered Maui, Molokai, Lanai and Oahu. I guess that wasn't a case of "annexation" in your eyes. Maybe it was "liberation."

Fortunately for some people, Oahu was as far as Kamehameha got because he couldn't transport his army all the way to Kauai. I'm sure he would gladly have attacked and killed Puerto Ricans. Filipinos and Cubans if only he could have reached their homelands. You see, Eric, despite all the hoopla over Hokulea, the truth is that the Hawaiians of Kamehameha's time were not incredible navigators who roamed the vast Pacific ocean at will. They could barely get from one island to another. So Hawaiians didn't refrain from murdering all the people you name because Hawaiians were somehow more noble and humanitarian. Hawaiians couldn't murder anyone else because they were living in the stone age and were trapped on a small group of islands in the middle of the Pacific.

I'm sorry to have to break the news to you Eric but sooner or later Hawaii would have been annexed by one foreign power or another. I'm sure most of us are thankful that it was the United States and not some other colonial power like Portugal, France, Russia or Japan. The Americans and other Westerners brought all sorts of decidedly civilized institutions to Hawaii. Like the right to vote, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, a written language, gender equality and a modern legal system. Not to mention such niceties as electricity and plumbing. As much as you complain, Eric, I doubt you would want to go back in time 300 years and live in Hawaii the way it was before Western contact.

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"Teachers who are willing to walk away from their students one day per week just to avoid some layoffs are not really teachers at all. They lack dedication to their profession and don't belong in the presence of our children."

Except it was due to the administrators not the public school teachers

which shows how out of touch some so-called "organizations" are with public school teachers.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

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Captain Cookie wrote:
That's right, Eric - but only because they didn't have the opportunity. King Kamehameha was content to murder thousands of fellow Native Hawaiians when he invaded and conquered Maui, Molokai, Lanai and Oahu. I guess that wasn't a case of "annexation" in your eyes. Maybe it was "liberation."
Except Mr. Po'ohina was addressing inter-national issues as in between America and the Hawaiian Kingdom. You are referring to intra-national issues which is comparing apples with guava.

Kudos to Mr. Po'ohina for being one of the most intelligent and articulate writers... despite some people who have a reading comprehension problem.
Alan Cummings

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Scott wrote:
Sure Eric, historical documents never tell lies or fantasies. You just keep on believing whatever you read. Didn't you know that Moses really parted the red sea? It actually happened, I tell ya. It did, it did!
Scott,

Eric is 100% spot on. That spineless coward McKinley annexed Hawaii at the behest of Big Business(Sanford Dole and his friends). Sound Familiar? Yes, the U.s. did get a Naval Base at Pearl Harbor, but if Dole hadn't wanted the land for himself, what do you think would have happened? Dole was one of the big money cruds that put McKinley in office. This sort of crap has been going on for almost 200 years in our country. Don't you find it a BIT strange that Sanford Dole was the first territorial governor of Hawaii?
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does guam have an ala wai ?

i want to dump 3,000 gallons of raw sewage into it so it smells like my home... samoa
Islandboi

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Emilio Garilao is clearly a union rep who was told what to write in his letter. Trying to start a hate program against foreign workers. Hmmm, the same foreign workers who built the Petronis Twin Towers in Malaysia, the Burj Dubai, worlds tallest building, on and on an on. Nothing wrong with foreign workers as long as there is a professional construction company in charge as in used in the construction of these two buildings.(US Company led the twin towers project so no substandard work there.) Emilio Garilao failed to say Neil's plan would raise the construction cost aboout 10 Billion dollars of your tax dollars, money not in the plan or budget. Truth is Neil did this for his own political gain, he could care less about the people of Guam. Neil just wants to be Da Gov, a job he is not quailified for. Wake up people, you can see right through Neil. Ahhh, just another day in the Nei.
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willie wrote:
"Guam buildup needs union jobs"
Give me a break. "If you are OK housing our military in substandard facilities" I have seen a lot of union work and just because one is a member of a union there is no saying their work is any better than anyone elses....just more expensive and in the case of Guam using Hawaiian unionized labor, way, way more expensive.
You are wrong about the cost of living on Guam...it is much lower than Hawaii. Ask the former tuna packers. They were doing fine until Uncle Sam stuck his nose in and said the federal minimum wage now applies to Guam. Guess what, no more secure jobs because the plants shut down. The workers were fine with what they had.
You can tell Neil for me that he can quit handing out OUR money like it is his own personal piggy bank to repay all the favors the unions have given him over the years.
I think you're mixing up Guam and American Samoa.
Hawaii should be concerned. If Guam brings "laborers" in that are willing to live in tents and work without benefits and below minimum wage, those men will get used to English and a lot might follow (with their extended families) the Micronesians to Hawaii!
Islanboi sounds like a "local", with foreign roots.
Hawaii should not look down their nose at Guam and let it change more toward a 3rd world country standard of living. All this giant influx of men will be good for the strip clubs and massage parlors though.
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Alan Cummings wrote:
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Scott,
Eric is 100% spot on. That spineless coward McKinley annexed Hawaii at the behest of Big Business(Sanford Dole and his friends). Sound Familiar? Yes, the U.s. did get a Naval Base at Pearl Harbor, but if Dole hadn't wanted the land for himself, what do you think would have happened? Dole was one of the big money cruds that put McKinley in office. This sort of crap has been going on for almost 200 years in our country. Don't you find it a BIT strange that Sanford Dole was the first territorial governor of Hawaii?
Not so fast, Mr. Cummings.

The U.S. National Archives has a different version.

http://tinyurl.com/yfn86el

Also, let's be clear on something: The President of the United States CANNOT decide to annex land on his own. That is something the U.S. Congress must agree on FIRST!!
Hawaiian Republican

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According the U.S. National Archives:

"With the explosion of the U.S.S. Maine in February of 1898 signaling the start of the Spanish American War, establishing a mid-Pacific fueling station and naval base became a strategic imperative for the United States. The Hawaiian islands were the clear choice, and this time Congress moved to annex the Hawaiian islands by Joint Resolution, a process requiring only a simple majority in both houses of Congress. On July 12, 1898, the Joint Resolution passed and the Hawaiian islands were officially annexed by the United States."

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/haw...

So, let's dispose of the idea that President McKinley acted independently to annex Hawaii and did so only to "scratch the back" of a political supporter.
Fisherman

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Captain Cookie wrote:
"Hawaiians never murdered innocent Native Americans, Puerto Ricans, Filipinos and Cubans."
That's right, Eric - but only because they didn't have the opportunity. King Kamehameha was content to murder thousands of fellow Native Hawaiians when he invaded and conquered Maui, Molokai, Lanai and Oahu. I guess that wasn't a case of "annexation" in your eyes. Maybe it was "liberation."
Fortunately for some people, Oahu was as far as Kamehameha got because he couldn't transport his army all the way to Kauai. I'm sure he would gladly have attacked and killed Puerto Ricans. Filipinos and Cubans if only he could have reached their homelands. You see, Eric, despite all the hoopla over Hokulea, the truth is that the Hawaiians of Kamehameha's time were not incredible navigators who roamed the vast Pacific ocean at will. They could barely get from one island to another. So Hawaiians didn't refrain from murdering all the people you name because Hawaiians were somehow more noble and humanitarian. Hawaiians couldn't murder anyone else because they were living in the stone age and were trapped on a small group of islands in the middle of the Pacific.
I'm sorry to have to break the news to you Eric but sooner or later Hawaii would have been annexed by one foreign power or another. I'm sure most of us are thankful that it was the United States and not some other colonial power like Portugal, France, Russia or Japan. The Americans and other Westerners brought all sorts of decidedly civilized institutions to Hawaii. Like the right to vote, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, a written language, gender equality and a modern legal system. Not to mention such niceties as electricity and plumbing. As much as you complain, Eric, I doubt you would want to go back in time 300 years and live in Hawaii the way it was before Western contact.
At risk of hearing it from Lana, you left out Kaho'olawe. Hawaiians killed as many other Hawaiians as possible there, and lit it on fire!
Poor Kaho'olawe. Humans have always seemed set on trying to destroy it. I was over there last year, and there are still a LOT of "ordinances", even on the surface.
Weekly, if not daily, someone in here says something like, "send the homeless to Kaho'olawe", or "make it into another Vegas", or "sent the convicts to Kaho'olawe". I hope that attitude changes someday.

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

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Poohina says "Historical documents never fantasize and never tell lies."

That's why I am very proud to have placed on the internet about 100 photos of the letters of recognition de jure of the Republic of Hawaii. Those 20 nations Eric mentioned who had treaties with the Kingdom -- their emperors, kings, queens, and presidents all personally signed letters at the end of 1894 giving full diplomatic recognition to the Republic of Hawaii as the rightful successor government of Hawaii. Here's a link to the photos of those letters, because "Historical documents never fantasize and never tell lies."
http://tinyurl.com/4wtwdz
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Kyle Olsen,

Stewards and Dishwashers make twice what teachers make.

Any individual from Hawaii who choses to become a teacher puts the children before themselves.

It's only these mainland kook teachers who come to Hawaii to have their Ivy League education loans that are making out. They stick around until the government pays off their loans, then they are on their way back to the continent.
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Conklin is one of the few who dares to tell the truth. The marines who landed to protect the US Embassy did so legally and they neevr fired or poitned a gun at anyone. The Hawaiian Reopublic was recognized all over the world and hundreds of Hawaiians served in governmetn posts. Too many Trasks running aroundd reinventing history hoping for a handout.
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Fisherman wrote:
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I think you're mixing up Guam and American Samoa.
Yes you are right, I did. Thanks
coachrandy

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kyle olson,

you're entitled to your opinion, but it sounds like you're not speaking with all the information available to you. teachers are union members, can't get around that. any union will tell you to take a furlough before a paycut. teachers took a pay reduction, not a pay cut. yes, schools and students get hurt by it, so do teachers. lingle gave us the constraints to work with and we, i do teach, made the best of the situation for ourselves. deal with it. i have students i teach in 7th grade handling this adverse situation better than you and some of the others that write in on these editorials.

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