Faith Tabernacle
ftabmember

Denver, CO

#2120 Sep 11, 2012
Wafer wrote:
I gotta say, there's a hurting congregation, Ftabmember adds insult to injury with some very ugly comments, and when rebuked responds with "go get counseling." Where is this church of yours where the loves flows so freely, Tab??? Your brand of Christianity is a turn off to even me.
Up to now I was impressed with some of your points. But come on, is this empathy to you?
This is an open opportunity for those of us who name the name of Christ to support and reach out to these people. Not with judgement and name calling. How could we possibly win one person with that?
Statistically speaking if we haven't been in their shoes already we will be one day. Just sayin'.
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My sympathetic post addressed the part of the congregation that recognizes that what their leadership did was cultish on the one hand and cruel on the other. These few folks will hopefully think twice about being in this kind of assembly to begin with, as it only creates the perfect environment for abuse on every level. The 'pastors' have no accountablility whatsoever and that's because they're worshipped as gods who are there to serve themselves and whip (or should I say scream) their sheeple into shape.

All the drama needs to stop. I know drama is a key element of these churches but it's time to find a church that is more concerned with preparing its people to go out and witness to a lost world. The people just don't need any more self-serving indoctrinatiion, instead, they need a pastor who preaches 'the whole counsel of God', which the Apostle Paul proclaimed he did not fail to preach to the people.

God knows we don't need any more secluded cults that separate themselves in every way from the communities they live in. We need Christians who know the difference between righteousness and self-righteousness. Christians who know how to humbly win souls for Jesus.

It takes great faith and a lot of courage to go find a good church, and these days they may be few and far between, but they're out there, and these people need a church that's happy and healthy and cares more for God and a lost world than for pleasing a self-serving man. May God help them.

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Whatever

London, KY

#2121 Sep 11, 2012
hmm wrote:
There's quite a few folks that just happen to message this topic from Olney, Illinois. Maybe it's the same person?
Yep he's a pure 100 percent dufus! In a cult of some sort I'm sure........even if it's a man band Tuggie Cult.
Whatever

London, KY

#2122 Sep 11, 2012
"one" man band that is
Rastous

Olney, IL

#2123 Sep 11, 2012
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep he's a pure 100 percent dufus! In a cult of some sort I'm sure........even if it's a man band Tuggie Cult.
I'm a member of the country club. Country music is what I love.

Woo-Hoo!
sincerely

Junction City, KS

#2125 Sep 12, 2012
Meanwhile Jordan was pokin little boys in the pooper while Edwin was raping underage girls.

Hail glory!
Newcastle

Junction City, KS

#2126 Sep 12, 2012
Why would anyone be surprised by the goings on at FT, after all the city swallowed the kool aid given by Barnes, Roades, and Wunder. Ft is just a smaller version of the dumbed down community that you live in. When you read Topics you see just how stupid this place you are living in really is. I am sure more shocks will come to this cesspool.
sexy Goddess

Junction City, KS

#2128 Sep 12, 2012
It all will prevail itself in the end. Jordan is guilty, his family is guilty the church family and all of the followers are guilty as well. My hats go off to Tim Brown- chief of police and the FBI and the KBI as well as Lindsey! Just crack the case so our town can begin it's healing process. Keep that molester behind bars and for those of you on here talking about I don't know what I'm talking about and need to shut up, you will swallow them words in the end because you don't know if I have a child involved or not! I can start naming names on here but, the giulty that has done all the dirt in the dark are being exposed to the light and the show must go on....
and to the lady that call herself responding to me, you are messy and brainwashed just like the others. You probably are a x-member who was touched too! so I pray for you.
Newcastle

Junction City, KS

#2129 Sep 12, 2012
Lol, yes I live in the area, but when my job is done, I am gone. Where you will be here forever with no place to go.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#2132 Sep 12, 2012
I find it funny how after FT just got raped (literally), they were so eager to accept a new Pastor. No praying about it or anything? Wow. Forget "wath and pray."
ftabmember

Denver, CO

#2133 Sep 12, 2012
Whoops there it is wrote:
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So I hear that Dudley is telling people that they are nothing without a prayer life. Hmmmm sounds familiar beating people up with negativity instead of leading them with positive reinforcement. When will people learn that running others down is not a good motivator. So sad!!!!
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You've hit the nail on the head. All false churches and cults major in sin and negativity. Although it keeps the congregations submitting and depressed, at the same time it serves to make them self-righteous so they can't identify with anyone but other cult members.

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Steamboat

United States

#2134 Sep 12, 2012
JOHN 3:16
Whatever

Mount Vernon, KY

#2135 Sep 12, 2012
Steamboat wrote:
JOHN 3:16
I John 3:16
CarolinaFathead

Cleveland, OH

#2136 Sep 13, 2012
Whoop there it is wrote:
I know of a Pastor whom Bro. Dudley is in fellowship with told one of the people who attended the church he was pastoring that he did not have the right to make a decision to leave his church to go to another church. He told him this is not like America where we have freedom of choice to do things. See some people close their eyes to reality because they love these men and love thinks no evil about the one whom they love. So arguing with them is fruitless we need to pray for these confused and misguided ones. Their are some really good Apostolic men out there who don't believe in being control freaks but who lead in love and kindness and respect the people in the church they Pastor.
Westberg used to say a tree can't uproot itself and move. It stayed where it was planted. Stupid stupid analogy but it goes to the heart of the matter of why these oneness pastors are so militant about their members leaving and try to guilt them into stayin through intimidation and fear. It's the tithes. Each member is money in the pocket of the pastor. Don't mess with the man of God's income or you will goto hell. It's obscene. The tithes are another reason "sheep stealing" pastors are blasted from pulpits.
CarolinaFathead

Cleveland, OH

#2137 Sep 13, 2012
really wrote:
<quoted text> so I guess you could say the same for all you sports fans out there who whoop and hollar and scream and dance and show so much devotion to some stupid game and certain teams and spend money for expensive tickets and buy all the team clothing, jewlary, ect...?
Hmmm seriously think about it.
Ummm not sure if serious ..........
Benton

United States

#2139 Sep 13, 2012
I just have to wonder why if Ftabmember sees cult people as lovers of abuse, dumber than rocks, and insane, why he'd vote for one for President.

I reckon he'd say that given 2 undesirable choices it's the lesser of 2 evils.

So here's 2 more undesirable choices: would I rather be ignorant, stupid, submitted and depressed, or smart, right, and mean as a snake?

From other threads where Ftab makes it clear he feels poor people are lazy and expresses contempt toward the LGBT community, I wonder if his ID would more accurately be WestboroBabmember.

How many times has someone been able to change your heart by blasting you? It just doesn't work Fred.
Nie

United States

#2140 Sep 13, 2012
People change in an atmosphere of love and acceptance. It's hard enuff to work on just our own self. Revelation of truth is not so much a matter of intelligence as a matter of the heart.

Reader, repeat after me: MY HEART IS DECEPTIVE AND DESPERATELY WICKED.

MY heart. MINE. IS. MY OWN HEART LIES TO ME.

MINE DOES. Mine, my own heart.

The search for truth is a daily battle. We accept truths only as we grow and become ready to hear them, as events take place in our lives, as we find out what works for us and what doesn't.

That's why we can all look to the same book and find different answers. Then turn around and hit each other with it.
Tonixr

Newton, KS

#2141 Sep 13, 2012
CarolinaFathead wrote:
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Westberg used to say a tree can't uproot itself and move. It stayed where it was planted. Stupid stupid analogy but it goes to the heart of the matter of why these oneness pastors are so militant about their members leaving and try to guilt them into stayin through intimidation and fear. It's the tithes. Each member is money in the pocket of the pastor. Don't mess with the man of God's income or you will goto hell. It's obscene. The tithes are another reason "sheep stealing" pastors are blasted from pulpits.
CF, this may be partly true. However, the flip side is that if a oneness Pentecostal tries to transfer, the NEW pastor also often says no, or makes things very uncomfortable for them when they arrive.'Move ins' are generally looked on with distrust both from the pulpit and the pew, even with the coveted 'letter of transfer'.
HONEY BOO BOO TOO

Fort Riley, KS

#2142 Sep 13, 2012
them fake tabbys should spend more time at the dentist instead of giving thier money away to some fake preacher.take care of your teeth and not the preacher.so many naked mouths and minds.
Apostolic Mrs- Thang

Texarkana, TX

#2144 Sep 13, 2012
extra confused wrote:
i think dud wanted the church way back but the elder didnt want him to have it for various reasons.
No bro.westburg want bishop dudley to take the church in junction city but bishop dudley told him that God called him to wichita kansas and for him to do so he would be out of the will of God.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#2146 Sep 13, 2012
Dudley, Westberg and that whole group are prejudice. They don't believe in BLACKS marrying anything but BLACKS.

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