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KLGO

Lake Charles, LA

#1 Jun 17, 2008
Got a question for the idiot citizens who live in Westside school district. Are you stupid or what. You turn down 2 milage rate votes for the school and now the school is about to be consolidated, or worse closed down. Congrats. If you are a parent you should be feeling pretty good about right now. If you don't have kids I bet you got family that has kids who go to school there. Most likely Jonesboro will take over, and probably VV.
KLGO

Lake Charles, LA

#2 Jun 17, 2008
And guess what, now you will pay a higher milage rate plus your kids will bus longer drives, and you will lose your schools traditions.
America First

United States

#3 Jun 18, 2008
KLGO,

I believe the millage rate for the Westside school district is already among the highest in the state.

And from the news reports I've read, the Westside school district is on its way out of financial woes, and was only put on the distressed list because of strict interpretation of the rules imposed by the state.

Finally, have you ever wondered why the local school districts are required to fund the schools, when it is the state of Arkansas that that is mandated that responsibility by the Arkansas Constitution?
JHS

Bossier City, LA

#4 Jun 18, 2008
KLGO wrote:
plus your kids will bus longer drives, and you will lose your schools traditions.
Bussing never hurt any kid. And I think it's great to make children relinquish traditions...it teaches them at a young age that nothing in life is constant and that the nonsense customs imposed by the world are fleeting and always subject to change. Let's get these kids into Blazer or Hurricane jerseys...they'll be stronger for it down the road.
courtesy

Lake Charles, LA

#5 Jun 18, 2008
Westside millage rate is one of the lowest by far, look it up. VV is one of the highest. Westside has not passed a millage rate increase in a long time, thats why they are on the list, the residents want pass it. The state gives the residents a choice to keep up with their standard, or be consolidated.
J-boro

State University, AR

#6 Jun 18, 2008
The reason a lot of millage increases do not pass (Jonesboro and Westside) is that the landlords who own property in those school districts would have to pay higher property taxes on the rental homes. The landlords are usually the ones you see on TV and in the newspaper who are against any increase and convince everyone it is a bad idea. Truth be known, these landlords have children in other districts or no children at all.
That is the major reason behind the failed Jonesboro millage for years.
mandy

Lake Charles, LA

#7 Jun 18, 2008
If taxpayers weren't already taxed to the gills then maybe our ears wouldn't automatically be closed to any request for increase.
America First

United States

#8 Jun 18, 2008
courtesy,

Thanks for the correction. It was indeed VV that I was thinking of. Sorry for the misinfo.
courtesy

Lake Charles, LA

#9 Jun 18, 2008
I would guess there are some landlords, but I don't believe they are the majority in the district by far. Jonesboro has a problem passing a millage rate also. I recall when Jonesboro's attempt failed and one guy interviewed said they need to manage their money more wise. Well I agree to a point, but lets look at how much Jonesboro has grown, and realize if a school is still operating on basically the same money they had back ten years ago, with more kids coming in yearly, how much are you going to keep cutting before the education side starts to take real hits. Westside has grown, and someone can correct me, but I don't think they have had a increase since 94. Thats 14 years. I understand they cut 9 teacher slots and have done some more stuff just to stay afloat.

Westside is a slice of heaven compared to other school districts. I really hate to see the residents not help their school. There are some taxes I will gripe about until the moon turns green, but helping our kids is foremost IMO.

VV is the model example and its showing with the grades those kids produce. What they have won the golden apple award 4 times in a roll. People are jumping hoops to move in that district with a high millage rate.

If home owners would realize whether they have kids or not, having a great school increases their home value greatly. Take a house in VV and Westside, build them the same, and see which brings a higher price. I will bank the VV home will.
America First

United States

#10 Jun 19, 2008
If the amount of taxes owed is the millage rate times 1/5 of the assessed value of the property, how can the amount of money the schools receive ever be reduced? The assessed value of property rises over time. Why would it ever be necessary to rase the millage rate?

And shouldn't an election to raise property taxes be voted on only by property owners? It seems very unfair to me for those who don't own property to vote for higher taxes that only affects those who do own property.
Wolf

Bossier City, LA

#11 Jun 19, 2008
America First wrote:
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And shouldn't an election to raise property taxes be voted on only by property owners?
I agree. The founding fathers intended for only property owners to vote in elections. It's the American way. The problem with our country is all these snot-nosed plebeians who assert the right to enter the voting booth.
mandy

Lake Charles, LA

#12 Jun 19, 2008
Wolf wrote:
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I agree. The founding fathers intended for only property owners to vote in elections. It's the American way. The problem with our country is all these snot-nosed plebeians who assert the right to enter the voting booth.
America First as a point. I wouldn't want someone coming in my house and spending my money for me. Its basically the same thing... But realistically, how many committed voters are there who don't own land anyway? I just assume that there are not a bunch, but maybe i'm wrong.
ehh

Lake Charles, LA

#13 Jun 19, 2008
mandy wrote:
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America First as a point. I wouldn't want someone coming in my house and spending my money for me. Its basically the same thing... But realistically, how many committed voters are there who don't own land anyway? I just assume that there are not a bunch, but maybe i'm wrong.
aye, you're wrong, there's tons and tons of people that rent as opposed to owning their own property.
axe

State University, AR

#14 Jun 23, 2008
I would think that most people living in the district pay some school tax. Most renters have automobiles and some other personal property that is subject to taxation. Granted, the land/home owner carries the largest share of the tax burden but anyone who resides in the district and owns property will pay some taxes.

axe

Since: Jun 08

Moark

#15 Jun 23, 2008
Plus, landlords can pass the tax increase on to the renters when the lease is renewed.
ehh

Lake Charles, LA

#16 Jun 23, 2008
axe wrote:
I would think that most people living in the district pay some school tax. Most renters have automobiles and some other personal property that is subject to taxation. Granted, the land/home owner carries the largest share of the tax burden but anyone who resides in the district and owns property will pay some taxes.
If you are referring to what I stated, I was only pointing out that there were loads of people renting as opposed to owning their home. I was not implying that those renters do not pay ANY property taxes, I was until a little over a year ago one of those people that rented, I know very well that they pay taxes on cars, trucks, boats, etc, etc, etc.

axe

Since: Jun 08

Moark

#17 Jun 23, 2008
Actually, ehh, I was not commenting on your post. I do agree with you that there are loads of people renting as opposed to owning their home. In fact, I am currently renting while looking for a house to purchase in the Westside School District.
jborogirl

Jonesboro, AR

#18 Jul 1, 2008
Westside did not cut 9 teacher spots! They were para professional or assistant jobs. Putting kids in Hurricane or Blazers jerseys isn't going to help. Jonesboro can't pass a milage either! And those Westside kids were #2 just below VV in all but 2 scores this year. And no one said anything about shutting Westside down. The school is hoping to come off the fiscal distress list in January. Rumors get started by people talking when they don't know the details!!!!
your

Nashville, AR

#19 Jul 2, 2008
Courtesy, I think the Jonesboro school system is not growing like you think. I don't have exact numbers but they may be actually graduating fewer students than in past years. The adm. at Jonesboro has a perception problem-to alot of people in the community it seems there are too many administrators for the size of the school system. If it were a for profit business, there would probably be fewer folks in the adm. building. Just a thought for discussion-if anybody has hard numbers on students please chip in.
jack

Harrisburg, AR

#20 Oct 1, 2008
jonesboro schools are crap and are well on there way to gang eruption

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