Youth Pastor from Central Baptist Chu...

Youth Pastor from Central Baptist Church harassing students at JHS

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Okolona, AR

#1 Nov 7, 2008
The youth pastor from Central Baptist Church goes to Jonesboro High School during lunch and wanders in the lunch room asking the students about their religious preference. He talks up their church and has even told one student that being a Catholic sucks. Some students have told him their aren't interested in talking to him and to leave them alone. SOme have told him their are Buddist to avoid him. Why is he allowed to harass them at school. Separation of church and state. This should not be allowed.
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United States

#2 Nov 7, 2008
Come on, what are you thinking? This is Arkansas and anything goes here, there is no separation of church and anything in this place.
that guy

United States

#3 Nov 7, 2008
"separation of church and state" doesn't apply in this scenario. it's really no different than sitting in the park and having someone approach you. now if it was a teacher from school...THEN you could get them and trouble, possibly even fired.

but i AM surprised that school officials just lets someone off the street stroll into the school cafeteria and start talking to people.......or just stroll into the school period.
Just me

United States

#4 Nov 7, 2008
I see nothing wrong with a pastor roaming around in the schools. Maybe we need more of that. Maybe then we would see a drop in teen sex and pregnancy, teen alcohol and drug abuse, gang activity and general disobediance of children. It is your guilt that prompts you to complain about this. You know what you are doing is wrong and you just don't want anyone pointing that out.
And as far as "separation of church and state", it was never intended to keep the church out of the state, it was crafted to keep the STATE out of the Church. It has been skewed over the decades to rid sinners of their guilty feelings. Don't bother refuting this, you know in your heart that I am right. Be careful with your choice of words, you may just prove my point!
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Lake Charles, LA

#5 Nov 7, 2008
I believe I know the gentleman of whom the original poster spoke and the situation in question. You need more info from the students and the school before jumping to conclusions. The school is open to visitation from lots of positive influences including the local youth pastors. The students are not harassed. The schools have motivational speakers to visit, etc. I believe the teens may have misunderstood the nature of the visit.
Carol

AOL

#6 Nov 7, 2008
To just me:

I know we are not to judge...but here goes, you don't sound like a Christian to me. You were very rude in your post.

The pastor roaming around in the school is not of the faith I want talking to my child, after all, if you weren't Baptist would you have been so quick to answer the way you did.

Why is it o.k. for my child to have to spend his/her lunch time this way. Lunch time is to eat and have a break...NOT to dodge a preacher. They don't want to be rude. And, I will add they do not do drugs, have sex or give me any worrries that they will....if so, I will call on a minister of my faith to talk to them!

Be careful with YOUR choice of words, you may just prove MY point!
reader

Cleveland, OH

#7 Nov 7, 2008
He has permission to be there from school officials,otherwise,it wouldn't be allowed,no one could just "wander in" and "stroll in" and he's not just some one off the street.

I guess it's better for drug dealers and perverts to roam around and try to talk to them,however?
Don't be so radical,it's just a visit during the lunch hour,hey,don't worry,you can be SURE that not much influence except what the state wants your kids to be spoonfed will be allowed.
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Lake Charles, LA

#8 Nov 7, 2008
Ms. Carol,
Contact your school and express your concerns. They serve the families in the hope of doing the best for the students. They will listen and take your advice into consideration before allowing anyone else to visit.
unreal

Mountain Home, AR

#9 Nov 7, 2008
Yes we need positive influences in our kids life, but what would you say if a catholic priest was roaming the school and telling your child that being a baptist is not right. You (JUST ME) would be highly upset. There are so many different religions in this world and not everyone approves of all different religions. They can talk to the kids about doing right from wrong and learning to make the right choices without including religion.
guest

Okolona, AR

#10 Nov 7, 2008
I know he is trying to mean well, however he does come off as being way too pushy. I am a Christian. My student has had to dodge him on many occasions and did overhear him say that the Catholic Church sucks and she needed to join their youth group. This DID happen. School officials need to look into this and just ask the students if his presence is appreciated. You'd be suprised to hear what the students would say.
Just me

United States

#11 Nov 7, 2008
Carol wrote:
To just me:
I know we are not to judge...but here goes, you don't sound like a Christian to me. You were very rude in your post.
The pastor roaming around in the school is not of the faith I want talking to my child, after all, if you weren't Baptist would you have been so quick to answer the way you did.
Why is it o.k. for my child to have to spend his/her lunch time this way. Lunch time is to eat and have a break...NOT to dodge a preacher. They don't want to be rude. And, I will add they do not do drugs, have sex or give me any worrries that they will....if so, I will call on a minister of my faith to talk to them!
Be careful with YOUR choice of words, you may just prove MY point!
How was I rude? By being honest? If being honest means being rude, then I guess I am rude. I cannot apologize for honesty. As far as my faith, please do not think you know me, I am very strong in my beliefs and I know they are correct. I don't care if the pastor is baptist, penacostal, presbyterian, or whatever, as long as he is a Bible believing Christian pastor who, in his church, is teaching the basic principles of salvation through Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to Heaven. All others are wrong. I am sorry, but that is the truth of the Gospel. I would have a problem with a Buddhist, Muslim or any other cult leader doing this, and that is my right. This country was founded on Christian principles and we have gotten so far away from that now that God is lifting His hand off of this nation and as a result, this nation will fall. I just hope Jesus returns before that happens.

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#12 Nov 7, 2008
Would you feel the same if it was a Wiccan Priest or a Muslim approaching your child at lunch? Just curious, because I do believe that both are nationally recognized religions and fall into the same laws and protections as a Baptist church. I personally feel that any religious leader approaching my child without my consent is wrong, no matter what his faith.
reader

Cleveland, OH

#13 Nov 7, 2008
Well if that's the case,and you're that miffed about it,why not call up Central and tell Bro.Archie about it,instead of posting it on a public forum to give everyone the opportunity to come out of the woodwork and start bashing and flaming Central Baptist Church,as has already been done on numerous other threads.
I think that's how I'd handle it if I were serious enough about it and felt that it really were true.
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Cleveland, OH

#14 Nov 7, 2008
unreal wrote:
Yes we need positive influences in our kids life, but what would you say if a catholic priest was roaming the school and telling your child that being a baptist is not right. You (JUST ME) would be highly upset. There are so many different religions in this world and not everyone approves of all different religions. They can talk to the kids about doing right from wrong and learning to make the right choices without including religion.
So,I'd be interested in WHO and WHERE the standards of "right from wrong" come from? From Islam? Buddism? Catholicism? Baptist? ect ect?

I think it originated with God's Holy Word and the Ten Commandments.
guest

Okolona, AR

#15 Nov 7, 2008
I didn't bash Central Baptist Church. I was just wondering what everyone thought about this paticular youth pastor and his methods of approaching youth in a public forum. I will call Bro Archie. I'm not into bashing anyone. I just wanted opinions.
Carol

AOL

#16 Nov 7, 2008
Just Me....You said.."I would have a problem with a Buddhist, Muslim or any other cult leader doing this, and that is my right". That is what I am saying. Its our Right to choose, and I don't want my children being preached to by anyone while they are in School!! If a Baptist can be there than the Wiccan Priest and Buddist would have the same right.
huh

Nashville, AR

#17 Nov 7, 2008
If the schools allow a Baptist preacher in, they must allow any preacher of any faith to do the same. They can't discriminate. What happens if all the preachers are there at the same time? Is that OK?
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Okolona, AR

#18 Nov 7, 2008
That is what my main point is. I want the students to have good role models, however they DON'T need someone from one of the local churches HARRASSING them weekly during their lunch. THis must STOP!!!! My child is really sick of him.
friend

Keiser, AR

#19 Nov 7, 2008
guest wrote:
The youth pastor from Central Baptist Church goes to Jonesboro High School during lunch and wanders in the lunch room asking the students about their religious preference. He talks up their church and has even told one student that being a Catholic sucks. Some students have told him their aren't interested in talking to him and to leave them alone. SOme have told him their are Buddist to avoid him. Why is he allowed to harass them at school. Separation of church and state. This should not be allowed.
I am not a central member, and my kids go to school their. I know he goes around and talks to the kids (and others too). I am glad they have a presence at the schools and I think the schools made a good decision to let them in. Whatever he said about the catholic church, I think you took out of context. I don't believe he would have done that. These guys are great influences on the kids. we have to be so pc about everything these days, please don't try to cause problems for these good people.
whatever

Nashville, AR

#20 Nov 7, 2008
so what if a Jewish rabbi said that Christianity "sucks" and said it in the same way the youth minister said it? Would that be tolerated? or would the evangelical community be in a uproar?

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