Citizens against The WM3

Citizens against The WM3

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Take A Stand

Jonesboro, AR

#1 Sep 18, 2008
I am tired of hearing all these people talk about how ignorant and uneducated us people are and that our Justice is wrong. So Lets take a stand Arkansan's and let them know How many of us support The Governments decision to put these murderes were they belong. In Prison for LIFE..............
Justice

Jonesboro, AR

#2 Sep 18, 2008
Do you happen to know anything about the case? Or are you just having blind faith in our justice system? And if you do think they are guilty, please give some kind of intellectual response to back it up. The people who support the West Memphis Three only say that non-supporters are uneducated because they have no strong evidence to back up their statements. Most have formed their opinions on rumors or blind faith. If you have reason to believe they are guilty, then back it up. I'd love to hear it.
Foundation

United States

#3 Sep 18, 2008
I'm going to have to go with faith in the justice system.
Justice

Jonesboro, AR

#4 Sep 18, 2008
Foundation wrote:
I'm going to have to go with faith in the justice system.
And it's people like you that keep things the way they are... things can only improve if people are willing to admit that they have flaws. Notice how no one has come up with a good response to this "show your support for their guilt" thread.::laughing::

Just because people tell me Elvis is alive, doesn't mean I have to believe it. I guess I just have enough intelligence to think for myself.
Take A Stand

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Sep 18, 2008
Justice wrote:
Do you happen to know anything about the case? Or are you just having blind faith in our justice system? And if you do think they are guilty, please give some kind of intellectual response to back it up. The people who support the West Memphis Three only say that non-supporters are uneducated because they have no strong evidence to back up their statements. Most have formed their opinions on rumors or blind faith. If you have reason to believe they are guilty, then back it up. I'd love to hear it.
I do belive I will go with a Jury of our Peers..
And this isnt a wm3 supporters Post :)
and what what I laugh at is there still in PRISON
Justice

Jonesboro, AR

#6 Sep 18, 2008
Did you know the Jury foreman held council with members of the prosecution- behind closed doors - during the trial? That is completely illegal. They are still in prison because Judge Burnett wont admit he made mistakes. I could go into much further detail but since you cannot support your claim with anything besides "jury of our peers" I wont waste my time. It's obvious you don't know the facts.
Take A Stand

Jonesboro, AR

#7 Sep 18, 2008
Ok so U know this Jury foreman held council behind close doors. becouse How he confessed. hmmm I belive Miskelly confessed to MURDER. And before you go into it was a coherced confession let me add this. If I was to be on trial I can hire professionals to say anything I want. I could find someone with a degree to say the only reason I would admit guilt was becouse they made me. I do feel safer that as how is it Damion called himself "The West Memphis Boogyman" is in a cage were child killers should be
Concerned Citizen

Jonesboro, AR

#8 Sep 18, 2008
Justice
You have no evidence to support your statement and if you did you would surely come forward in the name of justice would you not?
Justice

Jonesboro, AR

#9 Sep 18, 2008
There is another strand on this website that has extensive postings about their innocence. I've replied to statements like yours all day along, and it's pointless to do so now because no one is stating anything relevant to their guilt. If you'd like to read the previous strand, its under jonesboro "lawyers return to court over 1993 west memphis slayings". If you can't find it, the link is http://www.topix.com/city/jonesboro-ar/2008/0...

you might also like to read the following websites...

WM3.org
The court transcripts are posted here, and the web site creators also gained access to the evidence from the west memphis police department, which is all documented on the site.

this one is good too. Lots of facts.
Midsouthjustice.com

Please do some research. There are hundreds of documented cases in the United States of people who were found guilty of murder, and later acquitted. Blind faith is NOT a good thing. Flaws need to be pointed out, so that innocent people do not DIE because of a flawed system.
google

Nashville, AR

#10 Sep 18, 2008
Justice, the only relevant fact to this case is they were found guilty and in all this time no judge or court has overturned the verdict nor has any evidence been presented that is strong enough to change anything. This case will (and should for all parties on both sides) end up in the Supreme Court. When that judgment is given, one side will have to give up this argument that has no conclusion other than they are still in prison guilty or not.
Justice

Jonesboro, AR

#11 Sep 18, 2008
google wrote:
Justice, the only relevant fact to this case is they were found guilty and in all this time no judge or court has overturned the verdict nor has any evidence been presented that is strong enough to change anything. This case will (and should for all parties on both sides) end up in the Supreme Court. When that judgment is given, one side will have to give up this argument that has no conclusion other than they are still in prison guilty or not.
The new evidence was presented to Judge Burnett, the same judge they had 15 years ago. He is retiring after this ye.... you know what... this is pointless. I've typed this stuff so many times for people who want to give their opinions without doing any research. Do your own research. I just wish people would stop making uneducated assumptions.

But you are right, the truth will come out in the end. And I believe their day will come in Federal Court.

Since: Aug 08

Bossier City, LA

#12 Sep 18, 2008
They're guilty.

Since: Aug 08

Arkansas

#13 Sep 19, 2008
Justice wrote:
And if you do think they are guilty, please give some kind of intellectual response to back it up.
As has been many times stated to you, those boys were tried before a jury of their peers. Citizens just like you and me who sat through the entire trial, intently listening to the testimony and carefully weighing the evidence. Unlike you, they weren't sidetracked on conspiracy theories that would make even Oliver Stone blush.

In the end, they voted unanimously to convict those boys of the crimes for which they were charged. Unanimously! 12 out of 12.

And then, the case was appealed to the Arkansas Supreme Court. And the members of the highest judicial body in this state carefully reviewed the trial process and the sufficiency of the evidence. They determined that there was no reason to overturn the convictions.

Now you may want to believe you are smarter than the jury who heard every word of testimony and reviewed every piece of evidence, and in the end every single one of them voted to convict. And you may want to believe that you are smarter than the justices who sit on the highest court in this state, but that doesn't make it so.

Go back to the other thread where you and your friends can wallow in your conspiracy theories and build your "intellecutal" case in that fantasy land of yours. The rest of us will stay here in reality, acknowledging that those boys received a fair trial, were unanimously convicted according to law by a jury of 12 of their peers, had their case reviewed on appeal, and their convictions upheld by the esteemed justices of our state's highest court.

It is over. Move on.
ehh

Lake Charles, LA

#14 Sep 19, 2008
heh,

Idiots, all. Read some bloody information on the internet, read the legal brief's, they can all be found on the net (or could be, prior to Mr. Perfect Judge's gag order) and see the actual evidence that is pointing for a new trial. when you think about it in the sense that these lawyers DO NOT have to prove innocence, only a REASONABLE DOUBT of GUILT, you cannot tell me that there is not a reasonable doubt of guilt in the mounds of new evidence.

And, for the record, if you put a less than normal brainpower'd boy in a room with some big bad police officers who keep asking you how you killed those boys, how did you kill those boys, how did you kill those boys for upwards of 8-10 hours or more, wtf do you think that you'd say???

Thought so.
Concerned Citizen

Sulphur Springs, TX

#15 Sep 19, 2008
Justice wrote:
Did you know the Jury foreman held council with members of the prosecution- behind closed doors - during the trial? That is completely illegal. They are still in prison because Judge Burnett wont admit he made mistakes. I could go into much further detail but since you cannot support your claim with anything besides "jury of our peers" I wont waste my time. It's obvious you don't know the facts.
You stated "Did you know the Jury foreman held council with members of the prosecution- behind closed doors - during the trial?" This is what I am talking about when I say you have no proof or you would surely come forward with it. This has nothing to do with whether they actually did it or not. I guess the next post will be that the Ark. Supreme Court held council with members of the prosecution behind closed doors-during the appeal-where the Court found that there was plenty of specific evidence presented at trial to support the jury verdict. I personally don’t care if they all get a new trial but these wild allegations do nothing but hurt their chances in my eyes.

Since: Aug 08

Arkansas

#16 Sep 19, 2008
ehh wrote:
...see the actual evidence that is pointing for a new trial. when you think about it in the sense that these lawyers DO NOT have to prove innocence, only a REASONABLE DOUBT of GUILT, you cannot tell me that there is not a reasonable doubt of guilt in the mounds of new evidence.
The actual evidence you refer to was reviewed by the judge and found that it did not point to the boys' innocence, and therefore failed to meet statutory mandates for a new trial. IOW, there wan't enough presented to warrant a new trial.

As far as reasonable doubt goes, that was back at the trial phase. Apparently the defense was unable to do that because the jury unanimously voted to convict.

It's over. The boys were found guilty by a jury of peers according to the law. Move on.
google

Nashville, AR

#17 Sep 19, 2008
ehh, the correct language is "innocent until proven guilty". Nothing about reasonable doubt of guilt. I personally hope they get a new trial. I don't think the verdict will change but it will put all this crap to rest. I also have less than normal brainpower (ask America First!) but if I was innocent I would never say I was guilty.
ehh

Lake Charles, LA

#18 Sep 19, 2008
America 1st: Judge is a flamer. would you want to admit you made a mistake 15 years ago and allowed some kids to spend 15 years in prison if they didn't deserve it? read the scientific evidence, it's out there on the net, read the legal briefs, they are also out there on the net, read it with an OPEN mind, and tell me you really think the evidence "proves their guilt"

Google: Yes, when you as a jury deliver a guilty verdict, it is "Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" meaning there is not any shred of reputable evidence that casts doubt on the person(s) being tried.

Since: Aug 08

Arkansas

#19 Sep 20, 2008
ehh wrote:
America 1st: Judge is a flamer. would you want to admit you made a mistake 15 years ago and allowed some kids to spend 15 years in prison if they didn't deserve it? read the scientific evidence, it's out there on the net, read the legal briefs, they are also out there on the net, read it with an OPEN mind, and tell me you really think the evidence "proves their guilt"
You're ignoring the fact that the justices of the Arkansas Supreme Court reviewed this case on appeal, determined that there was no reversible error during the trial and that the evidence was sufficient to sustain the conviction.

You keep pointing to all this new evidence, yet that was also recently reviewed. None of it proved the boys innocent, which is required before a new trial can be granted on the grounds of new evidence.

You are just grasping at straws to maintain your personal belief that the boys are innocent. The fact is that they were each found guilty in a court of law, by a jury of their peers, based on evidence ruled sufficient by the highest court in our state.

Again, it's over. Deal with it and move on.
Just Wondering

Tyler, TX

#20 Sep 20, 2008
I think it's funny how all of the WM3 supporters get on different websites and the majority of their claims say watch this documentary or go to this website. All of the places or pieces that they are wanting people to view are made by people that are trying to prove the innocence of the WM3 so yeah, if you go there and read what is posted then it will probably look like there is some question. I am sick of hearing all of the supporters telling other people "do some research" when the majority of "research" that most of the supporters have done is logged on to WM3.org or watched Paradise Lost.
There is no proof to overturn this case or it would have already been done. You supporters get on here and talk trash about the judge and your theories that he doesn't want to look bad, WHATEVER!! That's ridiculous!!
These men were tried by a jury of their peers and found guilty and sentenced. Damien Echols should be put to death because that was the sentence handed down to him. He is wasting taxpayer money by continuing to go back to court.
All of the supporters need to come up with something other than the pro-WM3 websites when citing "proof".

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