Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

[Done my homework]

Leafy wrote:

Done my homework is an arrogant piece of dung.

Perhaps, but I notice you did not say I'm wrong on any point, nor have you presented anything contrary to anything I've said. Of course, whatever you may present would also have to be backed up.

Hmmm. If I'm arrogant, I can only say that I sure wish more people were like me. We wouldn't be in the fix we're in if more would stand up and speak out. Doesn't matter if we agree or not, what matters is the willingness to stand up for what we believe in, and be willing to change if/when we're proven wrong. This quality is called "Humility" or more clearly "Teachable".

[CarriedbyGrace]

Seriously, people better get off their butts and start doing some research. These vaccines are full of poisons and other ingredients. One look at what they are really doing here should wake you up!

[Done my homework]

CDV wrote:

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I would rather not mix religion in with government affairs. I follow the mindset of our founders. please leave religious affiliation out of the this.

Though the founders may have kept religions out, they all understood that the Constitutional Republic they were forming was inadequate for any other than a moral society based on Christian principles. The First Amendment was actually the brain-child of a minister in New England {New Hampshire I think}.

CDV wrote:

Statistics tell us that diseases such as influenza have sharply declined. Any secondary or unknown effects apart from allergies to these immunizations are purely speculatory and are not grounded in scientific fact. I, too, think about the children, and I would rather not have poor children die of diseases that should be eliminated due to current medical progress. I call into question the judgement of those who honestly believe that immunizations hurt children more than they help them, as many who have spent their entire lives studying medicine say otherwise.

If they choose not to allow their children to be vaccinated, is that reason enough for them to be forced into compliance, or stripped of their parental rights?

Many of your further points may or may not be valid, but I would encourage you to dig a little deeper. Much of what you call speculation is rooted in research that is excluded in the US peer review pool. This is becoming more prevalent in more disciplines/fields.

[Friend_2]

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[Geeze]

Another disaster brought to you by pharma.

http://www.tolerance.ca/Article.aspx...

[Done my homework]

Geeze wrote:

Another disaster brought to you by pharma.
http://www.tolerance.ca/Article.aspx...

A late friend of mine from Wales once told me of a study done on ground water around certain industrial plants owned by a major multi-national corporation that was polluted by a certain cocktail of waste chemicals. This cocktail feminized the indigenous species, increased the percentage of those born with both male and female organs resulting in neither functioning properly, and what males were left in the environment were apathetic at best toward propagating their species.

I'm thinking that maybe with several sets of eyes looking instead of just mine, maybe this research can be found again. The research was done independently as no corporation would have funded such research.

[Magically Delicious]

Done my homework wrote:

<quoted text>A late friend of mine from Wales once told me of a study done on ground water around certain industrial plants owned by a major multi-national corporation that was polluted by a certain cocktail of waste chemicals. This cocktail feminized the indigenous species, increased the percentage of those born with both male and female organs resulting in neither functioning properly, and what males were left in the environment were apathetic at best toward propagating their species.

I'm thinking that maybe with several sets of eyes looking instead of just mine, maybe this research can be found again. The research was done independently as no corporation would have funded such research.

So was the investigation done in Wales? Or are we just supposed to scour the entire globe for your elusive study? Your talking big with your worldwide contacts, however you aren't giving anybody anything of real substance to go on. Just a story with bold claims. You GO know it all. Of course that's because you've done your homework. In grade school anyhow...

[Jody]

I agree, vaccines are very dangerous. They are NOT the same as the ones us older ppl got in gradeschool. Big Pharma even uses ones that have expired, and they also know how dangerous they are. Vaccines have killed alot of kids and damaged others. Big Pharma does not care. They are only in it for the money, and if it makes ppl sick all the better. They can make money with the drugs they use to "treat" these problems. There are natural cures for alot of things but Big Pharma and the FDA are trying their best to keep that info from the people. They are actually trying to make you have a prescription for vitamin C! Hemp seed oil can kill cancer tumors but it is against the law to grow hemp, even tho it won't get u high. Jeez, how much money do they want? All of it I would say. Dam creeps.

[Rubin]

Magically Delicious wrote:

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So was the investigation done in Wales? Or are we just supposed to scour the entire globe for your elusive study? Your talking big with your worldwide contacts, however you aren't giving anybody anything of real substance to go on. Just a story with bold claims. You GO know it all. Of course that's because you've done your homework. In grade school anyhow...

You mean to say your not Magical after all.You sure are rude though.

[Magically Delicious]

Rubin wrote:

<quoted text>You mean to say your not Magical after all.You sure are rude though.

Maybe so. But if he wants help he will provide more details. Apparently he hasn't done ALL his homework...

[Rubin]

Jody wrote:

I agree, vaccines are very dangerous. They are NOT the same as the ones us older ppl got in gradeschool. Big Pharma even uses ones that have expired, and they also know how dangerous they are. Vaccines have killed alot of kids and damaged others. Big Pharma does not care. They are only in it for the money, and if it makes ppl sick all the better. They can make money with the drugs they use to "treat" these problems. There are natural cures for alot of things but Big Pharma and the FDA are trying their best to keep that info from the people. They are actually trying to make you have a prescription for vitamin C! Hemp seed oil can kill cancer tumors but it is against the law to grow hemp, even tho it won't get u high. Jeez, how much money do they want? All of it I would say. Dam creeps.

I'm with you on this. I just read Big Pharma is buying up supplement companies so I guess they do want it all and of course do away with their competition.Then you have the government agencies suckin up to these crooks and it's getting like a bad dream.

[Apples]

Top Mod 8 wrote:

Should the state should mandate immunizations for your children? Do you feel they are safe for all children. Do they cause other health issues like autism? Should the state also pay for them as well if they are requiring them?

I don't believe these vaccines are safe for children. Genetics can be compared to a gun, and the environment is like the bullet firing. So no in many ways the vaccines don't cause the autism, and it can not unless you are pre-disposed for it on a different level.

The vaccines we get today are much more harmful, and there is so much money behind each of these vaccines the drug companies are not going go down without a fight. How many times have you seen a drug pass the FDA only to be pulled years later after the general public starts having casualties?

[ah hell]

Mandate sterilizations instead. These lowlifes that keep farming babies are worse than the damn flu...

[Geeze]

Oops, not just Finland....

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/infl...

[Done my homework]

Magically Delicious wrote:

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So was the investigation done in Wales? Or are we just supposed to scour the entire globe for your elusive study? Your talking big with your worldwide contacts, however you aren't giving anybody anything of real substance to go on. Just a story with bold claims. You GO know it all. Of course that's because you've done your homework. In grade school anyhow...

In Wales? I don't think so, but the UK was part of the research. Do I recall which country? No, if I had I'd have included that info. I do remember that one of the prominent chemicals is also common around volcanoes; does that help any? I didn't think it would, but if it does, GREAT!

Global contacts? Duh, World Wide Web, MD. Nothing impressive about that at all any more.

Homework is an ongoing thing, and the responsibility of everyone that cares for their family and home. The burden of "keeping up" is on each one of us, so don't disparage others that do. If you were willing to keep up yourself, I think you'd show more respect, providing you understand what that is.

[Done my homework]

Magically Delicious wrote:

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Maybe so. But if he wants help he will provide more details. Apparently he hasn't done ALL his homework...

Hmmm. From "know it all" to "hasn't done ALL his homework"? Looks like someone can't reach the bar.

Have you noticed? Others are catching on to your game.

[Done my homework]

Rubin wrote:

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I'm with you on this. I just read Big Pharma is buying up supplement companies so I guess they do want it all and of course do away with their competition.Then you have the government agencies suckin up to these crooks and it's getting like a bad dream.

I've been thinking that the top 1/2 dozen pharma corporations have been consolidating for some time now, preparing to go global at some point in the near future. I think you're on the right track with this line. Watch multinational sales/mergers.

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[Done my homework]

ah hell wrote:

Mandate sterilizations instead. These lowlifes that keep farming babies are worse than the damn flu...

American Eugenics Movement

Inspiration for Hitler's eugenics programs to breed the ultimate Aryan.

Later became Planned Parenthood.

[KnightLord]

For those of you that think the government would/could do you no harm, here's something to ponder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Burk

This program/information was not aired in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Do the research behind Fluoride, and balance that with it being put in our water supply, and then tell me that unqualified trust in government is justifiable.