Why Unions SUCK!!!
so sad

Junction City, KS

#171 May 24, 2014
Democrats R Jackasses wrote:
It's both funny and sad how, when confronted with truth, citation, quotes and fact, the Democrats first response is to attack the messenger or to find any way to be insulting. It's easier for the uninformed and poorly educated to debate this way.
Could it be that public school education hasn't been favorable to it's supporters?
Or could it be that the Union teachers failed to educate?
Or is it simply that these Democratic sheep haven't been able to get any legitimate talking points to obfuscate the truth?
One certainly wonders.
try presenting some truth and fact and you'll see that we don't attack the messenger. Now present the "Citation" and "quotes" from right wing bloggers and legislators who literally make things up as they go along that has no resemblance to truth and fact - then we have a tendency to stand up for what's right.

This might help you though -

fact
noun \ˈfakt\

: something that truly exists or happens : something that has actual existence

: a true piece of information

We don't see a lot of this coming from the far right - which unfortunately has taken over the Republican party.
J Hawkins

Junction City, KS

#172 May 24, 2014
Unions are ruining public education: Every few years, it's the same old story. The teachers’ unions claim that public education in this country is dramatically underfunded and if they just had more money, they could turn it around. Taxpayer money then pours into our schools like a waterfall and....there's no improvement. A few years later, when people have forgotten the last spending spree on education, the process is repeated.

However, the real problem with our education system in this country is the teachers’ unions. They do everything possible to prevent schools not only from firing lousy teachers, but also from rewarding talented teachers. Merit pay? The unions hate it. Private schools? Even though everyone knows they deliver a better education than our public schools, unions fight to keep as many kids as possible locked in failing public schools. In Wisconsin, we've had whole schools shutting down so that lazy teachers can waste their time protesting on the taxpayers’ dime. Want to improve education in this country? Then you've got to take on the teachers’ unions.

Let's put it plain and simple: Government workers shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Period.

Why?

Because you elect representatives to look out for your interests.

It's obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job. However, because the Democratic Party and the unions are in bed with each other, this entire process has been turned on its ear. Instead of looking out for your interests, Democrats try to hire as many government workers as possible, pay them as much as possible, and give them benefits that are as generous as possible, all so that union workers will do more to get them re-elected.

In other words, the Democratic Party and the unions are engaged in an open conspiracy to defraud the American taxpayer. There's no way that the American people should allow that to continue.
Jack Robertson

Junction City, KS

#173 May 24, 2014
We can abolish unions if the Right will agree to end corporate welfare , stop subsidizing Big Business , Big Oil , and Big Pharmacy , rein in Wall Street , prosecute white collar crime , do away with golden parachutes , cap CEO compensation packages , end the failed "War on Drugs" , raise the minimum wage , and legalize , tax , and regulate marijuana , and start drafting the 1 % er`s kids into military service and sending them to war alongside the working class sons and daughters . THEN we can abolish unions in this country . Fair enough ?
J Hawkins

Junction City, KS

#174 May 24, 2014
Government unions have bled billions from taxpayers nationally, but the damage they're doing on the local level is even worse. We have cities and states all across the country that are so behind on their bills that there have been genuine discussions about bankruptcy. There are a lot of irresponsible financial policies that have helped contribute to that sorry state-of-affairs, but unquestionably, the biggest backbreakers can be directly traced back to the unions.

As the Washington Times has noted, union pensions are crushing budgets all across the country.

"Yet it comes as little surprise that the same profligacy that pervades the corridors of federal power infects this country’s 87,000 state, county and municipal governments and school districts. By 2013, the amount of retirement money promised to employees of these public entities will exceed cash on hand by more than a trillion dollars."

So, what happens when these pensions can't be paid? They will come to the taxpayers with their hands out. When they stroll forward with their beggar's bowl in hand, the American people should keep their wallets in their pockets. That may not seem fair, but the public sector union members have gotten a great deal at everyone else's expense for a long time and if somebody has to take a haircut, and they do, it should be the union members instead of the taxpayers they've been bilking for so long.
Jack Robertson

Junction City, KS

#175 May 24, 2014
So , according to J Hawkins , unions are the reason JC is $200 million in debt . LMAO !!!
rePete

Junction City, KS

#176 May 24, 2014
Jack Robertson wrote:
So , according to J Hawkins , unions are the reason JC is $200 million in debt . LMAO !!!
The Democrats first response is to attack the messenger or to find any way to be insulting. It's easier for the uninformed and poorly educated to debate this way.

Could it be that public school education hasn't been favorable to it's supporters?

Or could it be that the Union teachers failed to educate?

Or is it simply that these Democratic sheep haven't been able to get any legitimate talking points to obfuscate the truth?

One certainly wonders.
Bipartisan compromise

Junction City, KS

#177 May 24, 2014
See post # 173 . Again , what`s not fair about those proposals ?
Farmers Market

Junction City, KS

#178 May 24, 2014
Bipartisan compromise wrote:
See post # 173 . Again , what`s not fair about those proposals ?
Nothing wrong with any of them, except maybe the order of importance. Still, you are comparing an apple to a bushel of oranges.

Since: Oct 10

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#179 Jun 4, 2014
too funny needs a GED wrote:
Remember that the Nazi Party was actually Socialist
Actually, no, but I can understand how some of you reasoning challenged people like you might think so, since it does have that word in it, at least in our english translation of it.

But here's an inconvenient fact for you: in Australia, the conservative political part is named The Liberal Democratic Party.

As my old chemistry teacher used to say there's a difference between a red spool of thread and a spool of red thread.

Fact is, all political parties are "socialist" to some degree because they want a piece of the action. In that sense the British who created the state enterprises like "The British West India Company" and "Hudson's Bay Company" were socialists.

A volunteer fire department is socialism at its finest.

And the Democratic Party of the U.S. is the second most conservative political party in the world barring the racist parties.

What happened to Ted Nugent when he criticized Bamz? Two Secret Service agents paid a polite visit to him at his ranch, discussed his comments, and they shook hands with him and left, end of story. People shrugged and moved on/

Now contrast that to what happened to the Dixie Chicks after one of them criticized George W. Bush. One right-wing radio station contracted a highway roller to run over their CDs and they were ostracized by country music. No big loss, but it exemplified the mob rule and thuggery of the Rethuglican right wing and how it compares with nazis.
and, in all regards, more closely akin to the Democrat Party despite what the public school system teaches.
Bullmotherfarkingshit. Nazis put union leaders in concentration camps.
Nazi Party:
Practiced eugenics; removed the old, lame, and the unwanted (by them) for the good of society. Dismissed the idea of sending the unwanted somewhere else (letting them go to other countries).
Democrat Party:
Practice eugenics; removing the old (euthanasia), lame (Terry Schiavo), and the unwanted (by them)(abortion). Dismissed the idea of sending the unwanted somewhere else (letting them go to other families).
Ridiculous. There is no "euthenasia" going on in the U.S. whatsoever and your assertiion it is is a lie. Schiavo was already dead. Having "unwanted" go somewhere else? With Rhodesia gone and south Africa under majority rule there is no place for right-wingers to go except maybe Russia. But that Cyrillic alphabet is going to be hard to learn with its ten extra letters. But you right-wingers can go there right now. I'd even be in favor of spending government funds to buy you one-way tickets.

Since: Oct 10

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#180 Jun 4, 2014
Nazi Party:
Used movies to dehumanize the Jews, in preparation for societal attacks against them.( http://www.holocaust-history.org/der-ewige-ju... - "Papers presented on the Nazi propaganda film 'Der ewige Jude,' or 'The Eternal ... the Jews' ratlike behavior, while showing footage of rats squirming from ...")
Democrat Party:
Use movies to dehumanize1 the conservatives in preparation for societal attacks against them.(Michael Moore, George Clooney, et. al.)( http://www.google.com/search... )
Oh, please. "Dehumanize"? You mean like you scum do to minorities, LGBTs, and sexually active women? Clooney and Moore are paragons of chivalry compared with sleazeballs like your Karl Rove evilly speculating about HRC's brain functioning.
Nazi Party:
Jews were first deprived of their basic rights, and over the years of their possessions, freedom, human dignity and, finally, their lives ( http://web.israelinsider.com/
Articles/Briefs/7852.htm)
Democrat Party:
Conservatives will first be deprived of their basic rights
(1st amendment: http://www.heritage.org
/Research/Regulation/EM368.cfm )
(2nd amendment: http://www.bradycampaign.org/ ), and over the years...?
Lie, lie, lie....There's no deprivation of rights whatsoever. You mistake a right to free speech free from criticism to the constitutional right to free speech. You have the latter but you do not have the former nor will you ever.
I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry.
-Hillary Clinton
Sounds reasonable enough. Toys of the deranged shoulkd be registered.
If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.
-Joseph Stalin
If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.
-Pres. Obama
"By calling attention to a well regulated militia, the security of the nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of
our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason, I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.-- John F. Kennedy
finally a mishmash of non sequitur quotes irrelevant to the topic. Whine, whine, whine, as usual, Jerry.

Since: Oct 10

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#181 Jun 4, 2014
Jack Robertson wrote:
I`m impressed . Bob . You should have been the guest speaker at the St. X graduation , instead of just an audience member . ; )
That's an insult to the graduates, faculty, and parents of the graduates of St. X.

Since: Oct 10

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#182 Jun 4, 2014
Democrats R Jackasses wrote:
It's both funny and sad how, when confronted with truth, citation, quotes and fact, the Democrats first response is to attack the messenger or to find any way to be insulting. It's easier for the uninformed and poorly educated to debate this way.
Could it be that public school education hasn't been favorable to it's supporters?
Or could it be that the Union teachers failed to educate?
Or is it simply that these Democratic sheep haven't been able to get any legitimate talking points to obfuscate the truth?
One certainly wonders.
One non sequitur after another. Dale Gribble wrote this.

Since: Oct 10

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#183 Jun 4, 2014
J Hawkins wrote:
Unions are ruining public education: Every few years, it's the same old story. The teachers’ unions claim that public education in this country is dramatically underfunded and if they just had more money, they could turn it around. Taxpayer money then pours into our schools like a waterfall and....there's no improvement. A few years later, when people have forgotten the last spending spree on education, the process is repeated.
However, the real problem with our education system in this country is the teachers’ unions. They do everything possible to prevent schools not only from firing lousy teachers, but also from rewarding talented teachers. Merit pay? The unions hate it. Private schools? Even though everyone knows they deliver a better education than our public schools, unions fight to keep as many kids as possible locked in failing public schools. In Wisconsin, we've had whole schools shutting down so that lazy teachers can waste their time protesting on the taxpayers’ dime. Want to improve education in this country? Then you've got to take on the teachers’ unions.
Let's put it plain and simple: Government workers shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Period.
Why?
Because you elect representatives to look out for your interests.
It's obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job. However, because the Democratic Party and the unions are in bed with each other, this entire process has been turned on its ear. Instead of looking out for your interests, Democrats try to hire as many government workers as possible, pay them as much as possible, and give them benefits that are as generous as possible, all so that union workers will do more to get them re-elected.
In other words, the Democratic Party and the unions are engaged in an open conspiracy to defraud the American taxpayer. There's no way that the American people should allow that to continue.
Nothing here but assertions without evidence. What about how the Koch Brothers benefit from their relationships with Brownback? IOKIYAR (It's OK if you're a Republican)!

Since: Oct 10

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#184 Jun 4, 2014
J Hawkins wrote:
Government unions have bled billions from taxpayers nationally, but the damage they're doing on the local level is even worse. We have cities and states all across the country that are so behind on their bills that there have been genuine discussions about bankruptcy. There are a lot of irresponsible financial policies that have helped contribute to that sorry state-of-affairs, but unquestionably, the biggest backbreakers can be directly traced back to the unions.
As the Washington Times has noted, union pensions are crushing budgets all across the country.
"Yet it comes as little surprise that the same profligacy that pervades the corridors of federal power infects this country’s 87,000 state, county and municipal governments and school districts. By 2013, the amount of retirement money promised to employees of these public entities will exceed cash on hand by more than a trillion dollars."
So, what happens when these pensions can't be paid? They will come to the taxpayers with their hands out. When they stroll forward with their beggar's bowl in hand, the American people should keep their wallets in their pockets. That may not seem fair, but the public sector union members have gotten a great deal at everyone else's expense for a long time and if somebody has to take a haircut, and they do, it should be the union members instead of the taxpayers they've been bilking for so long.
Washington Times + Rev. Sun Myung Moon's voice in D.C. IOW, propaganda.
Get Well Soon George

Junction City, KS

#185 Jun 4, 2014
Looks like you have a bad case of democrap diarrhea. Your kangaroo shit's running all over the website.
worst case scenario

Junction City, KS

#186 Jun 4, 2014
Get Well Soon George wrote:
Looks like you have a bad case of democrap diarrhea. Your kangaroo shit's running all over the website.
The green apple quick step beats the hell out of trembling , with blood vessels popping out of your forehead , as you peruse an April 2004 issue of Maxim with sticky pages , on the company clock , and discover there`s no paper or air freshener and the stool is clogged .
Montezuma

Junction City, KS

#187 Jun 5, 2014
worst case scenario wrote:
<quoted text> The green apple quick step beats the hell out of trembling , with blood vessels popping out of your forehead , as you peruse an April 2004 issue of Maxim with sticky pages , on the company clock , and discover there`s no paper or air freshener and the stool is clogged .
Only someone who has survived such an ordeal could describe it so succinctly. Kudos to you, my stinky friend.(Survival hint: Keep a roll of Cottonelle in your locker next to your vodka.)

Since: Oct 10

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#188 Jul 29, 2014
worst case scenario wrote:
<quoted text> The green apple quick step beats the hell out of trembling , with blood vessels popping out of your forehead , as you peruse an April 2004 issue of Maxim with sticky pages , on the company clock , and discover there`s no paper or air freshener and the stool is clogged .
not

Maxim? Kangaroo not aroused by skinny chicks, sorry. I may be old and the pipes worn but that's not a time I multitask, either. I'm reading Orange is the new Black for the narrative. Even though my kid is in the cast her character hasn't appeared in the book yet.
uh huh

Junction City, KS

#189 Jul 29, 2014
The Kangaroo wrote:
<quoted text>not
Maxim? Kangaroo not aroused by skinny chicks, sorry. I may be old and the pipes worn but that's not a time I multitask, either. I'm reading Orange is the new Black for the narrative. Even though my kid is in the cast her character hasn't appeared in the book yet.
Desperately seeking confrontation, our inept wallaby brings up a be narrative from 2 months back and shares with us more of his dull life.

(You have no kids, Roo. You...er... "raised" your nieces.)

Since: Oct 10

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#190 Jul 29, 2014
uh huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Desperately seeking confrontation, our inept wallaby brings up a be narrative from 2 months back and shares with us more of his dull life.
(You have no kids, Roo. You...er... "raised" your nieces.)
There are some things about me you don't know, Jerry.

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