New JO Volleyball Program

New JO Volleyball Program

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mom

Creedmoor, NC

#1 Mar 17, 2011
I was considering JO for my daughter for next year (I think she would be in the 11s or 12s), and would like to hear from people who are in the program this year. What is your opinion? Are you as happy or happier with the program now as compared to the one in the past? Any insight would be greatly appreciated before I invest this kind of time and money. Thank you.
mom

Jonesboro, AR

#2 Mar 17, 2011
My daughter is in it, and its a highly expensive program. Most likely we will not be in it next year. The age your talking about doesn't travel as much. In these days of tight budgets, I can't afford it anymore. They will pressure you to go to addition tournaments later in the summer, that are located at these nice places and I guess its all paid for, for the coaches, so they love it, and get a paid vacation. But its tough on the working family. Its also highly political. Little Susie is playing this position because Little Susie's mom is big friends with Big Coach kinda deal. While Little Stella is a better player, pays the same amount of money to play, but mom is not a friend of the coach.
hello

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Mar 18, 2011
Good program, but very political and clickish. If she isn't already friends of the other girls playing it's hard to get into the click. Best players aren't necessarily those getting the positions or the playing time. It's very much about who you know and who you are friends with. If you are already part of the "JO click" then she will be fine. If not, you may want to reconsider before spending all that time and money because she could feel uncomfortable and not welcomed.
guest

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Mar 18, 2011
JO volleyball is a big committment of both time and money. The younger teams don't do as much traveling, however there could be expensive tournaments from time to time. The program as a whole is a good idea. However, like the others have indicated it is very very political. From team placement to playing time and positions you are dealing with alot of parent and coach favorites and politics.
Money Pit

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Mar 19, 2011
The people supposedly leading this program now, are certainly not leaders in the sense from a organizational standpoint. They expect to just drop what you have planned at the last minute and go do this tournament across the country. While not caring about people having jobs, and paying bills. The coaches who coach get a free ticket for coaching so obviously they want to do all the nice location tournaments like the poster above mentioned. The new leaders have also basically crapped on the long standing people who originally organized this program. They went in and basically hand picked their own teams and put the poor performance players with the coaches they didn't like. And told them if they didn't like it they could leave. Some of the parents are also just blanant assholes. There are a few coaches, who are certainly there for the kids, one of them is named Fred. Great guy and awesome coach. Another is a guy name Joe T, real good coach been there for a long time and got crapped on and he left and is doing his own team. We have been a part of this program, and it will most likely be the last year. Tired of the politics, tired of smart ass two faced coaches, tired of seeing the favortism and BS. Some of the coaches act like teenagers, always up in everyone's business, spreading gossip from parent to parent. Smile to your face then talk about you behind your back kinda crap. I guess you call that as the others mention clicks or whatever. A bunch of twoface people for sure.
opinion

United States

#6 Mar 20, 2011
These people are exactly right the new people leading the program have made it a "whos who" volleyball league. It is getting a bad name, and that's too bad because it was a good program.
Line Judge

Jonesboro, AR

#7 Mar 20, 2011
Its all about who can I place around my own personal child on the court. And then how can I incorporate her friends. With the sole goal for my daughter to be the standout, and get her picture on Gameday magazine. Its all about running down other players because we don't want them on that team. Its about adult coaches believing teenagers lies and gossip. Its about looking down your nose at the scum rednecks while I am this great coach and look at my daughter how great she is. You know nothing, I have state championships. I will play who I want and shut your mouth. Oh you want to pay me your dues, oh your so sweet. Its about peddeling JO to all the girls at school and brow beat them to play, or you maynot be playing for the school. Wink wink.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#8 Mar 20, 2011
I think you mean clique...not "click"
hello wrote:
Good program, but very political and clickish. If she isn't already friends of the other girls playing it's hard to get into the click. Best players aren't necessarily those getting the positions or the playing time. It's very much about who you know and who you are friends with. If you are already part of the "JO click" then she will be fine. If not, you may want to reconsider before spending all that time and money because she could feel uncomfortable and not welcomed.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#9 Mar 20, 2011
Welcome to the world of the Valley View coaches. You are right about them acting like teenagers. It is hand picked and the two main people are the biggest fakes ever. I just believe what goes around comes around. As far as winning state championships...She lost when it mattered and since year before last there has been no competition. It would be like playing a little kids team. Those who throw their weight around usually have plenty to throw around. Don't waste your time or money. It only gets worse in school vb.
Jacob

Jonesboro, AR

#10 Mar 21, 2011
guest wrote:
Welcome to the world of the Valley View coaches. You are right about them acting like teenagers. It is hand picked and the two main people are the biggest fakes ever. I just believe what goes around comes around. As far as winning state championships...She lost when it mattered and since year before last there has been no competition. It would be like playing a little kids team. Those who throw their weight around usually have plenty to throw around. Don't waste your time or money. It only gets worse in school vb.
Agree, why did they not have a signing day on VV campus of that good VB player who got a VB scholarship? I thought that was real interesting. I have known of a few players that have quit the VB program there because of some pretty crude tactics I hear by the coaches. You hear stuff but you only hear the one side, so you don't really know all the facts. But there is certainly a pattern in recent years. Just my gut feeling, from what I hear and trusting some of the sources I hear stuff from. The coaches, will pretty much use any tactic to get results to highlight their resume. Its not about the kids, as it is about championships. If you lose a few kids so be it and I am not talking about poor playing kids, I am talking about excellent VB players who certainly could help a team win. Oh well, its their sandbox, and if you don't like it, move on. And if you don't believe me, just ask them.
guest

United States

#11 Mar 21, 2011
Can anyone remember who was on the state champs 3 years ago? 2 years ago? Last year? Funny all these coaches and parents think little Johnny or Suzzie will be the next big college prospect to come out on NEA. Football, Basketball, Soccer, Volleyball, Tennis Etc. It is all the same 5 years for now who cares? Got caught up in this same illiusion with a daughter, Outstanding athlete. All state in 3 sports now in college and going to graduate. Ask her and she will tell you none of that JR and High school stuff mattered. With the son we have taken a different approach to enjoy him and rejoice in his success. Uplifing him to compete but with grace and honor. No pressure. 100 years from now WHO CARES? Is it really about the kids or parent want a be?
Agree

Jonesboro, AR

#12 Mar 21, 2011
guest wrote:
Can anyone remember who was on the state champs 3 years ago? 2 years ago? Last year? Funny all these coaches and parents think little Johnny or Suzzie will be the next big college prospect to come out on NEA. Football, Basketball, Soccer, Volleyball, Tennis Etc. It is all the same 5 years for now who cares? Got caught up in this same illiusion with a daughter, Outstanding athlete. All state in 3 sports now in college and going to graduate. Ask her and she will tell you none of that JR and High school stuff mattered. With the son we have taken a different approach to enjoy him and rejoice in his success. Uplifing him to compete but with grace and honor. No pressure. 100 years from now WHO CARES? Is it really about the kids or parent want a be?
Agree 100% these coaches talk a great game, but bottom line they are just concerned about their record. They practice these kids way to much, and school as it is, is already to much. Kids need to have down time. I know parents who push their kids, and put them in three different sports, and then live their life through their kid. Coaches don't help either. They love parents who live through their kids sports accomplishments. And it starts at a very young age. I am seeing parents yell and scream at 7 year olds like its the super bowl. Some how we equat sport success with success in life and people let me tell you, its education first and foremost. Its funny to see coaches act like big shots and they may make $35,000 grand a year. Which in todays time is nothing. But they got some plastic trophies to show, or some cheap $2 medallions around their neck. Or they can brag about being some champ of some division know one even knows about. I have not seen one volleyball player around this area, go on and make a rich living. The nerds back in my day of school are the ones I should have admired and followed because they made it somewhere in life. Because the popular sports jocks of back then are unemployed and on welfare living through their little children, and going home to the trailer park.
attorney

Jonesboro, AR

#13 Mar 21, 2011
A public school coach should not be allowed to solicit a a non-public school sports program while on school duty time. This is a very expensive program, and to have coaches solicit players on school duty could breach a teachers contract and could find them in a state ethics complaint with the ADE.

Why? First off if any coach received any compensation refund for travel expenses, gas,food,hotel. One could deem that as a expense paid trip, which it is. No problem if your not pushing the program while on duty being paid to teach or coach a kid for the state.

But when you do solicit or advertise, or in any way make a kid at school feel like they have to play said program outside of school, if they wish to continue school program then your flirting with a ethics violation.

You dealing with perception, from a kid. Very risky. You can get in a whole host of problems with parents. For example JO players could appear to have favortism in school program by coaches. You have coaches who could feel obligated to play JO player more in public school program so they don't lose off school program. You have coaches having bias toward off school players.

All of this would not be a problem is said coach was not a public school coach.
attorney

Jonesboro, AR

#14 Mar 22, 2011
I know one highly regarded recent retired VB coach who would not participate in such programs for those reasons. She coached for 30 something years. She knew the pitfalls of participating in such programs. She would have loved to participate to some degrees but there was just to many possible things one could encounter. Her loyalty was with the school and any player she had, could participate in summer camps she put on herself. Camps are different I might add from a organized high dollar competitive program. Where not all kids can afford said program.

Saying all this, I have heard rumor VV and some others highly pushes the JO program on their players. I guess they have not had the complaints to stop the soliciting. If any of those coaches are in any way controlling, managing, coaching any part of that off school program, and soliciting the program at school. There could be some huge potential problems. God forbid a child gets killed in travel for that program, and said child and parents felt compelled, obligated to participate so they could play on the public school side.
guest

United States

#15 Mar 22, 2011
Parents andso called Coaches should be ashamed! It is not my place to judge yet what you reap you shall sow. All want a be
gradmother

Jonesboro, AR

#16 Mar 22, 2011
JO has been a great experience for my granddaugh ter. Her coach is a great teacher and all of the girls has made tremendous progress. These coaches aren't paid. They practice and travel with these kids on their own time. If you think spending the weekend in the gym is a vacation you must not get out a lot. My granddaughter has made friends with girls from lots of different schools and it has been fun. We are looking foreward to next year. Shame on you people for inserting your resentment towards Valley View's successful program in your comments. I think thei record stands on it's own merit.
A New Me

Jonesboro, AR

#17 Mar 22, 2011
It's exspensive. Somebody stepped up to the plate to keep the program alive, some credit is due there.

There is a less exspensive program out of Paragould you should check into as well.

Same petty BS exists now as did under the former coach. Sour grape parents who always know better than proven successful coaches.
coach

Jonesboro, AR

#18 Mar 22, 2011
Coach is awesome
Moved

Little Rock, AR

#19 Mar 22, 2011
I wouldn't waste my $$ on an organization with so much disorganization.
Drew

Calhan, CO

#20 Mar 22, 2011
mom wrote:
I was considering JO for my daughter for next year (I think she would be in the 11s or 12s), and would like to hear from people who are in the program this year. What is your opinion? Are you as happy or happier with the program now as compared to the one in the past? Any insight would be greatly appreciated before I invest this kind of time and money. Thank you.
There is a new JO club out of Paragould called the Aces (I think) that has a 10s/11s team playing this year so you might want to check with them. Friend of mine has a kid that plays and they've been pleased with everything so far, plus it is much less expensive than the AR Jr's program from what I gather.

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