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Resolution of Autistic Symptoms in a Child Undergoing Chiropractic...

There are 80 comments on the Jordan Independent story from Feb 2, 2012, titled Resolution of Autistic Symptoms in a Child Undergoing Chiropractic.... In it, Jordan Independent reports that:

A 9 year-old boy with Autism presented to a private office for chiropractic care by his mother.

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#21 Feb 3, 2012
Wisdom has been a resident spammer here for a long time. He consistently posts statistics in which he never can source. He denied for the longest time being a DC saying he got his experience from attending clinics and reading "chiropractic economics" magazine.

I find it hard to believe that a "professional" would carry on and speak as he does.

Anyhow I can agree with you to an extend "friend". An autistic child should not be treated for autism by a chiropractor. Anyhow I see what chirotruth was getting at to an extent. There are many musculoskeletal symptoms associated with things like autism and other conditions. In cases like this there could be a benefit in reducing some of these symptoms. Anyhow I feel with all patients its important to have a team of individuals to turn to, I work close with all medical professions.

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#22 Feb 3, 2012
Dr. May claims there was improvements in
improved social skills language development, improvements seen in all four categories of the Autism Treatment Evaluation which was based on
Autism Treatment Evaluation Checklist (ATEC)given pre and post to chiropractic care which comes from the ARI, and it is a parent survey. Ever take a look at the survey? There's no way to determine from that survey that symptom's from autism was resolved. There's not even an age related to peers of it. That's what he based his resolution claims on.

U fail to see how anything that Dr. May did improved any of the things he claims, and if he did, the child never had autism to begin with.
Wisdom

Williston Park, NY

#23 Feb 4, 2012
The quack washington said ..."Anyhow I can agree with you to an extend "friend". An autistic child should not be treated for autism by a chiropractor."

"to an extent"?

You just can't admit, not matter how bizarre this chiropractic claim, that you quacks have NO business treating autism or any other similar condition, be it psychiatric or otherwise.

Fact, you chiroquackers get NO, NONE, NADA, ZILCH, ZERO actual clinical experience in anything outside some simple neck and low back conditions.

Especially "wound care", you dumb ass lying quack washboy.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#24 Feb 5, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
The quack washington said ..."Anyhow I can agree with you to an extend "friend". An autistic child should not be treated for autism by a chiropractor."
"to an extent"?
You just can't admit, not matter how bizarre this chiropractic claim, that you quacks have NO business treating autism or any other similar condition, be it psychiatric or otherwise.
Fact, you chiroquackers get NO, NONE, NADA, ZILCH, ZERO actual clinical experience in anything outside some simple neck and low back conditions.
Especially "wound care", you dumb ass lying quack washboy.
First, here's the sort of professionalism the fraud, wisdom, offers you. The con wrote, "...you dumb ass lying quack washboy."
See? Very professional. A sign of an angry, jealous person who is desperate for attention.
Second, wisdom has no professional background, thus his frustration.
Third, wisdom regularly refers to nurses (yes, NURSES) as 'quacks'. Oh, but he knows.

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#25 Feb 5, 2012
Right. And you calling him a loser. liar and pathetic makes you better than he is or more a 'chiropractor' or having a professional background??? You show signs of an angry, jealous person who is desperate for attention.

Bottom line is Dr. May is a quack. Any seasoned parent who has a child with autism can smell one a mile away.

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#26 Feb 5, 2012
Chiropractors need to expose individuals who are making claims as such. Like I said before If the child has a mechanical musculoskeletal component involved, yes chiropractic can help that situation. Often the resolution of these musculoskeletal conditions can help reduce other symptoms,(not so much in Autism but in many other conditions some chiropractors claim to treat).

But I have to stress that chiropractic is not a treatment for Autism. There are natural ways in helping managing this condition and they can be brought to the attention of the patient, parent and more so to the primary physicians involved. It takes a team effort to manage Autism.

And I agree friend, this constant bickering and ranting from both Wisdom and Washington is both equally pathetic.

And before Wisdom again chimes in about all the unfounded techniques he confabulates, in which he has no source or rational source for it's a lie. I would love to debate him in a professional manner but I know thats expecting to much.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#27 Feb 5, 2012
friend wrote:
Right. And you calling him a loser. liar and pathetic makes you better than he is or more a 'chiropractor' or having a professional background??? You show signs of an angry, jealous person who is desperate for attention.
Bottom line is Dr. May is a quack. Any seasoned parent who has a child with autism can smell one a mile away.
Yes, it does indeed make me better than the fraud, wisdom, who regularly bangs the 'I'm the expert' bible. Wisdom is a fraud with no expertise, and no degrees. I'm a licensed, practicing chiropractor.
And I'm not defending anyone who treats autism. Most practitioners of any discipline, MD's and chiropractors included, have little insight on the cause and treatment.
Hey,'friend' if you want to worship a loser like wisdom, that's your business. Do it at your own peril. He wants you to fail just as he did. Misery loves company.
So, yes, I am much better than wisdom for exposing him as a pathetic loser.
And you,'friend' sound much like an angry loser yourself.

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#28 Feb 5, 2012
I come from a looooong line of family history of chiropractic consumers. My mom grew up with them as well as her 14 siblings as did me and my 5 siblings. So did my dad. There's no doubt in my mind that many issues are hereditary. I cant say for sure scoliosis is, but there's 5 including me who have it in 2 generations. Aside from that, a chiropractor greatly helped with a work comp neck injury I had in the 1990's.

That said, I also have family history of chiropractors causing irreversible damage due to injury they caused. Wisdom is correct in one manner that chiropractors often don't use the same standard of techniques and only in recent years have they also included
homeopathy and naturopathy to their practices. It never used to be like that. When you're a chiropractor, it doesn't take much to slip and injury a patient, or the patient moving suddenly at the time of adjustment.

Many people just roll their eyes when you talk about chiropractors, and many private insurances wont even cover them still today.

Finally, I will never believe for a millisecond that anything Dr. May did resulted in improved social skills language development, improvements seen in all four categories of the Autism Treatment Evaluation which was based on
Autism Treatment Evaluation Checklist (ATEC). I live in MN. Jordan is a dinky teeny tiny town in the middle of no where. Dr. May is obviously trying to generate clientele from the cities with this false claim of autism sysptom's resolution. Parent's who have children with autism get pretty sick of doctors like these, targeting children with autism who have have an agenda of their bank accounts. Claims by chiropractors such as Dr. May give a bad name tothe publics opinions of all chiropractors.

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#29 Feb 5, 2012
If a chiropractor is always preaching and praising "chiropractic" I can often assure you that they are associated with unfounded techniques.

A good chiropractor is patient centered and promotes health and wellness. They don't have to deceive and promote business rather they utilize their time informing patients on health related issues. Prevention is the best cure, and abide conditions that are uncontrollable the next best thing is for them to be educated on the proper care and referral.

I can say that chiropractic schools have come a great way. NYCC has established a well renowned program in which diagnosis is the center of the curriculum. It is imperative to have a complete history and neurological, orthopedic, etc examinations as soon as a new patient comes in the door.

X-rays should only be administered when clinically warranted etc I can go on. Like I said individuals need to be exposed, but Wisdom takes a few bad apples and makes confabulations that represents the wholes profession.
Vaccine Experimentation

Winnipeg, Canada

#30 Feb 5, 2012
friend wrote:
I come from a looooong line of family history of chiropractic consumers. My mom grew up with them as well as her 14 siblings as did me and my 5 siblings. So did my dad. There's no doubt in my mind that many issues are hereditary. I cant say for sure scoliosis is, but there's 5 including me who have it in 2 generations. Aside from that, a chiropractor greatly helped with a work comp neck injury I had in the 1990's.
That said, I also have family history of chiropractors causing irreversible damage due to injury they caused. Wisdom is correct in one manner that chiropractors often don't use the same standard of techniques and only in recent years have they also included
homeopathy and naturopathy to their practices. It never used to be like that. When you're a chiropractor, it doesn't take much to slip and injury a patient, or the patient moving suddenly at the time of adjustment.
Many people just roll their eyes when you talk about chiropractors, and many private insurances wont even cover them still today.
Finally, I will never believe for a millisecond that anything Dr. May did resulted in improved social skills language development, improvements seen in all four categories of the Autism Treatment Evaluation which was based on
Autism Treatment Evaluation Checklist (ATEC). I live in MN. Jordan is a dinky teeny tiny town in the middle of no where. Dr. May is obviously trying to generate clientele from the cities with this false claim of autism sysptom's resolution. Parent's who have children with autism get pretty sick of doctors like these, targeting children with autism who have have an agenda of their bank accounts. Claims by chiropractors such as Dr. May give a bad name tothe publics opinions of all chiropractors.
MN? I thought you were a crackhead from Harlem.

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Wisdom

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#31 Feb 5, 2012
Ok will any chiropractor here renounce and denounce the bizarre and untrue statement made by there fellow "licensed" quacker that he, as a chiropractor, is expertly trained in wound care?

Have any of you other quacks been trained in "wound care"? Can any of you quacks even tell the difference between an arterial wound and a venous stasis wound? Between a stage II pressure and excoriation?

Can any of you quacks be honest for even a second?

Can any of you quacks denounce the bizarre chiropractic "treatments" known as nucca, ak, activator, impulse, dnft, gonstead etc etc etc?

Can any of licensed chiropractors admit that there is virtually NO evidence to support the use of those bizarre "treatments"?

Did I call your colleague a "dumb ass lying quack"? Damn right I did. I, unlike you and your fellow quacks, have ZERO tolerance for chiropractic scams.

The field is filled with charlatans. It is the MAIN reason I left chiropractic.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#32 Feb 5, 2012
Not only does wisdom call all nurses quacks, he also condones the hundreds of thousands of deaths and injuries caused each year by unscrupulous doctors butchering and poisening patients. Says wisdom, "Medicine is not an exact science. Thousands of and injuries do occur. Hey, not my problem."
And THAT, coming from wisdom, someone who claims to be a failed chiropractor (even though he has no chiropractic degree or licesne) and a ER surgeon at a world class hospital with NO MD degree.
Right. We belive this phoney.
Ortho

Geneva, NY

#34 Feb 6, 2012
Not sure why Wisdom rants, or as to what his endeavor is? Perhaps he attended chiropractic school and is riddled with anger as to not passing boards or dropping out?
Wisdom

Williston Park, NY

#35 Feb 6, 2012
I didn't think that any of you chiroquackers would denounce the bizarre claim by your colleague that, as a chiropractor, he is not only expertly trained in examining and diagnosing wounds but treating them as well.

Ortho, thank you for responding as all chiropractors do. It was very demonstrative.

And wash boy, lying about calling nurses quacks and then bashing medicine is as low as one gets. but in the end you are chiropractors. And "truth", he he not an original thought in your body.

Thanks to all the chiropractors who post here. All supposedly "licensed".
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#36 Feb 6, 2012
Not only does wisdom call all nurses quacks, he also condones the hundreds of thousands of deaths and injuries caused each year by unscrupulous doctors butchering and poisening patients. Says wisdom, "Medicine is not an exact science. Thousands of and injuries do occur. Hey, not my problem."
And THAT, coming from wisdom, someone who claims to be a failed chiropractor (even though he has no chiropractic degree or licesne) and a ER surgeon at a world class hospital with NO MD degree.
Right. We belive this phoney.
Wisdom

Williston Park, NY

#37 Feb 6, 2012
The resident chiropractor is still at it. Geeesh! Just let it go. you don't really think that anyone outside of your fellow quacks believes that you are an expert at wound care? Do you?

Sorry for ruining your day. Now go back to your mom's basement and wait for your next patient.

Better yet, ben altadonna has a new get rich quick recipe for you chiropractors.
Oh wait, I think he was just indicted. Yes? NO? I do know that thousands of chiropractors have signed up with him. Poor suckers.
Even better though, "chirotalk" for all your chiropractic answers.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#38 Feb 6, 2012
Wisdom has referred to nurses (yes, you read right, NURSES)as 'quacks' dozens of times. Jerk.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#39 Feb 6, 2012
Here, the fraud and depraved con, wisdom, is banging the moral bible as if anyone should account to him.
The creep says things like, "would you denounce your fellow quack for this and that and this..."
Folks, wisdom is a nothing. He has zero authority He is weak. And he also is the most amoral poster here.
During the Haitian earthquake he said he'd rather let the earthquake victims suffer than allow the Christian chiropractors to help. The Christian chiropractors were not just going there to help them with chiropractic, but also with food and supplies. But wisdom, who nevered helped anyone in his life but himself, said, "Let the Haitians suffer. Too bad for them." Wisdom's words.
Second, when Dr. Karl Parker died, wisdom rejoiced and wished that Dr. Parker had suffered a long time before dying.
Third, when Dr. Sid Williams recently suffered a stroke, wisdom wished him "continued suffering in his wheelchair." Wisdom's EXACT words.
This is the sort of depraved creep who is making value judgements on chiropractors when he himself has no credentials.
Remember the above whenever wisdom posts. I'll keep on posting this in case anyone forgets.
DrCallahan

Rockville Centre, NY

#40 Feb 6, 2012
I for one will denounce my fellow, sad to say, chiropractor. No chiropractor is trained in wound care. Medical doctors and wound care specialists are the only professionals qualified to treat wounds.

The rest of "washington chiro"'s rants are too stupid to waste more typing on.

Hopefully, one day chiropractors who practice outside of their scope will be prosecuted. That day can't come soon enough.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#41 Feb 7, 2012
DrCallahan wrote:
I for one will denounce my fellow, sad to say, chiropractor. No chiropractor is trained in wound care. Medical doctors and wound care specialists are the only professionals qualified to treat wounds.
The rest of "washington chiro"'s rants are too stupid to waste more typing on.
Hopefully, one day chiropractors who practice outside of their scope will be prosecuted. That day can't come soon enough.
Too pathetic. "Cal" is the loser and depraved creep,'wisdom.' One and the same. The con can't cover his tracks. Funny, the only one who agrees with wisdom's lies is "drcallahan". Funny, how they come from the same area. Funny, isn't it? Pathetic, isn't it--that wisdom has to make up a poster to agree with him.
Thus, a repeat:
Here, the fraud and depraved con, wisdom, is banging the moral bible as if anyone should account to him.
The creep says things like, "would you denounce your fellow quack for this and that and this..."
Folks, wisdom is a nothing. He has zero authority He is weak. And he also is the most amoral poster here.
During the Haitian earthquake he said he'd rather let the earthquake victims suffer than allow the Christian chiropractors to help. The Christian chiropractors were not just going there to help them with chiropractic, but also with food and supplies. But wisdom, who nevered helped anyone in his life but himself, said, "Let the Haitians suffer. Too bad for them." Wisdom's words.
Second, when Dr. Karl Parker died, wisdom rejoiced and wished that Dr. Parker had suffered a long time before dying.
Third, when Dr. Sid Williams recently suffered a stroke, wisdom wished him "continued suffering in his wheelchair." Wisdom's EXACT words.
This is the sort of depraved creep who is making value judgements on chiropractors when he himself has no credentials.
Remember the above whenever wisdom posts. I'll keep on posting this in case anyone forgets.

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