State evicting airport-area firms

State evicting airport-area firms

There are 47 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Sep 9, 2008, titled State evicting airport-area firms. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

KAHULUI Ted Sniffen said he does not know where he will find another location for his trucking business, after receiving an eviction notice from the state to vacate the property by Dec.

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willie

Dubuque, IA

#1 Sep 9, 2008
Monthly lease, knew it was part of the master plan, knew it takes 6 months to get a building permit, yep, sounds like they are on island time to me.

Since: Jun 08

United States

#2 Sep 9, 2008
With air travel down and small business hurting everywhere, one wonders why the landlord chose this time to evict to expand the airport infrastructure.

Oh, yea, its the government!
Big J-Hawaii Kai

United States

#3 Sep 9, 2008
Isn't it obvious? The rental car agencies have offered the State more $$$. I agree with Kauai Guy, why is it with the slowing economy and travel down, the State chose NOW to evict those lesees? Is someone holding out their hand behind their back?
Cet

Fairbanks, AK

#4 Sep 9, 2008
When you lease, you knowingly take on the risk of eviction. Its not the government's job to manage your business - its your's.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#5 Sep 9, 2008
If the tenants were month to month and the airline business is slow then wouldn't it be a perfect time to do airport construction? Actually this is a good sign. It means there is hope.

I do understand how the small stores must feel, but this is just commons sense. The economy will turn around so now is the time to smell the flowers and take a rest. Don't look to the government for help as Hawaii has always been anti-small business. If you want the state to help you then Maine is the best place to go.

We are all in the same boat and you lasted longer than many of us.

Best wishes.
Tsarbomba

Corona, CA

#6 Sep 9, 2008
Now's a good time to start construction because with the downturn, there is less demand for contractors so the cost is in favor of the buyer.

If tenants had month to month, they shouldn't act surprised, month to month has its advantages and disadvantages.
manini

Kapaau, HI

#7 Sep 9, 2008
willie wrote:
Monthly lease, knew it was part of the master plan, knew it takes 6 months to get a building permit, yep, sounds like they are on island time to me.
So why didn't the state tell them earlier of its plans instead of creating a short fuse situation. There is not one owner who objects to moving, only the short notice.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#8 Sep 9, 2008
manini wrote:
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So why didn't the state tell them earlier of its plans instead of creating a short fuse situation. There is not one owner who objects to moving, only the short notice.
Because that is to easy.

You know better.:)
Island Boi

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#9 Sep 9, 2008
Cloucy and windy days in little third world Hawaii Nei. We are supposed to believe the state had a "Master Plan" since 1992, 16 years ago? Give me a break. The state complains when a business suddenly shuts down, evicting all the employees. But ok for the state to give short to no notice to a business. Don't do as I do, do as I say. I am the state, incapable of doing no wrong. Hey, we had a master plan. Yeah, right. My shibai meter is on overload again. Hold on to your hat, we will hear much more of this if and when rail construction work starts on Oahu. Oh yessss, just another day in the Nei.
willie

Plymouth, MI

#10 Sep 9, 2008
manini wrote:
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So why didn't the state tell them earlier of its plans instead of creating a short fuse situation. There is not one owner who objects to moving, only the short notice.
They could have given them 12 months notice and you would have STILL heard them say it was not enough.
DTC

Honolulu, HI

#11 Sep 9, 2008
Gotta agree with Von and willie. Some people refuse to see the writing on the wall.
WhatsGoingOn

Honolulu, HI

#12 Sep 9, 2008
The State has a group of "professionals" that go to businesses to help the laid-off employees when they loose their jobs, can't this group be rearranged to help businesses when big, mean, land owners kick tenants out?

Many businesses in Hawaii are working on reserves and will close in the next 12 months, their employee's, as will these businesses being kicked out, will require "State Help". Why not start helping now.

I foresee the land being reclaimed by the State will sit empty after tenants are kicked out, when there is no money available to re-model. It's the government way of doing business! Look at Koapaka Street next to the Honolulu Airport, hundreds were kicked out there and it's now over ten years and nothing has been used.
wacko

Wahiawa, HI

#13 Sep 9, 2008
Fact of life, if you are on a month to month contract... you can be moved out with the proper notice. They should have start looking around if they were on a month to month contract.

It doen't matter if the economy is up or down, you just have to abide by the contract. It appears they have been given sufficient notice and as a property owner, I say vacate.

In business, no mercy is shown. Business is business. I say move em out,
Dman

San Diego, CA

#14 Sep 9, 2008
They need it for aviation, sounds like they need it for more CARS, wow just what Maui needs. Maui Tourism is down so much that they need to rethink these terrible plans to displace business in these tough times, great move state of Maui.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#15 Sep 9, 2008
WhatsGoingOn wrote:
The State has a group of "professionals" that go to businesses to help the laid-off employees when they loose their jobs, can't this group be rearranged to help businesses when big, mean, land owners kick tenants out?
Many businesses in Hawaii are working on reserves and will close in the next 12 months, their employee's, as will these businesses being kicked out, will require "State Help". Why not start helping now.
I foresee the land being reclaimed by the State will sit empty after tenants are kicked out, when there is no money available to re-model. It's the government way of doing business! Look at Koapaka Street next to the Honolulu Airport, hundreds were kicked out there and it's now over ten years and nothing has been used.
None of that helps the self-employed.

Many people that have a business are also self-employed.
Brown man

Kaneohe, HI

#16 Sep 9, 2008
The businesses knew that this was coming so now its time to go.
Part Hawaiian From Maui

Washington, DC

#17 Sep 9, 2008
I never expected Maui to become so large in population that the airport has to expand. It's been a long time since I've lived on Maui, I can't imagine the shock of when I return. Which is the next island to become a booming population center? When does enough houses and traffic become enough?
buckr808

Honolulu, HI

#18 Sep 9, 2008
manini wrote:
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So why didn't the state tell them earlier of its plans instead of creating a short fuse situation. There is not one owner who objects to moving, only the short notice.
It's always someone else's fault, in this case the state. The business owners are to blame for not having the foresight to find another space to locate. There are three types of people in this world:

1. People that make things happen.
2. People that let things happen.
3. People that say, "What the hell just happened?"

Be a man or woman and accept the blame. In a downturned economy do what you need to do to survive as a business, but don't blame anyone else.
The Watchman

Wahiawa, HI

#19 Sep 9, 2008
Again government stands back and allows for small business to suffer. Oh Yea, the Legislators will cry out when it's too late. With fuel costs and other alternatives for travel being developed, Maui does not need more aviation.
maikaiman

Portland, OR

#20 Sep 9, 2008
Isn't it great to be a small business on Maui!! I've been there,done that on Maui. It's a bitch doing biz on that island. Think it's slow on Maui now?..You haven't seen anythin yet!!!

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