Faith Tabernacle
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1221 Aug 18, 2012
Darnell wrote:
Why all the anonymous posts? Is it fear? I have nothing to say good or bad about all the posts here. I think it's a damn shame that NO ONE is truly indignant about the children abused as most of you would be if an animal were being abused and slaughtered. I understand some of you got your little pathetic feelings hurt because you were "rebuked and kicked out" who cares, big freaking deal.. I know some of you want to defend a man.. Trust me, lay not your trust in a(n) fallible man but rather just trust God because only HE remains infallible..

I don't believe "the message" and I don't care about some of you GROWN crybabies still living beyond 10 years of being excommunicated from the church.. Got to get over the foolishness, it's not worth still being bitter of it especially with someone who "wasn't worth their salt."

My only question is and has already been asked, why did Edwin resign? Don't give me this speculative crap based on an assumption I want to KNOW, why did he resign? If no one knows then just keep the guessing to yourself. Also, to the sheep that contend to defend a man, look.. You're making yourself look really stupid, ignorant and you bear an asinine look on your face if you show allegiance for someone who didn't practice the fundamentals that he preached. Don't do that because you'll never win people to God focusing on vindicating a man. If a man is truly innocent and righteous before God it will be the Lord that vindicates and makes recompense, not your blind loyalty to a fallen preacher.

How the mighty have fallen.
no. Sin should never be defended. But there are innocent people at that church that are just trying to live for God the best way they know how before and after this mess with the youngs. They need our prayers not our criticism. Any wrong done should be punished. Jesus said you shall reap what you sew. Sin should never be swept under the rug or hidden. God will bring it out regardless. These poor children that were made victims should be our most concern. They need our prayers most of all. And love and counseling. God will help them to recover from this. We shouldnt lump all pentecostal preachers with what these two did either. Thats not fair. And just as wrong! There are good God fearing men who preach God's word with sound docrtrine in love and humbleness. Some subjects may not please the multitude but if its in the Bible it should be preached without fear or favor. Otherwise its just tickling your ears
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1222 Aug 18, 2012
ftabmember wrote:
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Anything can be used for EVIL or for GOOD. These "Apostolic pastors" don't want their sheep seeing the GOOD part of TV and the Internet that reveals and warns us all about these spiritual deceivers and controllers who are doing EVIL to their followers day in and day out.

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thats not true. They dont watch tv because of the filth on it. Would you let some one come in your house and makeout in front of your kids on the floor?? I would hope not!! You do of you watch soap operas and hslf the shows on tv! Besides who goes looking for a clean sandwich in a garbage can!! Even conservative baptist preach against that! Get real!!
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1223 Aug 18, 2012
David Crouch wrote:
I prayed this morning for the children, that God would give them healings in their lives, for Faith Tab, that God would strengthen them, Pastot Dudley that God would give him wisdom and for Edwin and Jordan that they can find forgiveness and restitution.
I am not the judge or the jury, just a witness to the working of satan in the lives of fallen man.
God have mercy on all involved.
and thats all we are suppose to be doing. And let the law handle the rest.
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1224 Aug 18, 2012
ftabmember wrote:
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Edwin and Jordan finding forgiveness and restitution?

HOW can there be forgiveness and restitution WITHOUT confession?

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there has been confessions, just not to you. So keep your place as a saint and let the elders in the churches and the law handle it. You just do your part and pray and quit gossiping.
amazed

Melrose Park, IL

#1225 Aug 18, 2012
Please show me in the Bible where Any One was baptized in the titles Father Son Holy Ghost. I have read the Bible through 10 times and never came across anyone being baptized in the 3 titles Father Son Holy Ghost. I am a father son and husband but those are all titles. Those who have ears let them hear. AND THOSE WHO HAVE EYES SEE! Selah.
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1227 Aug 18, 2012
David Crouch wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry I didn't dot every I and cross every T for you.
And you KNOW that neither one of them has not asked God for forgiveness?
WOW.
Hell is going to be a horrible place of torment and I don't hate anyone enough to want them to go there. Question? Have you actually prayed for Edwin and Jordan's soul?
i doubt they have. I am from a church that has fellowshipped in the past. I am appalled at the backsliders boldness and the ones that are not right either and claim to still sit on a pew. I know there are questions and shock and hurt. But, dont add to it for pete's sake!!
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1228 Aug 18, 2012
amazed wrote:
Father is not a name Son is not a name and Holy Ghost is name Jesus is the name where by we must be saved. The Name above every name that has All Power.
yes. That is true
just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1229 Aug 18, 2012
ftabmember wrote:
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Well, we're talking about baptism, right? The command by Jesus is for us to baptize in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.

Do you disagree with Jesus or do you follow his commands?

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he said in the "name" of the father, son, holyghost. Whats his name jesus! Jesus said my father and i are one!! If you have seen me you have seen the father!! I am a mother, i am a daughter and i am a human, but those are my positions not my name. If the gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost- thats scripture honey, in case you didnt know.
amazed

Melrose Park, IL

#1230 Aug 18, 2012
God is not an author of confusion.
CarolinaFathead

United States

#1231 Aug 18, 2012
[QUOTE who="just a king's kid"]<quoted text>
thats not true. They dont watch tv because of the filth on it. Would you let some one come in your house and makeout in front of your kids on the floor?? I would hope not!! You do of you watch soap operas and hslf the shows on tv! Besides who goes looking for a clean sandwich in a garbage can!! Even conservative baptist preach against that! Get real!![/QUOTE]

Why don't you leave people alone and quit dictating to them what should or should t be grievous to their conscious. As Paul stated when talking about these things and those that are hung up on "convictions", your faith is weak as was the people he was trying to explain this very same concept to in his letter to the romans And you have no understanding but thats to be expected.

This is the cold hard truth abou these "super spiritual", oneness, holiness, and "apostolic" churches. They don't know Jesus, the son of the living God, or have an iota of understanding of the sacrifice Gods son made on the cross, and prove this by their continual demand for adherence to these stupid rules. They choose the law over grace and have no idea they are doing it while in the same breath declaring their superiority over other religions. Idiocy.
ftabmember

Denver, CO

#1232 Aug 18, 2012
CarolinaFathead wrote:
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Everything, and I mean everything, was the truth. The truth might be ugly but stating the truth doesn't make a person bitter because the truth they are stating is ugly. Your "church" is ugly and it's why i got out of Dodge in 97 and moved to Ohio evn after westberg expressly forbid me to leave. Then when he saw I wasn't taking no for an answer he made me promise "to come back" which I did but only to get the rest of my things. The people in there and those who defend that abominable cesspool(look what has happened in there?! Are you kidding me? THis is the type of stuff westberg would rail on and proclaim as proof that those "other" religions were in false doctrine if something half as scandalous happened there!!) are so blinded by what they "feel" and "felt" in there, which was nothing but mass delusional hysteria, they can't see the truth right in front of their face. Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Look, I thank God through his son Jesus Christ for my time in faith tabernacle. That was where I learned what I believe and not through teaching there but through looking and observing at the hypocrisies and idiocy happening there while reading the bible for myself. I know what I believe, why I believe it, and i am not afraid to debate anybody about it. I most likely would not be in that place if it wasn't for faith tabernacle and the time I spent there. So in that respect,yeah it was a thoroughfare I used to get closer to God but it was most certainly a school on what NOT to do.
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Faith Tabernacle was the thoroughfare that got you to leave the false god and find the true God.

Praise God for that!

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ftabmember

Denver, CO

#1233 Aug 18, 2012
[QUOTE who="just a king's kid"]<quoted text>
he said in the "name" of the father, son, holyghost. Whats his name jesus! Jesus said my father and i are one!! If you have seen me you have seen the father!! I am a mother, i am a daughter and i am a human, but those are my positions not my name. If the gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost- thats scripture honey, in case you didnt know.[/QUOTE]
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I still don't see what you have against God the Father and God the Holy Ghost?

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just a king's kid

Ridgeland, MS

#1234 Aug 18, 2012
amazed wrote:
God is not an author of confusion.
no he isnt.
amazed

Melrose Park, IL

#1236 Aug 18, 2012
Not to say that I am anything but a sinner saved by the grace and mercy of Jesus Christ my lord and savior. I have given Bible studies to hungry souls and watched God fill them with the Holy Ghost as I prayed and heard them repent and speak in tongues as the spirit have them utterance just like in the book of acts. The Bible instructs us to make our calling and election sure.Acts 2:38 The Bible study is called Into His Marvelous Light. Rightly Dividing the Word. Like I said before I am all about what is the heart best of God Soul Winning!!!
FYI

Waterford, MI

#1237 Aug 18, 2012
eyes wide open

Junction City, KS

#1238 Aug 18, 2012
FYI wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =aXYneDUk5RcXX
..........dang.
eyes wide open

Junction City, KS

#1240 Aug 18, 2012
@ 2:52

"You aint got nuthin to say about a minister except if it's good. And if you aint got nuthin good to say SHUT YOUR MOTOR MOUTH!"

"Dontcha love your pastor? Dontcha love your pastor? Dontcha thank God for your pastor?"



Now that's preaching. LOL!!

Big article on this situation at:

http://www.spiritualabuse.org/
CarolinaFathead

United States

#1241 Aug 18, 2012
[QUOTE who="just a king's kid"]<quoted text>
Jesus said my father and i are one!! If you have seen me you have seen the father!!.[/QUOTE]

Do you even know what this means? Such ignorance
Brainwashed

Junction City, KS

#1242 Aug 18, 2012
amazed wrote:
Father is not a name Son is not a name and Holy Ghost is name Jesus is the name where by we must be saved. The Name above every name that has All Power.
Really if the holy ghost is a person why???at Mark 13:32 does it say But of that day and that hour knoweth no man,no, not the angels in the heavens,neither the son, BUT the Father,if the holy ghost was a person would not he have been mentioned as also one not knowing when the end of days's is to come???it said the son did not know hum?
CarolinaFathead

United States

#1244 Aug 18, 2012
eyes wide open wrote:
@ 2:52
"You aint got nuthin to say about a minister except if it's good. And if you aint got nuthin good to say SHUT YOUR MOTOR MOUTH!"
"Dontcha love your pastor? Dontcha love your pastor? Dontcha thank God for your pastor?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =aXYneDUk5RcXX
Now that's preaching. LOL!!
Big article on this situation at:
http://www.spiritualabuse.org/
Edwin's "sermon" there is a perfect example of how and why a lech like him could fool so many people. Just shut up and do what youre told or you're going to hell!!! This whole situation is a great example of why pastor-worship churches are so harmful. They don't want discourse. They don't want discussion. They can't handle debate. It's shut up or else! They are all cowards. Every stinking lot of those ministers that operate in this manner.

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