George

United States

#26294 Oct 7, 2013
Chicago (AFP)- Hunters hoping to bag their limit on federal land joined a chorus of frustrated citizens urging a halt to the US government shutdown Monday.

"People are traveling hundreds of miles this time of year and getting to their favorite hunting or fishing holes and finding they've closed," said Miles Moretti, president of the Utah-based Mule Deer Foundation.

October marks the beginning of what is usually a brief hunting season for waterfowl and larger game like deer and elk.

But with Congress unable to reach a deal on the federal budget and only essential government work permitted, some 329 federal wildlife refuges have been closed to hunting.

That will increase pressure on already crowded state-run public hunting grounds, and could have a serious economic impact, sportsmen's groups warned.

It could also dash the dreams of hunters who've finally snagged a rare permit.

"In Colorado, hunters who've waited 12 years to hunt elk are being forced to turn in their tags," said Gaspar Perricone, co-director of the Bull Moose Sportsmen's Alliance.

"The hardship isn't only being felt by the hunters and anglers, but also by the locals and rural economies that depend on them," he said in a conference call.

Hunting and fishing is an $86 billion industry while other forms of wildlife recreation, like birdwatching, bring the annual total up to $144 billion.

"It's a big business," said Desiree Sorenson-Groves of the National Wildlife Refuge Association.

"For commercial guides, this is Macy's at Christmas."

The shutdown also has halted critical habitat conservation efforts which need to be conducted in the fall ahead of the spring breeding season, she said.

Adding insult to injury, people can't even call their congressmen to complain because the shutdown also affects constituent services.

"Our community is getting pretty frustrated," said Whit Fosburgh, president of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.

"We want the damn thing to be fixed and want the federal government open."
George

United States

#26295 Oct 7, 2013
Horray for common sense.
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SACRAMENTO (Reuters)- California Governor Jerry Brown vetoed a bill on Monday that would have allowed non-citizen legal immigrants to serve on juries in the most populous U.S. state, saying that such service was an obligation that went along with citizenship.

"This bill would permit lawful permanent residents who are not citizens to serve on a jury," Brown, a Democrat, said in his veto message. "I don't think that's right."
George

United States

#26296 Oct 7, 2013
Another example of the Obama administrations attack on free speech and the Constitution.
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WASHINGTON (AP) The Obama administration is blocking a federal law enforcement agent from publishing a book about the failed "Fast and Furious" gun-smuggling sting operation because of concerns that the book would negatively affect morale, the American Civil Liberties Union said Monday.

The ACLU charged that the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is worried that the book proposed by an ATF agent would hurt relationships with other U.S. law enforcement agencies.

In a six-page letter to ATF Deputy Director Thomas Brandon, the ACLU said the bureau's decision to block the book proposed by Special Agent John Dodson was a violation of his First Amendment rights. The ACLU described Dodson as a whistle-blower.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26297 Oct 7, 2013
Mgtn Res wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing I can do if you refuse to face reality. Typical democrat response, deny and deflect.
you left out the two biggies when libbys are faced with reality. i swear to god this is what they do. >>> bush and racist.

“what it is, is what it is!”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#26298 Oct 7, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>Not true. Joe has done everything he said he would do before he got elected. Nothing more, nothing less. He is a man of his word and has West Virginians best interest in mind when he takes a stance. I think I have agreed with Manchin on every position on every issue he has taken.
I have also. Manchin hasn't stood with the rank and file left wing nut jobs.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26299 Oct 7, 2013
George wrote:
Horray for common sense.
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SACRAMENTO (Reuters)- California Governor Jerry Brown vetoed a bill on Monday that would have allowed non-citizen legal immigrants to serve on juries in the most populous U.S. state, saying that such service was an obligation that went along with citizenship.
"This bill would permit lawful permanent residents who are not citizens to serve on a jury," Brown, a Democrat, said in his veto message. "I don't think that's right."
hes a liberal freak case in the worst way.
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“Bacon says: I love you”

Since: Oct 13

Mommy and Daddy

#26301 Oct 7, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
<quoted text>you left out the two biggies when libbys are faced with reality. i swear to god this is what they do. >>> bush and racist.
How could I forget that? Liberal chuckleheads are always blaming Bush and playing the race card. Democrats are too weak to admit that racism is a societal problem that crosses political lines. Morons like Bacon Hater are quick to play the race card, even when the facts suggest otherwise. There are too many minorities, including African Americans, who are members of the republican party to accuse the party of racism.
http://conservativeblackchick.com/blog/2013/0...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26302 Oct 7, 2013
Mgtn Res wrote:
<quoted text>
How could I forget that? Liberal chuckleheads are always blaming Bush and playing the race card. Democrats are too weak to admit that racism is a societal problem that crosses political lines. Morons like Bacon Hater are quick to play the race card, even when the facts suggest otherwise. There are too many minorities, including African Americans, who are members of the republican party to accuse the party of racism.
http://conservativeblackchick.com/blog/2013/0...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
herman cain. good man and opposite of obama.

“Bacon says: I love you”

Since: Oct 13

Mommy and Daddy

#26303 Oct 7, 2013
"You might think that the stakes are high enough for Republicans to put in some serious time trying to clarify their message. As the great economist Alfred Marshall once said, facts do not speak for themselves. If we are waiting for the Republicans to do the speaking, the country is in big trouble. Democrats, by contrast, are all talk. They could sell refrigerators to Eskimos before Republicans could sell them blankets". Quote by Thomas Sowell, an African American conservative. He certainly is right, democrats are blowhards.
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fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26305 Oct 7, 2013
Mgtn Res wrote:
"You might think that the stakes are high enough for Republicans to put in some serious time trying to clarify their message. As the great economist Alfred Marshall once said, facts do not speak for themselves. If we are waiting for the Republicans to do the speaking, the country is in big trouble. Democrats, by contrast, are all talk. They could sell refrigerators to Eskimos before Republicans could sell them blankets". Quote by Thomas Sowell, an African American conservative. He certainly is right, democrats are blowhards.
republicans wants are on the table ready for acceptance. heres three, no tax on medical devices, the go ahead for keystone, and budget cuts. i see nothing wrong with them at all.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26306 Oct 7, 2013
obama wants congress to obey him. NO DEAL.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26307 Oct 7, 2013
obamas doom and gloom predictions arnt working out. hes lied so many times no-one cares. except MSNBC/NBC watchers. as for the default stuff the whole dam world has defaulted on us. we owe them some payback. none of the cluckers pay us back. piss on them.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26308 Oct 7, 2013
obama care is going to cost the democrats dearly. nobody wants it and their being forced. americans are pushing back. its a train wreck. dems are going to flip on their leader. they want to keep their jobs. look what joe manchin did.
Well Duh

Bridgewater, VA

#26309 Oct 7, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>Yes he has, and I suspect he will do it again if the Republicans continue to hold the country hostage. I have read several articles that suggest he likely will forgo Congress and pay our bills anyway if they fail to raise the debt limit. Of course some Constitutional lawyers say he can do it legally, others say he cant. Even if the courts later say he didnt have the power, whats done is done. Republicans can not sacrifice the economy and permanent credit of the US for a political agenda and expect him to sit back and do nothing. A president that truly has Americas best interest in mind would do what he has to do to pay our bills and save our economy from permanent damage.
The president can still pay the bills with the money comming in. But he can not raise the debt ceiling nor pass a budget without congress. You know as well as many Americans that is why we have the three branches on government. And this has been done three other times that a party has done this so called hostage thing in the past. The other three were leaders and did negotiate. So this is not a new thing. I love how Obama and hid liberal sheeple would not call the Fort Hood shooting a act of terror or teason but a work related incident. They did not want to offend. But they have no problem calling people taliban and terrorist. So much for their political correctness trophy the got.
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beautifulmind

Heraklion, Greece

#26311 Oct 8, 2013
police state!!! usa us a police state!! we have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of it's prisoners.

http://www.infowars.com/police-arrest-veteran...
I see

Bridgeport, WV

#26312 Oct 8, 2013
Chief Justice Roberts did not say obamacare was constitutional..read his RULING ..

He said that the mandate was NOT Constitutional and that the ONLY WAY THAT the federal government could enforce obamacare is to to enforce it as a tax....

WELL here is where the obamacare mandate is unconstitutional..Right when Justice Roberts made that ruling THE ACA should have went BACK to congress and should have been VOTED ON BY EACH MEMBER OF CONGRESS AS A TAX .. IT WAS NOT ..

The House did not pass obamacare as a tax..they said that it was NOT a tax..

The Obama Lawyers argued their case saying it was not a TAX... Roberts contorted his logic like a cheap soggy pretzel and called it a TAX.

So DO NOT BE FOOLS PEOPLE .. OBAMACARE IS ILLEGAL ..

BECAUSE OBAMACARE/THE ACA Originated in the SENATE and a Tax cannot originate in the Senate..

THEN.....OBAMA has unlawfully changed the law by giving exemptions and waivers to Corporations, Big Business and Labor ..HE HAS NO LEGAL STANDING TO DO THIS...

Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#26313 Oct 8, 2013
beautifulmind wrote:
police state!!! usa us a police state!! we have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of it's prisoners.
http://www.infowars.com/police-arrest-veteran...
Oh My God, you posted something from Alex Jones! If it is true, it's the republican's fauly.
Are you going to post Ted Nuggent next?
Well Duh

Bridgewater, VA

#26314 Oct 8, 2013
This is a funny but not funny thing happening today. The National Mall that was closed due to shutdown is now going to open for a democratic immigration rally. So veterans can not go along a sidewalk to the war memorial and had to force themselves through. But they open the mall for people to have a rally for immigration. So they want to hurt the citizens but rally for lawbreakers. Obama is such a leader.
Well Duh

Bridgewater, VA

#26315 Oct 8, 2013
I see wrote:
Chief Justice Roberts did not say obamacare was constitutional..read his RULING ..
He said that the mandate was NOT Constitutional and that the ONLY WAY THAT the federal government could enforce obamacare is to to enforce it as a tax....
WELL here is where the obamacare mandate is unconstitutional..Right when Justice Roberts made that ruling THE ACA should have went BACK to congress and should have been VOTED ON BY EACH MEMBER OF CONGRESS AS A TAX .. IT WAS NOT ..
The House did not pass obamacare as a tax..they said that it was NOT a tax..
The Obama Lawyers argued their case saying it was not a TAX... Roberts contorted his logic like a cheap soggy pretzel and called it a TAX.
So DO NOT BE FOOLS PEOPLE .. OBAMACARE IS ILLEGAL ..
BECAUSE OBAMACARE/THE ACA Originated in the SENATE and a Tax cannot originate in the Senate..
THEN.....OBAMA has unlawfully changed the law by giving exemptions and waivers to Corporations, Big Business and Labor ..HE HAS NO LEGAL STANDING TO DO THIS...
I have said this and so has George and we showed the proof and the rulings. Plus I said it should have been put back to a vote for it was not a regular law but was changed to a tax law. But the sheeple all cried it was not. That is why I have also stated how Obama has changed the law without congressional approval. So the whole thing is illegal and become more unconstitutional. But the sheeple and morons feel they need another entitlement.

“Bacon says: I love you”

Since: Oct 13

Mommy and Daddy

#26316 Oct 8, 2013
Well Duh wrote:
This is a funny but not funny thing happening today. The National Mall that was closed due to shutdown is now going to open for a democratic immigration rally. So veterans can not go along a sidewalk to the war memorial and had to force themselves through. But they open the mall for people to have a rally for immigration. So they want to hurt the citizens but rally for lawbreakers. Obama is such a leader.
The philosophy and actions of the democrat party prevent our society from advancing. With their emphasis on government dependence and immoral lifestyles, they have hampered the growth of their core base. Leaders like Obama depend on an ignorant sheeple in order to advance their socialist agenda. Sadly enough, too many citizens on the left are more than willing to sacrifice some freedom for government handouts. The vast majority of democrats are weak, both mentally and emotionally.

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