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The bill that was passed on August 1st was the Bush tax cuts.That bill is set to expire at the end of the year and neither party has any interest in extending them.
You're wrong. First of all, the bill that extended the tax rates until the end of this year was passed last year and signed by Obama on Dec. 17, 2010.

The bill I'm talking about was passed by the House in August of this year, and would extend the tax rates until the end of next year.

This is all a matter of public record. Google it and educate yourself.
Both parties have said we need real tax reform to advert the fiscal cliff.At this point extending the Bush tax cuts is like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.
Yes, we do need real tax reform, but that can't be done in just a couple weeks, and the fiscal cliff is coming up very fast.

Republicans have been talking about closing loopholes and reducing tax rates for many, many months now. Even though that would result in greater revenues for the government, Obama and company aren't interested. They only care about sticking it to the rich, nothing but class warfare.

Obama and the Democrats want so bad to make the top 2% pay even more (even though they are paying more than anyone else) they are willing to let taxes vastly increase on everyone, and cause the economy to fall into a deep depression.

Fasten your seat belts because we're going to see 10% unemployment again, and the stock market will plunge 1500 to 2000 points.

Just remember that Republicans have put plan after plan on the table, yet Democrats have blocked every one of them.
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D!ck Cheney said, more than once, "Deficits don't matter."

Obama/Biden 2012 with Hillary in 2016
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You're wrong. First of all, the bill that extended the tax rates until the end of this year was passed last year and signed by Obama on Dec. 17, 2010.
The bill I'm talking about was passed by the House in August of this year, and would extend the tax rates until the end of next year.
This is all a matter of public record. Google it and educate yourself.
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Yes, we do need real tax reform, but that can't be done in just a couple weeks, and the fiscal cliff is coming up very fast.
Republicans have been talking about closing loopholes and reducing tax rates for many, many months now. Even though that would result in greater revenues for the government, Obama and company aren't interested. They only care about sticking it to the rich, nothing but class warfare.
Obama and the Democrats want so bad to make the top 2% pay even more (even though they are paying more than anyone else) they are willing to let taxes vastly increase on everyone, and cause the economy to fall into a deep depression.
Fasten your seat belts because we're going to see 10% unemployment again, and the stock market will plunge 1500 to 2000 points.
Just remember that Republicans have put plan after plan on the table, yet Democrats have blocked every one of them.
By JONATHAN WEISMAN
Published: August 1, 2012

WASHINGTON The House on Wednesday easily approved a one-year extension of all the Bush-era tax cuts set to expire in January, but in the Senate, presidential politics are complicating efforts to extend a tax credit for wind power.

The House votes pitted a straight extension of all the expiring Bush tax cuts against a Democratic plan, passed by the Senate, that would allow taxes on income, capital gains and dividends to rise on earnings over $250,000, increasing revenues by around $100 billion. It was not close. The Democratic plan failed 170-257, with 19 Democrats voting no. The Republican plan passed 256-171, again with 19 Democrats throwing in their support. One Republican, Representative Timothy V. Johnson of Illinois, who is retiring, opposed it.

Its time to put the rhetoric aside, said Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio.Its time to put the politics aside. I know were in an election year, but my goodness, raising taxes at this point in this economy is a very big mistake.

The House vote Wednesday and Senate passage of the Democratic plan give the parties some political cover during an August recess when each will blame the other for an economic crisis expected in January when more than $500 billion in tax cuts are set to lapse.

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If you rob Peter to pay Paul, Paul will always vote for you. Paul don't pay no taxes, no how.

But everybody else has to pay their "fair share". So good old Paul can keep on not paying taxes.

Paul told me "life is good."
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Man you got a lot of time on your hands. Looks as if you need to get a job!!!
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Companies left and right have been announcing layoffs and plant closures since Obama was re-elected. Heres a list of some of them:
November 6 , 2012
Bristol-Myers - 480 Sales Related Jobs in NJ
Update: the Lower Bucks Hospital - 30
Oce North America, Inc. CT - 135
Updated: Corning in Erwin NY - 100
United Blood Services Gulf region - 10% of Workforce
The Atlantic Lottery Corporation ( International )- 16
November 7 , 2012
Boeing - 30% of Executives at Defense Unit
CVPH Medical Center - 17 Pink Slips
U.S. Cellular - 980
Commerzbank ( German )- up to 6,000 Layoffs Poss.
Spanish airline Iberia - up to 7,000 Possible
Momentive Performance Materials - 150 Temp, Layoffs
Brake Parts LLC - 75
Gameforge Berlin - 20
Vestas Wind Systems - 3,000 More Job Cuts
Husqvarna AB - 600
ING - 2,350
Ericsson ( Sweden)- 1,550
SRA International Inc - 222 in Arlington Va.
PerkinElmer - 66 Layoffs During 3rd Quarter
Majestic Star Casino and Hotel - About 80
Center for Hospice / Palliative Care NY - 40 Temp. Layoffs
November 8 , 2012
Eagle-Tribune in North Andover - 21
Ameridose LLC - up to 650 Layoffs
EMD Millipore St. Charles - Some Layoffs
Groupon - 80
Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne - 100
Slidell La.- Warns of Possible Layoffs
Westinghouse Anniston - 50
Research in Motion Ltd. HQ - 200
Lightyear Network Solutions - 12+
The Providence Journal Co.- 23
Hawker Beechcraft - 240 Layoffs + Facility Closings
November 9 , 2012
Mills Manufacturing NC - 68
TECO Coal Corporation - 90
Energizer Holdings Inc - 1,500
Update: Exide Technologies in Laureldale - 150
Southeastern Container - 15
Update: UtahAmerican Energy Inc - 102
The SCA plant in Barton - Plans Staff Reductions
Plexus Corp - Contract Loss Could = Layoffs
Yakima Regional Medical Center Washington - 10+
Crouse Hospital Syracuse NY - 70 Jobs
November 10 , 2012
Update: DuPont Co in Richmond VA - 64
TMX Group Ltd.- 100
Penn Refrigeration - 40
Wilkes-Barre PA - Layoffs Possible
Standard Bank Group Ltd.- up to 15% of Staff
The Art Gallery of Windsor ( International )- 12
American Coal - 54
New Energy Corp. Indiana - Idles 40
November 12 , 2012
Update: Wingspan Portfolio Advisors - 459 Possible Layoffs
German news agency dapd -100
The Commercial Appeal - Another Round of Layoffs?
Airlines SAS ( International )- About 6,000 Jobs Lost
November 13 , 2012
Xerox Corp.- 2,500
Citigroup Inc.- 100 in Long Island NY
Atlantic City's Casinos - Workers Face Layoffs After Sandy
Glens Falls Hospital NY - 29
Bayou Cane Louisiana - 7 FD Layoffs Likely
San Diego Hospice - Possible Violations may = Layoffs
Sun Media newspaper division ( International )- 500
Publishing Firm Lulu in Raleigh - 9
Iron Range nonprofit Minn.- Layoffs Pending
Hostess - 3 Plant Closing = 627 Jobs Lost
Hamilton FD Ohio - Possible 2 Closing - 17 Layoffs
NBCUniversal - 500
Dana Corporation - Warns Employees of Poss. Layoffs
Mississippi County Arkansas - About 12 Layoffs
TMX Group ( International )- Plans to Cut 100 Jobs
November 14 , 2012
Texas Instruments 1,700 Layoffs Worldwide
Westchester County NY - 126 Layoffs in Proposed Budget
The Brattleboro Retreat - 27 Layoffs, 4 Positions Lost
Turkey Point Nuclear Plant FL - 277 Layoffs Possible
Otsego County NY - 10 Layoffs Possible
Wake Forest Baptist Medical NC - 950 Positions by June 2013
Update: Smithfield Foods Inc. Meat Plant VA - Starting Layoffs
Update: Cummins - Starts Layoffs in Indiana
Solel Solar Systems ( International )- 140+
Panasonic - 10,000 More Layoffs by End of March
Pierce Manufacturing in Bradenton - Layoffs begin
Optus ( International )- Additional 184
Gamesa Energy - 92 Layoff Notices
Report: Spain's Bankia ( International )- 5,000
Tooele County UT - 22
Monitor Group - 235 Layoffs

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Well looks like we are about to get hit with serious tax hikes. Awesome right? Economy sucks, hadn't had a cost of living increase in 5 years. And now I stand to lose 6,000 more in taxes a year. Wow I use to try to save a little but guess now the government can use more of my money for the non working people. Buy them more cell phones. This country has went to hell . I just want to die. This never ends.
Go to "We the people.gov " and sign the secede petition,,:)
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Obama and the Democrats are willing to let taxes vastly increase on everyone, and cause the economy to fall into a deep depression and the stock market will plunge 1500 to 2000 points.
You're exactly right. The less money that the overall total population has in their pockets then the less they will be able to put towards the economy as consumers and investors.
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By JONATHAN WEISMAN
Published: August 1, 2012
WASHINGTON The House on Wednesday easily approved a one-year extension of all the Bush-era tax cuts set to expire in January
That's precisely what I've been telling you. The bill passed by the Republicans in the House on Aug. 1, 2012 would extend the tax rates for another full year, until Dec. 31, 2013.

You keep claiming it's the same bill that was passed that extended the tax rates until the end of this year. That bill was signed two years ago by Obama in December of 2010.

So like I said, you can't blame Republicans when every taxpayer in the country sees a huge tax increase beginning Jan. 1, 2013. Senate Democrats are making sure that happens.

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Obama says he don't want to hurt the middle class. I believe him. Any man that can buy votes by giving out free cell fones is got ta be on-est, rite!
Actually you can credit Ronald Reagan for this one. Great idea and very compassionate but the life line phone has been around since 1984.
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It is nice that you list what you think is an over whelming number of businesses. BUT....how many are really related to your point...how many are a "small business" as is your point. Why would US Cellular layoff 980 except for already falling profits as has been know for sometime. Why do you list Atlantic City casinos-you blame Hurricane Sandy on politicians? Compared to all the businesses worldwide (as you have listed international companies, not just American small business)your list looks like everday business. Besided, no responsible owner is going to "panic cut" jobs over something that may not happen. Geez, all you sky is falling people need to chill. Your information looks good to the un-informed (you?) but lacks substantial facts. But you don't want facts, you want your opinion to be accepted by all. Not going to happen...
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Dear Ray Elliott, If you are about to lose $6K more in taxes, you must be making alot of money. What cost of living increase are you expecting? That doesn't make sense unless you are receiving some type of benefit? "This country has gone to hell. I just want to die. this never ends". Such drama.....really, you just want to die? really????

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Man you got a lot of time on your hands. Looks as if you need to get a job!!!
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That's straight off the "Drudge Report" website.

It and he are full of nonsense. Those numbers were included in the last jobs report and are a routine shift in employment numbers.

That's a big reach. hahahahahaha

I've never seen such whimpering after an election, but I fully expected it.
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That's precisely what I've been telling you. The bill passed by the Republicans in the House on Aug. 1, 2012 would extend the tax rates for another full year, until Dec. 31, 2013.
You keep claiming it's the same bill that was passed that extended the tax rates until the end of this year. That bill was signed two years ago by Obama in December of 2010.
So like I said, you can't blame Republicans when every taxpayer in the country sees a huge tax increase beginning Jan. 1, 2013. Senate Democrats are making sure that happens.
The bill that was signed by Obama in 2010 was to extend the Bush tax cuts,the bill that was signed in 2012 was to extend the Bush tax cuts,so yes it is the same bill.

William Branigin
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Friday, December 17, 2010; 5:05 PM

President Obama signed into law the most significant tax bill in nearly a decade Friday, a day after overcoming liberal resistance in Congress to continue for two more years tax breaks enacted under president George W. Bush and to provide a fresh federal boost for the tepid economic recovery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
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Hey "guest" why don't you use your logic and blame the "twinkies" closing on the government too?HA
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Hey "guest" why don't you use your logic and blame the "twinkies" closing on the government too?HA
the twinkies closing is caused by union thugs, who BTW, do control the White House.
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The bill that was signed by Obama in 2010 was to extend the Bush tax cuts,the bill that was signed in 2012 was to extend the Bush tax cuts,so yes it is the same bill.
No, they are different bills. The one Obama signed in 2010 extended the tax rates through 2012.

The one passed by the Republicans in the House in August of this year extends the tax rates through 2013, thereby avoiding the fiscal cliff.

Two different bills entirely.

Besides, common sense would tell you that two bills passed 2 years apart are different bills. Plus, why would the House pass a bill that was signed into law 2 years earlier? It makes no sense.

You just don't want to admit that you're wrong, or that it is the Senate Democrats and not the Republicans who are pushing to increase taxes on every taxpayer in the country by allowing the tax rates to revert to what they were 11 years ago.

Do you really think every taxpayer in the country should see a vast tax increase just because Obama and Harry Reid want to soak the rich even more? I don't.
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No, they are different bills. The one Obama signed in 2010 extended the tax rates through 2012.
The one passed by the Republicans in the House in August of this year extends the tax rates through 2013, thereby avoiding the fiscal cliff.
Two different bills entirely.
Besides, common sense would tell you that two bills passed 2 years apart are different bills. Plus, why would the House pass a bill that was signed into law 2 years earlier? It makes no sense.
You just don't want to admit that you're wrong, or that it is the Senate Democrats and not the Republicans who are pushing to increase taxes on every taxpayer in the country by allowing the tax rates to revert to what they were 11 years ago.
Do you really think every taxpayer in the country should see a vast tax increase just because Obama and Harry Reid want to soak the rich even more? I don't.
By JONATHAN WEISMAN
Published: August 1, 2012

WASHINGTON The House on Wednesday easily approved a one-year extension of all the Bush-era tax cuts set to expire in January, but in the Senate, presidential politics are complicating efforts to extend a tax credit for wind power.

The House votes pitted a straight extension of all the expiring Bush tax cuts against a Democratic plan, passed by the Senate, that would allow taxes on income, capital gains and dividends to rise on earnings over $250,000, increasing revenues by around $100 billion. It was not close. The Democratic plan failed 170-257, with 19 Democrats voting no. The Republican plan passed 256-171, again with 19 Democrats throwing in their support. One Republican, Representative Timothy V. Johnson of Illinois, who is retiring, opposed it.

Its time to put the rhetoric aside, said Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio.Its time to put the politics aside. I know were in an election year, but my goodness, raising taxes at this point in this economy is a very big mistake.

The House vote Wednesday and Senate passage of the Democratic plan give the parties some political cover during an August recess when each will blame the other for an economic crisis expected in January when more than $500 billion in tax cuts are set to lapse.

Look at the date of the story. August 1 2012. Now read it real carefully.Do you see the first sentence? It states "The House on Wednesday easily approved a one-year extension of all the Bush-era tax cuts". Now do you see where it says Bush tax cuts?

I'll say this again. The one in 2010 and 2012 were BOTH an extension of the Bush tax cuts.Do you got now? Do you understand? Do you need me to draw you a picture? Sometimes people like you do better with a visual aid.

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By JONATHAN WEISMAN
Published: August 1, 2012
WASHINGTON The House on Wednesday easily approved a one-year extension of all the Bush-era tax cuts set to expire in January, but in the Senate, presidential politics are complicating efforts to extend a tax credit for wind power.
The House votes pitted a straight extension of all the expiring Bush tax cuts against a Democratic plan, passed by the Senate, that would allow taxes on income, capital gains and dividends to rise on earnings over $250,000, increasing revenues by around $100 billion. It was not close. The Democratic plan failed 170-257, with 19 Democrats voting no. The Republican plan passed 256-171, again with 19 Democrats throwing in their support. One Republican, Representative Timothy V. Johnson of Illinois, who is retiring, opposed it.
Its time to put the rhetoric aside, said Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio.Its time to put the politics aside. I know were in an election year, but my goodness, raising taxes at this point in this economy is a very big mistake.
The House vote Wednesday and Senate passage of the Democratic plan give the parties some political cover during an August recess when each will blame the other for an economic crisis expected in January when more than $500 billion in tax cuts are set to lapse.
Look at the date of the story. August 1 2012. Now read it real carefully.Do you see the first sentence? It states "The House on Wednesday easily approved a one-year extension of all the Bush-era tax cuts". Now do you see where it says Bush tax cuts?
I'll say this again. The one in 2010 and 2012 were BOTH an extension of the Bush tax cuts.Do you got now? Do you understand? Do you need me to draw you a picture? Sometimes people like you do better with a visual aid.
Are you trying to say that the Bush tax cuts won't expire until August 2013?

The Bush tax cuts expire on Jan 1. The August agreement was a retroactive agreement that precluded the date of Jan 1 2012. All fiscal matters in the federal government revolve around January 1, unless specified in legislation.

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Dear Ray Elliott, If you are about to lose $6K more in taxes, you must be making alot of money. What cost of living increase are you expecting? That doesn't make sense unless you are receiving some type of benefit? "This country has gone to hell. I just want to die. this never ends". Such drama.....really, you just want to die? really????
3300.00 so far,, and no i get no benift's,, "but i did stay in a holiday inn express last night",,, and cathouse is jacking internet from the neighbor,,

Myself want to throw in the towel as well,,hell free housing,, free phone,,free food and even pay my bills,,hmmmm???? i wonder why i pay tax's??????
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Are you trying to say that the Bush tax cuts won't expire until August 2013?
The Bush tax cuts expire on Jan 1. The August agreement was a retroactive agreement that precluded the date of Jan 1 2012. All fiscal matters in the federal government revolve around January 1, unless specified in legislation.
No. I've been trying to tell the other poster that what Obama signed back in August according to the story I provided was an extension of the Bush tax cuts and yes they do expire Jan 1. For some reason he thinks they signed something to avoid the fiscal cliff.

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