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FELONS in KANSAS can VOTE and RUN FOR OFFICE

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“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#1 Apr 27, 2010
The Fourteenth Amendment clearly demonstrates that the states have the Constitutional authority to disenfranchise both currently incarcerated and former felons for as long as they deem fit.

In limiting the freedoms of convicted felons, incarceration is designed to punish inmates and impress upon them the magnitude of their crimes.

As a privilege to be enjoyed by law-abiding citizens, prohibiting inmates from voting further drives this point home.

Prohibiting former felons from voting for life ensures the integrity of the electoral process, especially in states and jurisdictions where the populace directly elects judges, law enforcement officers and district attorneys.

Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and Wyoming permanently prohibit voting rights for felons.

At the conclusion of 1998, an estimated 5.9 million people were incarcerated or serving parole throughout the entire U.S. criminal justice system.

Arizona and Maryland permanently disenfranchise felons after the conviction of a second offense.

KANSAS however, is soft on CRIMINALS.

Once McWunder gets out of jail...and completes his parole/probation...completely. ..

...he'll be able to VOTE and RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN!

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS CRAP?

Check out this website..." www.PROCON.org "

Dedicated to helping the WORST PEOPLE IN SOCIETY get back INTO SOCIETY.

http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.p...

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#2 Apr 27, 2010
Ooops...I wrote Jail instead of Prison.

I should have written "Once McWunder gets back from band-camp".
concerned

Burlingame, KS

#3 Apr 27, 2010
I am sure I will be bashed for posting on Topix but I do read what people say and refrain from saying things because honestly some people just say mean things to try and make anyone with an opinion different than their own feel bad and to me that just seems uncalled for but anyway here goes my two cents.

I believe in the death penalty for many crimes, like child molesting and cold blooded murder etc. I think the criminal justice system is extremely flawed especially in Kansas other states also but...
I recently found myself in a situation where my 19 year old son got himself into trouble with the law, he and a couple of other young people did something really stupid. It was not a violent crime but a retalliation crime and yes I left him in jail because I felt like he needed to learn a lesson. All the kids knew each other and the victims had actually ripped them off first and rightly admit so. I do not agree with the fact that these kids thought it was ok to go steal back what was taken from them but none the less they attempted to do that and got caught. As I said I left him in jail.
My son will now be a felon, he is a good kid that was stupid, he was productive in society up until that point. Going to college, working full time etc. The victims admit to what they did first yet the court system has decided that years in prison is what his punishment will be. My son will finish his growing up in a prison with hardened criminals. Some of you will say oh well he deserves it, maybe he does. I do believe in consequences for your actions and I stand by that. But at what point have you served your time and the punishment end? Is it forever just because you were a stupid kid at one point in your life? Do you ever get the chance to redeem yourself and move forward? I know I am a hypocrit because I do not think Mick Wunder should ever be allowed to be in public office again, he voilated the peoples trust. Should he ever be allowed to vote again? I donít know. But from where I am sitting Kansas is not soft on crime just because they allow someone to vote. I hope my son will be able to vote again one day and be able to have served his time and move on instead of being punished the rest of his life for something he did when he was 19. Just my thoughts
Bill

Wichita, KS

#4 Apr 27, 2010
Everyone hates you Jerry.
to concerned

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Apr 27, 2010
I completely agree with you! normally kansas is not soft at all on crime!!!! but white collar crime is looked at differently. for example mike wunder and the judge that got convicted of taking bribes and now lives in topeka on probation!!!
Common thread

Junction City, KS

#6 Apr 27, 2010
Statistics show the overwhelming majority of convicted white collar criminals, prosecutors, and judges are registered Republicans. That would help to explain this paradox. Yes, Jerry, Mick is a Democrat turn-coat, and I didn`t say "all", just the vast majority. Birds of a feather stick together.....

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#7 Apr 27, 2010
Bill wrote:
Everyone hates you Jerry.
Hiya Bill,

It's me...Jerry.

I'm sorry...but I have scoured every available resource I could possibly think of...

...and I can't find a single "Bill" or anyone from "Wichita, KS" that has been duly appointed to speak for "Everyone".

I have found Bill Miller's Radio Show...

Bill of Rights...

Bill (2007 Movie)...

Bill Gates - Wikipedia entry...

Bill Clinton - Wikipedia entry (eeewww)...

Bill Hicks on Marketing...

Kill Bill (Vols 1 & 2)...

...but no "Bill" who speaks for "Everyone".

Could you help me refine my search?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....?
Gomer Pyle

Junction City, KS

#8 Apr 27, 2010
Everbody hates me, Joker......They don`t hate you, Leonard, you just keep screwing up.

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#9 Apr 27, 2010
concerned wrote:
I am sure I will be bashed for posting on Topix but I do read what people say and refrain from saying things because honestly some people just say mean things to try and make anyone with an opinion different than their own feel bad and to me that just seems uncalled for but anyway here goes my two cents.
I believe in the death penalty for many crimes, like child molesting and cold blooded murder etc. I think the criminal justice system is extremely flawed especially in Kansas other states also but...
I recently found myself in a situation where my 19 year old son got himself into trouble with the law, he and a couple of other young people did something really stupid. It was not a violent crime but a retalliation crime and yes I left him in jail because I felt like he needed to learn a lesson. All the kids knew each other and the victims had actually ripped them off first and rightly admit so. I do not agree with the fact that these kids thought it was ok to go steal back what was taken from them but none the less they attempted to do that and got caught. As I said I left him in jail.
My son will now be a felon, he is a good kid that was stupid, he was productive in society up until that point. Going to college, working full time etc. The victims admit to what they did first yet the court system has decided that years in prison is what his punishment will be. My son will finish his growing up in a prison with hardened criminals. Some of you will say oh well he deserves it, maybe he does. I do believe in consequences for your actions and I stand by that. But at what point have you served your time and the punishment end? Is it forever just because you were a stupid kid at one point in your life? Do you ever get the chance to redeem yourself and move forward? I know I am a hypocrit because I do not think Mick Wunder should ever be allowed to be in public office again, he voilated the peoples trust. Should he ever be allowed to vote again? I donít know. But from where I am sitting Kansas is not soft on crime just because they allow someone to vote. I hope my son will be able to vote again one day and be able to have served his time and move on instead of being punished the rest of his life for something he did when he was 19. Just my thoughts
I see a huge separation between what you son was involved in as a 19 year old...

...and the MULTIPLE ILLEGAL actions of a TRUSTED, ELECTED ADULT.

That being said...

Several posts about Mick and his crimes have indicated that the poster believes felons lose their right to vote...in Kansas.

That is not the case.

Further...in Kansas...a convicted felon can serve his time...

...and then be allowed hold public office.

I find THAT amazing.

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#10 Apr 27, 2010
Common thread wrote:
Statistics show the overwhelming majority of convicted white collar criminals, prosecutors, and judges are registered Republicans. That would help to explain this paradox. Yes, Jerry, Mick is a Democrat turn-coat, and I didn`t say "all", just the vast majority. Birds of a feather stick together.....
There is a simple equation:

Most elected officials and captains of industry are white men.

Most powerful white men are Republican.

As are most Judges and prosecutors.

Most minimum security, "white collar" prisons are filled with Republican, white men...

...not because it's a racist situation...

...but because access to white collar crime situations.
Vote Em In

Junction City, KS

#11 Apr 27, 2010
Vote for felons! We love felons. And lesbians! Gotta love this country, right Jerry?
Agreed

Junction City, KS

#12 Apr 27, 2010
Thanks, Jerry. My point exactly. You can see how darker,less pwerful individuals would be turned off by your party, if ONLY for THAT very reason. That`s why Scooter didn`t do time, and Cheney skated. You have to admit that much.
concerned

Burlingame, KS

#13 Apr 27, 2010
- Jerry - wrote:
<quoted text>
I see a huge separation between what you son was involved in as a 19 year old...
...and the MULTIPLE ILLEGAL actions of a TRUSTED, ELECTED ADULT.
That being said...
Several posts about Mick and his crimes have indicated that the poster believes felons lose their right to vote...in Kansas.
That is not the case.
Further...in Kansas...a convicted felon can serve his time...
...and then be allowed hold public office.
I find THAT amazing.
I totally agree that he should never be allowed to hold public office. He violated that position once and can never be trusted. I just dont think the right to vote once one has served his punishment should be denied. I did not know that in Kansas a felon could vote or be able to rip off the people he represented.

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#14 Apr 28, 2010
Agreed wrote:
Thanks, Jerry. My point exactly. You can see how darker,less pwerful individuals would be turned off by your party, if ONLY for THAT very reason. That`s why Scooter didn`t do time, and Cheney skated. You have to admit that much.
Well...again...while I lined out the simple equation...

...you would like to make this about race.

It's not.

It's about access and availability.

And the SAME justice system that judges all, judged Scooter and Cheney...

...but that would never satisfy you.

...just as I am unsatisfied and rail against the inequity of Micks sentence.

I can certainly understand WHY you think the way you do...

...but you have to replace BLAME with REASON.

The system (which I TOO BELIEVE IS FLAWED) IS the system.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS, IN THE REAL WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE, that more over 40, white, male Republicans commit White Collar Crimes.

Cousin Pookie isn't out there developing complex, computer zero-based fractional re-direction of public funds to a private account...

...he's selling rock and holding up the Quick Shop.

It's always less about COLOR and more about ACCESS.

...but that's not as easy to complain about.
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As for Minimum Security White Collar Prisons...

...first developed under the DEMOCRATIC leadership of both Roosevelt and Cleveland.

These were to be places for "NON-VIOLENT offenders" in the hopes separating the violent and non-violent...

...keeping the non-violent from BECOMING violent.

History has borne out that most of the white-collar, non-violent offenders have been older, wealthier White men...

...same then...same today...

It's a truth.

PERSONALLY...I think that we, as a country, should do away with Minimum Security Prisons altogether...

...IF PRISON IS A SCARY PLACE TO GO, LESS PEOPLE WILL BE WILLING TO RISK GOING THERE.

Just check out the stats from the other countries where there is NO separation of Maximum/Minimum security...and SWIFT punishment.

Less repeat offenders.

Less people per capita in prison.

Less crime.

We are just soft here.
Wow

Junction City, KS

#15 Apr 28, 2010
"Cousin Pookie" is selling rock and holding up the Quick Shop? And you accuse me of putting a racial spin on white-collar crime? All I said is people of color have difficulty embracing a Party that is so overwhelmingly the party of white-collar criminals. You`re insinuating only Black men sell crack and do robberies? If I had said that I`d be called a racist by you. Double standards, what drives the Elephant Party.

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#16 Apr 28, 2010
I understand how you miss the BIG PICTURE all the time.

"Cousin Pookie" is an Obamaism...



According to Obama...he's that relative you have to go dig up and motivate to vote.

It is truth that MORE YOUNG BLACK MALES are arrested for sales and trafficking of drugs and armed robbery.

I combined Obama's DEMOCRATIC euphemism with fact to make the point.

However...you STILL don't get it.

sigh...

ALL CRIME IS CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOUR OPPORTUNITY IS TO PERFORM WHITE COLLAR CRIME, THE ODDS ARE YOU ARE A MALE, WHITE AND OVER 40.

IF YOUR CRIME IS ARMED ROBBERY, DRUG SALES (Local Level) or THEFT...THE ODDS ARE YOU ARE A MALE, BLACK and UNDER 30.

Statistics...which have been borne out over the past 30 years.
Peter J

Junction City, KS

#17 Apr 28, 2010
- Jerry - wrote:
The Fourteenth Amendment clearly demonstrates that the states have the Constitutional authority to disenfranchise both currently incarcerated and former felons for as long as they deem fit.
In limiting the freedoms of convicted felons, incarceration is designed to punish inmates and impress upon them the magnitude of their crimes.
As a privilege to be enjoyed by law-abiding citizens, prohibiting inmates from voting further drives this point home.
Prohibiting former felons from voting for life ensures the integrity of the electoral process, especially in states and jurisdictions where the populace directly elects judges, law enforcement officers and district attorneys.
Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and Wyoming permanently prohibit voting rights for felons.
At the conclusion of 1998, an estimated 5.9 million people were incarcerated or serving parole throughout the entire U.S. criminal justice system.
Arizona and Maryland permanently disenfranchise felons after the conviction of a second offense.
KANSAS however, is soft on CRIMINALS.
Once McWunder gets out of jail...and completes his parole/probation...completely. ..
...he'll be able to VOTE and RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN!
CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS CRAP?
Check out this website..." www.PROCON.org "
Dedicated to helping the WORST PEOPLE IN SOCIETY get back INTO SOCIETY.
http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.p...
Wow, you really need to get a life it is a little strange that you spend so much time focusing on this Wunder character, you see a bit obsessed. Being so Negative is not so healthy dude.

“People HATE the TRUTH!”

Since: Apr 10

Junction City, Kansas

#18 Apr 29, 2010
Peter J wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you really need to get a life it is a little strange that you spend so much time focusing on this Wunder character, you see a bit obsessed. Being so Negative is not so healthy dude.
Thanks for your concern, Peter.

Have a great day.
Meamoi

Shawnee, KS

#19 Jun 9, 2011
Nice to see Kansas is doing something right.

Probably the best people to understand what needs to be fixed on the system are those who know where it can go wrong.
Jerry is real

Junction City, KS

#20 Jun 10, 2011
Any body who doubts the existence of Jerry should read this thread, and note the similarities in his writings under various other names. Of course, he`ll deny it. Yup, Jerry vanished into thin air.

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