Interisland shipping showdown - Business

Interisland shipping showdown - Business

There are 37 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Apr 28, 2009, titled Interisland shipping showdown - Business. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Young Bros. filed a motion yesterday to intervene in Pasha Hawaii's application to the state Public Utilities Commission to start interisland ocean shipping services in the state.

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Since: Oct 08

Kaneohe, HI

#1 Apr 28, 2009
Great! More competition means better prices for consumers. Young Bros. has a lock on the market and provides lousy service because of it. This new company will help the local economy in the long run if Young Bros. doesn't tank the effort.

Honolulu, HI

#2 Apr 28, 2009
I agree
K KCow manua

Honolulu, HI

#3 Apr 28, 2009
i know think young bros ever made money for hei
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Kapaau, HI

#4 Apr 28, 2009
manoamakaainana wrote:
Great! More competition means better prices for consumers. Young Bros. has a lock on the market and provides lousy service because of it. This new company will help the local economy in the long run if Young Bros. doesn't tank the effort.
And many of the YB workers are arrogant and use abusive language towards their customers. Take away the YB monopoly for the good of the consumers.

Kapaau, HI

#5 Apr 28, 2009
Even though YB didn't file an objection with the PUC when the SuperFerry filed to begin business, YB was certainly behind the effort to end the SuperFerry's presence in Hawaii. Push the right buttons in the environmental community, legislature and in your own workforce and then you have a coalition that will defeat most businesses.
Pasha will probably face the same challenges as the SF.

Aiea, HI

#6 Apr 28, 2009
what no EIS

Wahiawa, HI

#7 Apr 28, 2009
Just tink of it. YB has only 12 sailings per week! The Hawaii Superferry scheduled DAILY runs to Maui, Big Island and Kauai and probably two per day to Maui. Over a week, that would be 28 sailings per week! More than double what YB can do with a larger fleet. That is why YB fought off the HSF and is now fighting off another competitor. Get with it, YB! Competition is what you need and you are probably the one that should be going out of business
Politically Savvy

Glen Ellyn, IL

#8 Apr 28, 2009
Young Brother is very well wired politically and there are a lot of folks that get big time bennies from being, uh, supportive of YB. The influence extends to Washington of course but that is done out of state through the Alaskan parent. Think of it...Alaska and Hawaii (who was the senator and who was his Hawaii BFF?)make for easy channeling of the goodies.

Pasha will get the kibosh but nothing dramatic, just wear them down with one more inspection, regulation, filing, negotiation, etc.

You don't mess with Young brothers. Just ask the Superferry guys.

Kailua, HI

#9 Apr 28, 2009
The SF saga is no where out of the loop yet. The SF will be back with two ships in the near future. You can bet on that.

Honolulu, HI

#10 Apr 28, 2009
huh wrote:
what no EIS
Yes - good point.

Honolulu, HI

#11 Apr 28, 2009
If YB is regulated by the PUC, then they will be able to make the same profit margin as Pasha.

All they need to do to be competitive is trim the fat and streamline their opporation.

Fear of competition is showing the inadquacies of your company.

Holualoa, HI

#12 Apr 28, 2009
Finally, this will set the competition just like the airlines. No company should monopolize services. This is the
best way for the consumer.
Go Figure

Mililani, HI

#13 Apr 28, 2009
Superferry gone and now YB attacks Pasha. Yesterday there were three cruise ships in ports in Maui and the Superferry was a problem? The laws should be equal for all shipping and cruise lines. either they all are required to have an EIS or none of them.
YES for Pasha

Sunnyvale, CA

#14 Apr 28, 2009
Young Brothers isn't getting any sympathy from me. They've been living in a monopoly for too long.
No crying for young brothers
Oahu Resident

Maunaloa, HI

#15 Apr 28, 2009
Young Brothers is admitting that Lanai and Molokai are being subsidized at the expense of Oahu, Hawaii, Maui, and Lanai residents.
This must stop.
Bring in Pasha and Young brothers will have to stop the subsidy by raising rates to Lanai and Molokai. At the same time, Oahu, Hawaii, Maui and Kauai will see lower rates.

Ewa Beach, HI

#16 Apr 28, 2009
YB needs to get Sierra Club to help it and say how the new shipping company need's an EIS and how the new company with hit whales. It worked for the Super Ferry. You just need to pay the Sierra Club more this time.

Since: Oct 08

Alameda, CA

#17 Apr 28, 2009
If YB is complaing about having to subsidize Lanai and Molokai, then they need to go to the state or federal government for assistance! Um... that's what Saltchuck does in Alaska... Oh Oh, I forgot, they own YB... oh oh, and they own Aloha Air Cargo... oh what a surprise!
Local Mom

Honolulu, HI

#18 Apr 28, 2009
Obviously ALOT of education will be needed:

1. PUC determines shipping rates. Business and their books will have to substantiate any rise and fall of pricing structure.

2. YB was not against SF, quite the contrary they could care less because that assisted them with the LCL (small shipping items). It was the Gov't and their stupidity to circumvent the LAW!

3. PUC allows YB and Matson to operate interisland if they do some at a loss and a plus. FOR THE GOOD OF ALL HAWAII. Cherry picking is not spreading out the loss that YB and Matson absorb to do interisland shipping to rural communities. Pasha is trying to do just that NOT SERVICIING ALL OF HAWAII.

4. If Pasha comes in then they should adhere to the same PUC guidelines profit and loss that the other 2 carriers have to incur due to PUC guidelines and regulation.

5. Matson and YB contribute to our local economy and communities, PASHA does not. They are non union and have no community here in Hawaii. They will be another hit and run.

6. Competition is unlikely since their shipping at best will be offered at best once a week to Maui or Kauai or Big Island and alternate because there is only 1 ship. Think the dock is crowded now try adding space for more then we'll see how grouchy and heated everyone becomes.

Honolulu, HI

#19 Apr 28, 2009
As an overburdened tax paying Hawaii citizen, I do not want to pure money into another Mainland outfit to do a wait and see approach and then they leave high and dry like the Super Ferry did. Who paying us Hawaii taxpaying citizens back for the harbor improvements MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SF $44million. Did everyone forget about that? I not willing to spend anymore money for any other company who has no ties and will not pay for any improvements for them to conduct business!
Organized thought process

Honolulu, HI

#20 Apr 28, 2009
Why in the world would you want YB to ask for goverment subsidy? Don't we subsidize too may other operations? If they not asking why are we suggesting?
Don't hate because SALTCHUK came to the rescue of my aloha air cargo job. I never see you willing to buy and turn our business around.
No wonder HEI sold YB, they could not make the huge profits because of PUC guidelines and the loss to service rural Hawaii communities. Doesn't that speak to the island commitment of this company? DUH....

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