Curiing Liberalism: The 21st Century's Black Plague

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Southern Conservative

Little Rock, AR

#1 Jan 24, 2013
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#2 Jan 24, 2013
I dunno. They did pretty well in the last election. The Republicans had better get their shit together, as their are so many old pissed off white people left.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#3 Jan 24, 2013
Southern Conservative wrote:
Why do all your 'experts' give themselves the honorary title of "DR." when they aren't?

Our Founding Fathers were Liberals.

Southern Conservative = Southern Idiot
the real guest

United States

#4 Jan 25, 2013
guest wrote:
Our Founding Fathers were Liberals.
They weren't liberals as the term is defined today. They stood for a federal government very limited in size, power and scope. They feared tyrannical government and therefore made every effort to ensure the people retained all political power as well as recognizing the right of the people to alter or abolish the government whenever it failed to secure their rights, by force if necessary.

Today's liberals stand for an ever growing federal government, in size, power and scope. They look first to government for the resolution of every problem. They believe government knows better how people ought to live than the people themselves. They believe all power resides with the federal government and that it rightly grants limited power to whomever it chooses, and denies it to everyone else.

Today's liberalism is exactly the opposite of what the liberators who founded our country stood for.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Jan 25, 2013
What Is a Liberal?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-ston...

1. Liberals believe individuals should doubt their own truths and consider fairly and open-mindedly the truths of others. This is at the very heart of liberalism. Liberals are skeptical of censorship and celebrate free and open debate.

2. Liberals believe individuals should be tolerant and respectful of difference. It is liberals who have supported and continue to support the civil rights movement, affirmative action, the ERA and the rights of gay and lesbian people.

3. Liberals believe individuals have both a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate. It is liberals who have championed and continue to champion expansion of the franchise, the elimination of obstacles to voting, "one person, one vote," limits on partisan gerrymandering, campaign finance reform, and a more vibrant freedom of speech. They believe, with Justice Louis Brandeis, that "the greatest menace to freedom is an inert people."

4. Liberals believe "we the people" are the governors and not the subjects of government, and that government must treat each person with that in mind. It is liberals who have defended and continue to defend the freedom of the press to investigate and challenge the government, the protection of individual privacy from overbearing government monitoring, and the right of individuals to reproductive freedom.

5. Liberals believe government must respect and affirmatively safeguard the liberty, equality and dignity of each individual. It is liberals who have championed and continue to champion the rights of racial, religious, and ethnic minorities, political dissidents, persons accused of crime and the outcasts of society. It is liberals who have insisted on the right to counsel, a broad application of the right to due process of law, and the principle of equal protection for all people.

6. Liberals believe government has a fundamental responsibility to help those who are less fortunate. It is liberals who have supported and continue to support robust government programs to improve health care, education, social security, job training and welfare for the neediest members of society. It is liberals who maintain that a national community is like a family and that government exists in part to "promote the general Welfare."

7. Liberals believe government should never act on the basis of sectarian faith. It is liberals who have opposed and continue to oppose school prayer and the teaching of creationism in public schools and who support government funding for stem cell research, the rights of gay and lesbian people, and the freedom of choice for women.

8. Liberals believe courts have a special responsibility to protect individual liberties. It is principally liberal judges and justices who have preserved and continue to preserve freedom of expression, individual privacy, freedom of religion and due process of law.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#6 Jan 25, 2013
cont:

9. Liberals believe government must protect the safety and security of the people, for without such protection liberalism is impossible. This, of course, is less a tenet of liberalism than a reply to those who attack liberalism. The accusation that liberals are unwilling to protect the nation from internal and external dangers is false. Because liberals respect competing values, such as procedural fairness and individual dignity, they weigh more carefully particular exercises of government power (such as the use of secret evidence, hearsay and torture), but they are no less willing to use government authority in other forms (such as expanded police forces and international diplomacy) to protect the nation and its citizens.

10. Liberals believe government must protect the safety and security of the people, without unnecessarily sacrificing constitutional values. It is liberals who have demanded and continue to demand legal protections to avoid the conviction of innocent persons in the criminal justice system, reasonable restraints on government surveillance of American citizens, and fair procedures to ensure that alleged enemy combatants are in fact enemy combatants. Liberals adhere to the view expressed by Justice Louis Brandeis some eighty years ago, "Those who won our independence... did not exalt order at the cost of liberty."
guest

Grand Prairie, TX

#8 Jan 25, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Why do all your 'experts' give themselves the honorary title of "DR." when they aren't?

Our Founding Fathers were Liberals.

Southern Conservative = Southern Idiot
No, they were reactionaries which are further right than conservatives.
the real guest

United States

#9 Jan 25, 2013
guest wrote:
1. Liberals believe individuals should doubt their own truths and consider fairly and open-mindedly the truths of others.
Hmm....there is no such thing as "the truths of others". Truth is truth and belongs to no one. Your statement smacks of relative truth which is nothing but sheer irrationality.

But what you said has and element of truth. Liberals expect every idea to be embraced, no matter how good or bad it may be, especially when it comes to immorality. We should all embrace any manner of sexual deviancy that anyone wants to commit whether or not it shocks the conscience. Yep, that's liberalism for you.
2. Liberals believe individuals should be tolerant and respectful of difference.
Execpt, of course, Christianity and conservativism. Liberalism fights the hardest to squelch those.
3. Liberals believe individuals have both a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate.
Unless you oppose liberalism, then you must be viciously attacked with lies. Again, any opposition to liberalism must be stamped out.
4. Liberals believe "we the people" are the governors and not the subjects of government, and that government must treat each person with that in mind.
ROFLMAO!! Liberalism is exactly the opposite of that. It supports fierce opposition to any power retained by the people and usurps every ounce of power it can without any regard to the U.S. Constitution which was crafted to bind the power of government.
5. Liberals believe government must respect and affirmatively safeguard the liberty, equality and dignity of each individual.
As long as you're a liberal. But if you're a conservative, you're fair game for attacks from the left. No fair debates are to be had, no open discussion on the merits. Liberalism launches all out attacks on that, such as the commercial showing Paul Ryan shoving granny over a cliff just because he sought to reign in the runaway spending on Medicare, one of the chief pet projects of liberalism. Never mind that Ryan is right.
6. Liberals believe government has a fundamental responsibility to help those who are less fortunate.
Actually government has no such reponsibility, but liberals like to steal money from some people and give it to others whom they decide are more deserving of it. And in doing so they think they've done something good.
7. Liberals believe government should never act on the basis of sectarian faith.
Yes indeed, liberals do foster their godless religion of secular humanism while at the same time using the awesome power of government to smash anything associated with Christianity.
8. Liberals believe courts have a special responsibility to protect individual liberties.
Except when it comes to the individual liberty of the unborn. Then it's okay to slaughter them with impunity.
the real guest

United States

#10 Jan 25, 2013
guest wrote:
9. Liberals believe government must protect the safety and security of the people, for without such protection liberalism is impossible.
Yes government does have such a responsibility, yet liberalism goes much farther than providing security. Liberalism believes government must also protect people from themselves because the pointy heads in DC know far better what's best for the stupid masses than they do.
10. Liberals believe government must protect the safety and security of the people, without unnecessarily sacrificing constitutional values.
ROFLMAO!!! Liberals don't give two shits about the Constitution unless they can somehow use it to advance their cause. Witness their unbridled attempts to violate the 2nd Amendment as just one example.

For liberals, their socialist goals far outweigh any restraints that the Constitution places on government power and authority.
Southern Conservative

Little Rock, AR

#11 Jan 25, 2013
the real guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes government does have such a responsibility, yet liberalism goes much farther than providing security. Liberalism believes government must also protect people from themselves because the pointy heads in DC know far better what's best for the stupid masses than they do.
<quoted text>
ROFLMAO!!! Liberals don't give two shits about the Constitution unless they can somehow use it to advance their cause. Witness their unbridled attempts to violate the 2nd Amendment as just one example.
For liberals, their socialist goals far outweigh any restraints that the Constitution places on government power and authority.
Love your answers! You have the spine that a lot of our elected "leaders" need to find.
Southern Conservative

Little Rock, AR

#12 Jan 25, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do all your 'experts' give themselves the honorary title of "DR." when they aren't?
Our Founding Fathers were Liberals.
Southern Conservative = Southern Idiot
You silly thing, he didn't name himself that....I did. I was referring to him ridding us of the cancer of liberalism. You are a hippie, aren't you?
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#13 Jan 25, 2013
Curiing?
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#14 Jan 25, 2013
Southern Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
You silly thing, he didn't name himself that....I did. I was referring to him ridding us of the cancer of liberalism. You are a hippie, aren't you?
So you're 'Burkasrugly?' You're the pathetic little creep who keeps posting these threads to drive traffic to to his pathetic little hate blog?

You're a sad little sicko.
nate

United States

#15 Jan 25, 2013
Why all this chatter about someone curling vomit across a room9. Jeez! Are there teabagger morons on here? Its way past med and bed time so run along now. The country is safe and sound and in good hands. At least for four more glorious years. Suck it up.

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