Letters: Greed plagues health system

Full story: El Paso Times

Besides the main reason of wanting Obama and America to fail so as to help them get back into office, Republicans are quite happy with 50 million uninsured and the current status quo with our health system in crisis.

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Gina

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Brendan Boyd - you are a very hateful and ingnorant person.

Your letter is filled with hate, falsehoods and lies.
EPcynic

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Brendan you loser, the answer is simple. You go out and build an insurance company and then you can charge whatever you like. Or go to medical school and become a doctor and charge what you please for you services. Whiners like you act like people exist to serve you. You are nothing but a thief who would screw the hard working people who pay for good health care just so you can get it for "free."
Rey

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Nov 20, 2009
 
The plan if approved will still not provide coverage for EVERYONE, so what will they do about those uninsured and I am not talking about the illegals.

The Congeression Budget Office revealed yesterday that the insurance prems. WILL increase under the proposed plan.

It is very interesting that all of a sudden the government is announcing that some medical tests are not required as often. Mammograms, not required until age 50. A decision made by govt panel of Doctors, not one was a cancer specialist. Now pap smears are only necessary once every two years. Are we missing something here?
JMS

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Nov 20, 2009
 
I can believe the Times printed Boyd's article, which was full of lies. Republicans are fiscally-responsible, not hateful. Boyd appears to be the hateful one- typical mean El Paso Liberal...
Another opinion

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Nov 20, 2009
 
I applaud Mr. Boyd's comments. The truth hurts.
Rey

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Nov 20, 2009
 
I have to start proof reading my post.
Should have read "congressional" budget office.
JMS

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Hey Another Opinion..Boyd says the Republicans are greedy?...the only thing GREEDY is the Liberal Democrats in El Paso who somehow think they deserve 'FREE' healthcare. So who exactly are the greedy ones here? LIBERAL DEMOCRATS-the epitomy of greed and anti-Americanism. Feel free to leave to France and take Reyes with you-they run their country there more to your liking. LEAVE AMERICA ALONE.

p.s. it will be far from 'free' WAKE-UP
Jimmy

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Another opinion wrote:
I applaud Mr. Boyd's comments. The truth hurts.
Yes it does, and Boyd speaks of none.
stupid people

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Nov 20, 2009
 
a public option is the best answer and the simplest. just like the texas work comp fund helped texas businesses with work comp, the public option or government health insurance fund could help make prices more affordable for small businesses. large businesses do ok with their current plans because of the large pool of employees they have in it. small businesses are screwed.

just like in the texas fund, it will force insurance companies to be more competitive and they will be able to compete. as with all government run businesses, their employees are generally horrible even if the government insurance company is not forced to turn a profit.

the large pool of the government employees could be forced to use this fund and that in itself would give it its numbers and anyone else who wanted to join in could do it. yes senators and reps and the prez included. basically the government self insures its own employees and allows anyone else to join also. whether state or municipal employees would be forced into this plan would be up for debate. tort reform and allowing insurance companies to cross state lines would be permited. this is the only way it could really work.

Sucking Us Dry

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Nov 20, 2009
 

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The Health Insurance industry has for years try to associate itself with healthcare when in fact Doctors, Nurses, Hospitals are healthcare and insurance is the Insurance Industry. The financial industries like the banks and Insurance companies of America has raped this country for the past ten years and now want to continue to do the same.

Some ten years or so, when health insurance companies switched from non profit to profit Wall Street companies, health care gouging has continued. The Health Insurance industry has destroyed healthcare in America by sucking the money out of the system. Don't believe me, look at the CEO of United Healthcare with 1.2 Billion in stock options. Every increase in profits makes him richer.

You can be fool enough to blame Obama, Bush whomever and fall into their brainwashing trap of not recognizing the truth. The Health Insurance companies are the problem, not Americans.
SnackTime Jones

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Gina wrote:
Brendan Boyd - you are a very hateful and ingnorant person.
Your letter is filled with hate, falsehoods and lies.
Name me one thing that I said in my letter that was a "lie".
Manny

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Sucking Us Dry wrote:
The financial industries like the banks and Insurance companies of America has raped this country for the past ten years and now want to continue to do the same.
And the new Senate health bill will TAX vaseline. Bend over!

Oh - I think we call these companies that you refer to as 'businesses'. What's even more interesting is that they are ALL federally regulated. Suck it up 'Dry'!!
Old Coach

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Nov 20, 2009
 
SnackTime Jones wrote:
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Name me one thing that I said in my letter that was a "lie".
Name one thing you said that was supported with fact.
BloggingBoyd

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Nov 20, 2009
 
EPcynic wrote:
Brendan you loser, the answer is simple. You go out and build an insurance company and then you can charge whatever you like. Or go to medical school and become a doctor and charge what you please for you services. Whiners like you act like people exist to serve you. You are nothing but a thief who would screw the hard working people who pay for good health care just so you can get it for "free."
Lets see if the facts here hurt you the most. Fact: the administrative cost overhead for the governement run medicare/medicaid program is about 2 to 3 cents on the dollar spent on healthcare for patients. The administrative cost overhead for private insurance companies is about 20 to 30 cents on every dollar spent. On top of that, the satisfaction rate and favorability ratings for Medicare/Medicaid is way above the satisfaction rate and favorability ratings than that of private insurance.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/img/njgraphics...

So with that being the case, if the US government can deliver a product like healthcare far more cost effectively, and with a far higher satisfaction rate than private insurance, then why shouldn't the government handle the delivery of healthcare to the American people seeing as how the private health insurance companies are incapable to doing it in a satisfactory or cost effective manner? Isn't that what all you conservative corporatist believe in, doing things more cost effectively while at the same time giving the customer/consumer a bigger bang for his buck?

Having the government be in charge of the healthcare delivery system of this country is the best thing to do. Contrary to what you might think, the private sector is not always the best solution to the problems this country faces. I mean afterall we deregulated the banking and financial industries of this country under the Gramm-Leach-Blilley bill and look happened there. Major fortune 500 Company after major fortune 500 company have all bit the dust and have gone belly up after the corporate heads that ran tem made lousy business decisions and running their companies into the ground, and are now being bailed out to the tune of about 23 trillion US taxpayer dollars. These are same people that you want to trust to give us healthcare in our country? Give me a break!
So while policy holders such as myself are paying huge premiums for health insurance to private health insurance companies, the CEOs and the senior level executives live the life of Reilly flying around the country on a plush fleet of lear jets to attend celebrity golf tournaments and throwing million dollar super bowl parties.
The ones who are hollering the most about healthcare reform are probably the ones that use some form of government healthcare program like Medicare/Medicaid and make up some of the most lame excuses in the word in the process: Wahhhhh ! It would eat into the executive gold plated washroom sink fund of Health Insurance CEOs. Waaaahhhhhh it would mean health insurance companies can't send the whole entire management team to europe for the fifth time this year. Waaaahhhhh ! It means the entire executive staff would have to miss the Spring Break Debauchery in Matzatlan and the tired old gray haired farts couldn't go around on the beach trying to boink hot, young college girls in bikinis by throwing the company profits at them. Waaaahhhhh !
BloggingBoyd

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Nov 20, 2009
 
JMS wrote:
I can believe the Times printed Boyd's article, which was full of lies. Republicans are fiscally-responsible, not hateful. Boyd appears to be the hateful one- typical mean El Paso Liberal...
Republicans are fiscally responsible? You have got to be kidding me! Lets see Reagan tripled the known federal debt and Bush Jr. Doubled it. Not only that but Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. ran our trade deficits through the roof to record setting heights. And you call that being fiscally responsible? Oh puhleeeze give me a break! Sorry Pal but you are really full of it! You're delusional.
Rey

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Nov 20, 2009
 
I agree something has to be done but there is so much fraud regardless of whether the government or the private sector handle the program. TO believe that money will be saved by eliminating waste and fraud by the government is isane. If that was the case, after all these years regardless of administration, we wouldnt even be discussing that problem.

They dont have enough people in the field to investigate or even just inspect SSA disability fraud. There is even a dollar level of fraud and waste that they wont bother with.

Perhaps they can reach a compromise without destroying the private sector and get serious for once about all waste and fraud on both sides.
Think Manny

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Manny, again you are so REPUBLICAN that you can't see the truth.

I am not blaiming either political party ( other than the fact that neither can do much cause they are bought and paid for) but a runaway business system that is destroying America. There is nothing wrong with fair Capitalism, but the financial system of this country is running out of control and needs to be put into check.(the Insurance Companies are part of the finalcial system and is destroying our Health Care system)

Look back into history and THINK (don't just respond with the radio show host knucklehead brainwashing trash talk). When TR, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy etc were in office, steps had to be taken against certain businesses to bring them back into operating within balance for the good of the country and its people.

This country is suppose to be democratic and capitalistic, not just capitalistic. Think Manny - I have faith that your El Paso education at least taught you how to think a little.
good point rey

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Nov 20, 2009
 
good points rey, but if the insurance industry had the government competing it owuld tighten their butts up and make them more competitve. there would still be fraud no matter what. the hospitals, the doctors business managers not the necessarily the doctors committ fraud everyday. medicare doesnt pay enough for the true cost of the doctor's visit so they always throw in extra procedures to get what they wanted in the first place. cant blame them. insurance companies have ppo's that help, but i remember a time when my my friend had signed a contract with sierra for a c-section of 3500 dollars. when his wife and new baby checked out he was gonna pay the bill on his visa card and have the insurance company reimburse him. the clerk said not to worry about paying because they would go ahead and bill the insurance company. they billed the insurance 11,000 instead of the 3500. im telling you fraud is committed everyday. ive seen insurance companies try to charge the insured another full yearly deductable for a person who stayed only one extra day in the hospital after staying a week because the year changed. the deductable was way more than one day's stay.
BloggingBoyd

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Nov 20, 2009
 
Rey wrote:
I agree something has to be done but there is so much fraud regardless of whether the government or the private sector handle the program. TO believe that money will be saved by eliminating waste and fraud by the government is isane. If that was the case, after all these years regardless of administration, we wouldnt even be discussing that problem.
They dont have enough people in the field to investigate or even just inspect SSA disability fraud. There is even a dollar level of fraud and waste that they wont bother with.
Perhaps they can reach a compromise without destroying the private sector and get serious for once about all waste and fraud on both sides.
As far as waste, fraud and cost are concerned the facts are very simple Rey. The government run healthcare programs of Medicare and Medicaid have a administrative cost overhead of about 2 or 3 cents per dollar spent on healthcare delivery. The private insurance companies have about a 20 or 30 cents administrative cost overhead for every dollar spend delivering healthcare. On top of that, customer satisfaction surveys are much higher for Medicare and Medicaid than they are for private health insurance. Now with that being the case, who do you think can do a better, more cost effective job of delivering healthcare in this country? This is a very simple concept, don't try to confuse it or conflate it with SSID cost mismanagement or fraud. There is no comparison there to be made. You are trying to make a comparison between apples and oranges and then saying that they are same kind of fruit.
Manuel Alvarez

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BB it is nice to see you keep writing BS and lies. BB did you not noted the name at the bottom of the graph you provided? Knowing probably not, but the graph was put together by the Department of Health and Human Services. Doesnít the HHS run Medicare and Medicaid? Donít you think there might be a little bit of conflict of interest in the HHS reporting? Oh wait I keep forgetting just how much you hate information from biased sources, correct BB. Is Gallup Poll OK for you? This is what Gallup had to say about health insurance:ďAs Congress debates a possible major expansion of health insurance in the United States, Gallup finds 38% of Americans rating healthcare coverage in this country as excellent or good, the highest (by eight percentage points) in the nine-year history of this question, and 12 points above last year's level.Ē Maybe Americans are trying to send the President and Congress a message; KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OUR INSURANCE!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124415/Greater-Opt...

BB, I see your favorite president, BHO, is doing really well in the polls. I guess the shine in really wearing off.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/122627/Obama-Job-A...

Oh one last old BB, if GWB doubled our deficit is it safe to say that BHO has now increased the deficit by four?? Just thought Iíd ask.

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