NYS AUDIT Results #1
Just Saying

Syracuse, NY

#64 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
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I don't believe this is true.
Things which allow the city to be more efficient do NOT translate into the city prospering.
Rather they are turned into less pressure on property taxes.
By all creditable sources the in-housing of garbage services saves something North of $150K per year.
And there is no evidence of "prospering".
You are the biggest liar on Topix. Bar none.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#65 Dec 18, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
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You are the biggest liar on Topix. Bar none.
Perhaps.
But, I'm going by what I can support from other legitimate sources.
Your view, I believe... is purely based upon conjecture.

If otherwise... please submit facts for consideration.
Bingo

Little Falls, NY

#66 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
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I don't believe this is true.
Things which allow the city to be more efficient do NOT translate into the city prospering.
Rather they are turned into less pressure on property taxes.
By all creditable sources the in-housing of garbage services saves something North of $150K per year.
And there is no evidence of "prospering".
To say the City is saving $150K????

I've reluctantly concluded that UTLT is far more than a mean and clueless busybody. Mr. Bill Simpson is a compulsive liar...mentally ill....in all seriousness a severe nutcase. He comes to Topix in a town he doesn't even live in any longer to try to spread pointless, malicious, and obvious lies, for no discernable purpose whatsoever. Seriously, this guy is severely mentally ill.
UTLT needs to STFU

Little Falls, NY

#67 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
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Perhaps.
But, I'm going by what I can support from other legitimate sources.
Your view, I believe... is purely based upon conjecture.
If otherwise... please submit facts for consideration.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/indian-trail-...
UTLT needs to STFU

Little Falls, NY

#68 Dec 18, 2013
Bingo wrote:
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To say the City is saving $150K????
I've reluctantly concluded that UTLT is far more than a mean and clueless busybody. Mr. Bill Simpson is a compulsive liar...mentally ill....in all seriousness a severe nutcase. He comes to Topix in a town he doesn't even live in any longer to try to spread pointless, malicious, and obvious lies, for no discernable purpose whatsoever. Seriously, this guy is severely mentally ill.
And you keep responding to him, which is the only reason he keeps posting...
Just Saying

Syracuse, NY

#69 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
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Perhaps.
But, I'm going by what I can support from other legitimate sources.
Legitimate sources? Do you mean ... Toe's accounting? BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Every financial number the city publishes is founded on lies and incompetence. The audit says so.

And when you tout those meaningless and unreliable (per the audit findings) numbers on Topix, YOU are just furthering the lies and incompetence.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#70 Dec 18, 2013
Fine!
With what FACTS do you work?
or is it merely opinions which agree with yours?

If all financial information is meaningless, and if every statement made by officials is suspect, all that is left is hot air.

WAY too cynical.
UTLT needs to STFU

Little Falls, NY

#71 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
Fine!
With what FACTS do you work?
or is it merely opinions which agree with yours?
If all financial information is meaningless, and if every statement made by officials is suspect, all that is left is hot air.
WAY too cynical.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/indian-trail-...
UTLT needs to STFU

Little Falls, NY

#72 Dec 18, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
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Legitimate sources? Do you mean ... Toe's accounting? BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Every financial number the city publishes is founded on lies and incompetence. The audit says so.
And when you tout those meaningless and unreliable (per the audit findings) numbers on Topix, YOU are just furthering the lies and incompetence.
STOP REPLYING.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#73 Dec 18, 2013
So you come to a conclusion about the garbage system from some back of the envelope calculations which have been advanced on Topix?
Vs...
The Department of Public Works.
The Finance Committee.
The Common Council.
The Treasurer.... and
The last three years of financial statements.

ALL BOGUS ???

And not to mention other communities which have come to the same conclusion.

Stop responding!!!(You are in a no-win situation)
UTLT needs to STFU

Little Falls, NY

#74 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
So you come to a conclusion about the garbage system from some back of the envelope calculations which have been advanced on Topix?
Vs...
The Department of Public Works.
The Finance Committee.
The Common Council.
The Treasurer.... and
The last three years of financial statements.
ALL BOGUS ???
And not to mention other communities which have come to the same conclusion.
Stop responding!!!(You are in a no-win situation)
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/indian-trail-...
Wait

Melville, NY

#75 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
So you come to a conclusion about the garbage system from some back of the envelope calculations which have been advanced on Topix?
Vs...
The Department of Public Works.
The Finance Committee.
The Common Council.
The Treasurer.... and
The last three years of financial statements.
ALL BOGUS ???
And not to mention other communities which have come to the same conclusion.
Stop responding!!!(You are in a no-win situation)
All the department's calculations are coming from the treasurer.
He's the one who provides the information to them.
When asked about the numbers he gets angry and wants to know why one would question him.
Based on the audit I do question those numbers.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#76 Dec 18, 2013
Wait wrote:
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All the department's calculations are coming from the treasurer.
He's the one who provides the information to them.
When asked about the numbers he gets angry and wants to know why one would question him.
Based on the audit I do question those numbers.
So how many folks are in on this deception?
The finance committee is approving every check.
In total 15 people?
And they are sly enough to trick those "college educated" NYS auditors.
And their only goal is to simply to buy trucks for DPW?
AND To heck with the poor hard-working citizens.?

I'm hard pressed to be a believer, with no 'facts'.
UTLT needs to STFU

Little Falls, NY

#77 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
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So how many folks are in on this deception?
The finance committee is approving every check.
In total 15 people?
And they are sly enough to trick those "college educated" NYS auditors.
And their only goal is to simply to buy trucks for DPW?
AND To heck with the poor hard-working citizens.?
I'm hard pressed to be a believer, with no 'facts'.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/indian-trail-...
fact check

Moravia, NY

#78 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT wrote:
<quoted text>
So how many folks are in on this deception?
The finance committee is approving every check.
In total 15 people?
And they are sly enough to trick those "college educated" NYS auditors.
And their only goal is to simply to buy trucks for DPW?
AND To heck with the poor hard-working citizens.?
I'm hard pressed to be a believer, with no 'facts'.
'The finance committee is approving every check.'

Nope, they approve contracts not checks.
Question

Herkimer, NY

#79 Dec 18, 2013
UTLT needs to STFU wrote:
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STOP REPLYING.
Who is this out-of-state lunatic named UTLT who is meddling in LF politics by telling whopper lies? Why is he doing it?
lonely old man

East Syracuse, NY

#80 Dec 19, 2013
Question wrote:
<quoted text>Who is this out-of-state lunatic named UTLT who is meddling in LF politics by telling whopper lies? Why is he doing it?
He apparently has no life. Sad, really.
Bingo

Little Falls, NY

#81 Dec 19, 2013
Question wrote:
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Who is this out-of-state lunatic named UTLT who is meddling in LF politics by telling whopper lies? Why is he doing it?
His name is Bill Simpson and he used to live in the City back in 1965 or so. I do know some people who have met him personally, and he does visit from time to time. As far as his constant telling of whoppers, and why is he doing it, well, I'd say you've about got it. A lunatic. Mentally ill. Why else would a person constantly go onto the Topix board of a City they lived in half a century ago and tell vast and obvious lies all the time? Another symptom is how completely impervious he is when being presented with actual facts. Nothing can penetrate the fantasy bubble.

My own suspicion is that Mr. Simpson was watching The Andy Griffith Show back in 1965, and went to North Carolina to live in Mayberry, to be with Sheriff Andy, Opie and Aunt Bee. And when he didn't find Mayberry (because it's fictional), and was far away from Little Falls, he was safely able to project his feelings about Mayberry back onto Little Falls without fear of contradiction. I mean this in complete seriousness.

Well, this is Little Falls. One of the qualities of this place is how relatively tolerant we are to the mentally ill among us. What makes Simpson so infuriating is that the lies he tells, or maybe, in more sympathy, the delusions he has, are about a town that, in many ways, we'd like to be...things like honest government, fair accounting, citizen participation being welcomed in government, responsive government that actually does something about corruption...these are all things we'd all like to see...but the reality is so utterly different that Simpson's portrayal of things that he might as well be on another planet, not just another state.

“Do SOMETHING !!!”

Since: Jan 08

Indian Trail, NC

#82 Dec 19, 2013
Question wrote:
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Who is this out-of-state lunatic named UTLT who is meddling in LF politics by telling whopper lies? Why is he doing it?
Yes, I'm a lunatic because I believe that discussions should be fact based. You folks believe no financial information and no statements made by persons who have direct knowledge.
Consequently, you are in the position of not knowing, or believing, anything.
Is the city broke, or awash in money? You can't possibly know.
Has the city's budget been balanced? You can't possibly know.
And, within this information vacuum you decide to believe the very worst, and to state your 'beliefs' as fact.

You refuse to live in a fact-based world.

Is it possible that a massive illegal enterprise has taken over LF?
YES. But there is no evidence of it.. yet.
because

Herkimer, NY

#83 Dec 19, 2013
UTLT wrote:
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You folks believe no financial information and no statements made by persons who have direct knowledge.
Because the most recent state audit revealed that those persons are cooking the books. The city treasurer cannot be trusted anymore. Period. And the mayor has been caught in enough lies that only a naive fool would trust him at his word anymore.

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