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Little Rock, AR

#25 Feb 11, 2013
Morally bankrupt wrote:
Ok I'm not going to try to put everything I think into words. Some of the things you would belittle maybe you wouldn't you actually seem to just want a discussion. With the new healthcare bill we will lose the right to the best healthcare there will be panels to make the decisions as to who is the better choice to receive treatment and who just gets medicated. It will happen. I dont live like a Christian but there is a big push to remove all things having to do with God. Congress bows to Obamas will. He really has no real work experience he was a community organizer,don't think he ever did an honest days work in his life I don't know if any politicians have. But at least the man who lost to Obama did have a successful career made money operated under a budget. We are spending more than we make the money will run out what happens when we can't borrow any more. How will the countries call in their debts? I know this is off topic and I have no answers as to how to fix it what happening to the country but the road we are traveling is the wrong one
I can understand your concerns. The Affordable Care Act, as it eventually passed, doesn't require you to change your healthcare insurance that you now have. The panels and other things you are concerned about were demonized by the opposition, which was well financed with millions from the insurance industry, and have no effect on private health insurance policies. Things like "Death panels for grandma" were the fiction of Sarah Palin and other vocal luminaries dedicated to scaring the American people so they would oppose an overhaul of a multi-billion dollar for profit model of American healthcare. We have over 50 million people with no access to medical care other than the ER. That's wrong on moral grounds and it end up costing the tax payers millions of dollars we pay for those ER visits and hospitalization for things that could have been prevented with early intervention. We were the only modern industrialized nation in the world that had not embraced some form of universal healthcare coverage. There are many much better examples of countries with more efficient plans than Britain and Canada which we heard about constantly.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#26 Feb 11, 2013
As to the God in government institutions, I support the separation of church and state. We are a nation made up of Jewish, Hindu, Islam, Sikhism, Deist, Wiccan among others plus atheist, agnostics, and secular humanist. All of the people of these various beliefs pay taxes and it would be wrong to recognize just the Christian majority's God in government and school. My God doesn't need public validation by putting his name on money or buildings. People pray in government buildings and schools everyday; they just do it silently. As long as they have pop quizzes, I can assure you prayer will remain in the public schools. Try looking at it from the perspective of if you belonged to one of the other faiths and your kids were made to sit quietly for a prayer to a God that wasn't yours. We are a country of many faiths and we need to recognize and respect the right of people to worship as the chose the way the founders provided for in the Constitution.

As to gun laws, I don't think there is going to be anything other than a universal background check which I support to make it through the Congress. I think people were shocked by another school shooting and felt the need to do something. As time passed and the facts were brought into the discussion, it at least became questionable as to whether further laws were going to do anything to make schools safer.

Now we've had a civil exchange of ideas which was a lot more productive than just sniping at each other. We may not change our opinions but we can respectfully agree to disagree.
Morally bankrupt

Oklahoma City, OK

#27 Feb 11, 2013
Well we will see. I think it's a sark road ahead. But I don't really mind discussing things with you as you don't want to scream at me and call me names if I don't agree with you. Hope you are right. It would be nice if I was wrong.
Poor thing

Manila, AR

#28 Feb 11, 2013
I didn't make it to the Paragould show either, how was the turnout at both of them? I'll probably go to the jonesboro show this weekend just wondering what to expect. I figure it will still be cheaper to buy online and give 20 to the pawn shop for paperwork.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#29 Feb 11, 2013
Morally bankrupt wrote:
Well we will see. I think it's a sark road ahead. But I don't really mind discussing things with you as you don't want to scream at me and call me names if I don't agree with you. Hope you are right. It would be nice if I was wrong.
I'm relatively new to Topix. I'm recooping for surgery and have to spend a lot of time with my leg elevated. I started out visiting this site and was amazed as some of comments but I've come to realize that there are people that come here to discuss issues and present their opinion. There are plenty who will spew venom but there are also some that actually enjoy a verbal debate and can do it without going batshit. I try not to be verbally abusive unless someone does it to me first or makes a statement I find offensive. I hope my visit here will limited to a month give or take but I've gotten burned out on news sites and social media and find it interesting to see how people think or don't as the case sometimes is. I hope I have shared my opinions on your concerns without any animosity.
Wow

Blytheville, AR

#30 Feb 12, 2013
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I'll agree that private gun ownership make it highly difficult for an occupation force to try and operate in the US in a hypothetical scenario. You only have to look at Iraq & Iran to see that having guns doesn't keep prevent a military force from occupying an area though it can damn sure exact a tremendous toll. Great Britain found out it's just not worth the attrition to try and maintain an occupation army in a country that hates your presence back in the 1900s. What keeps the US safe from invasion is our military might projected from the American armed forces. We have formidable National Guard units that are now battle tested veterans. However, our military might is the angry pit bull at the end of the chain and no country wants that dog unleashed on them! That's what keeps other countries from even considering trying to invade the US.
I guess that explains why we are still fighting a force that will fight us till death, regardless of the cost. These people don't care how bad we act or appear to be, if we don't make decisive, accurate and total devastation strikes. If we show we are hesitant, in wiping out the opposing force, they will continue to fight to the bloody end, and I don't mean we have to use anything other than conventional weapons, just very big ones. Pit bulls are only effective if they are not on a leash.

Since: Aug 10

Cathouse Mouse

#31 Feb 12, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
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I'm relatively new to Topix. I'm recooping for surgery and have to spend a lot of time with my leg elevated. I started out visiting this site and was amazed as some of comments but I've come to realize that there are people that come here to discuss issues and present their opinion. There are plenty who will spew venom but there are also some that actually enjoy a verbal debate and can do it without going batshit. I try not to be verbally abusive unless someone does it to me first or makes a statement I find offensive. I hope my visit here will limited to a month give or take but I've gotten burned out on news sites and social media and find it interesting to see how people think or don't as the case sometimes is. I hope I have shared my opinions on your concerns without any animosity.
I find your willingness to stay civil in discussions refreshing and welcomed.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#33 Feb 12, 2013
In Afghanistan we watched these bedoin tribesmen fight the Russians and, with a little help from us on equipment, wage a war of attrition until the Soviets had enough. The rural Afghanis seem to be happiest when they're fighting somebody. Iraq was similar because some British cartographer drew up a geographical country that put three groups that hated each other and have rivalries going back hundreds of years. We thought they were just going to be tickled as hell that we'd liberated them from Sadam that they'd welcome us with open arms. And we launched our military operation without an exit strategy which didn't sit well with the Pentagon planners but they were over-ruled by Rumsfeld. Hell of a mess. CM, I enjoy the conversations with people that really want to share their point of view and I find it humorous how you rattle so many cages with your provocative style.

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