who exactly does obamacare help?

who exactly does obamacare help?

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guest

Jonesboro, AR

#1 Sep 25, 2013
I'm really stumped.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#2 Sep 26, 2013
It helps the Socialist control one more aspect of your life.
gw busch

United States

#3 Sep 26, 2013
Lazy blacks,
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#4 Sep 26, 2013
You can't give somethng to someone who doesn't pay for it without first taking it from someone who does pay for it!
That being said, Obama Care is for the people who don't work and still want health care just like those that do work. Equalize the wealth just like he said he wanted to do 5 years ago! Give some of the workers money to those who are to damn lazy to work bu think they "deserve" health care. Like Obama says, everyone "deserves" health care.News Flash- You don't "eserve" shit unless you get your lazy ass out there and work for it. America is going to the dogs right before our eyes. But guess what? Obama is going to bring us change. Sure the hell is! My change from my pocket to those who voted for him. Worst President the U.S. has ever had.
indianjoe

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Sep 26, 2013
92% of the blacks that voted, voted for Obama. That is about as stupid as me voting for Hitler because my dad is a german.
Didn't have a clue what he stood for. But hey, he is a black guy. A freakin black guy that is ruining this country. I have nothing against blacks and have some good friends that are black. And the ones I know think he is an idiot too!
Fo Show

Cabot, AR

#6 Sep 26, 2013
guest wrote:
I'm really stumped.
The insurance exchange that opens October 1st will offer people like me who purchase their own private health insurance policies 4 different levels of coverage at a more competitive price than I've previously been able to purchase. In essence it will give me the opportunity to switch from my current policy for my family and I and buy better coverage and at prices similar to group plans and you are guaranteed exceptance and no excluding pre-existing conditions. An article I read a few days ago said that the policies that will be offered ended up costing about 25% less than projected. This will also allow younger individuals & families who haven't had health insurance to obtain it a much better price and the tax credit. That's a couple of examples that I can tell you right off the bat.

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#7 Sep 26, 2013
indianjoe wrote:
92% of the blacks that voted, voted for Obama. That is about as stupid as me voting for Hitler because my dad is a german.
Didn't have a clue what he stood for. But hey, he is a black guy. A freakin black guy that is ruining this country. I have nothing against blacks and have some good friends that are black. And the ones I know think he is an idiot too!
You're a German named "indian joe"? I've found without exception,
when someone declares they're not a racist ,they surely are. I guess the black people you are accquainted with "know their place".
And last but not least, what in the world does President Obama's skin color have to do with anything?

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indianjoe

Jonesboro, AR

#10 Sep 26, 2013
Hogballs wrote:
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You're a German named "indian joe"? I've found without exception,
when someone declares they're not a racist ,they surely are. I guess the black people you are accquainted with "know their place".
And last but not least, what in the world does President Obama's skin color have to do with anything?
You should know about racism! This may be a news flash to you but as a % and general picture the people who have a need for free health care is the blacks. Not all and not only but looking at the big picture. I didn't say the president being black had anything to do with anything-you did. And my black friends are nice people and aren't "in thier place" as you said. You my friend , are delusional.

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#11 Sep 26, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Funny , the biggest racist of all commenting on racism .
Funny you should say that, now back it up with any tangible proof.
Your mouth is writing checks your ass can't cover.
Jeb

Pocahontas, AR

#12 Sep 26, 2013
One important group would be those that would be denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition.

Thanks to it, my brother will finally be able to acquire health insurance. He has the funds to do so, but no insurance provider would cover him if not for the Affordable Care Act.
Answer

Jonesboro, AR

#13 Sep 26, 2013
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You can't give somethng to someone who doesn't pay for it without first taking it from someone who does pay for it!
Like Medicare?

Everyone who works pays FICA which funds Medicare.

But not everyone who works has healthcare insurance.

So if you are over 65 and on Medicare then the working poor are paying for you to have insurance that they do not have.

Why should someone who can't afford insurance be taxed to pay for other's insurance?

Eliminate the FICA tax on the low income Wal-Mart workers or temps at Staffmark and so they can buy their own insurance instead of taxing them to pay for Medicare.
Fo Show

Cabot, AR

#14 Sep 26, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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I have a bridge for sale, are you interested ?


It's not my fault you don't read or do any research but it's easy to say there's something wrong with something you don't have the faintest clue about. If ignorance is bliss, then you are probably one blissful pilgrim.
Answer

Jonesboro, AR

#15 Sep 26, 2013
BLITZER: A healthy 30-year-old young man has a good job [AND PAYS FICA TAX WHICH FUNDS HEALTHCARE FOR...], makes a good living, but decides, you know what? I'm not going to spend $200 or $300 a month for health insurance because I'm healthy, I don't need it. But something terrible happens, all of a sudden he needs it.
Who's going to pay if he goes into a coma, for example? Who pays for that?

PAUL: Well, in a society that you accept welfarism and socialism, he expects the government to take care of him.[EVEN THOUGH HE HAS BEEN PAYING FOR HEALTH INSURANCE, JUST NOT FOR HIMSELF]

BLITZER: Well, what do you want?

PAUL: But what he should do is whatever he wants to do, and assume responsibility for himself. My advice to him would have a major medical policy, but not be forced --

BLITZER: But he doesn't have that. He doesn't have it, and he needs intensive care for six months. Who pays?

PAUL: That's what freedom is all about, taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to prepare and take care of everybody --[UNLESS THEY'RE 65 YEARS OLD OR OLDER, THEN THEY HAVE 30 YEAR OLDS TO PAY FOR THEIR MEDICARE.]


BLITZER: But Congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?

[SURE BECAUSE HE ISN'T ABLE TO PAY FICA IF HE CAN'T WORK, SO WHAT GOOD IS HE?]
Fo Show

Cabot, AR

#17 Sep 26, 2013
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Like Medicare?
Everyone who works pays FICA which funds Medicare.
But not everyone who works has healthcare insurance.
So if you are over 65 and on Medicare then the working poor are paying for you to have insurance that they do not have.
Why should someone who can't afford insurance be taxed to pay for other's insurance?
Eliminate the FICA tax on the low income Wal-Mart workers or temps at Staffmark and so they can buy their own insurance instead of taxing them to pay for Medicare.
The thing is that by paying into the system (Medicare) they will be eligible for Medicare when they reach the age requirement or should they become disabled. Most of the people without health insurance end up having to use an ER, a big percentage of which can't pay for the visit so all the taxpayers end up paying for those ER visits. I wish there were clinics available for so many hard working people who just don't have the money. The fact that so many people will be able to buy various levels of health insurance coverage. I don't mind that my tax dollars & health insurance premiums end up paying for a lot of people who can't afford it, especially those that are working but just don't earn enough to get by.
Rupert B Jigglebottom

Springdale, AR

#18 Sep 26, 2013
So, how bad do you teabaggers want to repeal Obamacare?

Would you trade for it?

Would you repeal the sequester for it?
Would you repeal all the spending cuts on educating our kids?
Would you stop cutting food stamps for the hungry?
Would you raise the debt ceiling without objection?
Would you stop your war on womens health choices?
Would you raise taxes on the wealthy?

All these things that you teabaggers have done to make America suffer for electing the Kenyan, would you give them all back to stop Obamacare from insuring 40 million people?

What do you hate most? Obamacare or a progressive America?
Answer

Jonesboro, AR

#19 Sep 26, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
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The thing is that by paying into the system (Medicare) they will be eligible for Medicare when they reach the age requirement or should they become disabled.
You mean IF "they reach the age requirement" and IF Medicare still exists when they do.

And my point is that the very people who TAKE from the working poor so that they have health insurance like Pelly, Hester, Hubbard...are the same people who would deny the working poor the same insurance they take for granted. They are hypocrites.
Answer

Jonesboro, AR

#20 Sep 26, 2013
Let's not forget Ted Cruz, who said:

“I intend to speak in support of defunding Obamacare until I am no ... defunding Obamacare until I am no longer able to stand.”

Good thing he has government healthcare to help him recover. Hypocrite & a TAKER.
Rupert B Jigglebottom

Springdale, AR

#21 Sep 26, 2013
Answer wrote:
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You mean IF "they reach the age requirement" and IF Medicare still exists when they do.
And my point is that the very people who TAKE from the working poor so that they have health insurance like Pelly, Hester, Hubbard...are the same people who would deny the working poor the same insurance they take for granted. They are hypocrites.
You're missing the long term point. Once America has taken advantage of a better healthcare system and becomes healthier overall, there will be less people showing up at an ER to find out that they have a serious unforeseen expensive medical issue requiring treatments that they cannot afford to pay for, leaviing the rest of us on the hook causing premiums and medical costs to rise.

In the long term, this method of coverage for all is going to save you money. Period.
Timmy

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#22 Sep 26, 2013
Hogballs wrote:
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You're a German named "indian joe"? I've found without exception,
when someone declares they're not a racist ,they surely are. I guess the black people you are accquainted with "know their place".
And last but not least, what in the world does President Obama's skin color have to do with anything?
Go back to sucking hog balls, Razorback Jack/Cathouse Mouse. You forgot some of us know exactly what you look like, didn't you, you old fart.
Answer

Jonesboro, AR

#25 Sep 26, 2013
Rupert B Jigglebottom wrote:
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You're missing the long term point. Once America has taken advantage of a better healthcare system and becomes healthier overall, there will be less people showing up at an ER to find out that they have a serious unforeseen expensive medical issue requiring treatments that they cannot afford to pay for, leaviing the rest of us on the hook causing premiums and medical costs to rise.
In the long term, this method of coverage for all is going to save you money. Period.
I'm not "missing the long term point."
I agree that Obamacare will reduce unnecessary ER visits and save money. I'm with you, Obamacare is a good thing.

My challenge is to anyone who has Medicare but hates Obamacare.
They are selfish & they are the real "takers."

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