Senator Diane Feinstein introduces Assault Weapons Ban legislation.

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Almost six weeks after the Connecticut shooting rampage that killed 20 first graders, Feinstein said she planned to introduce her measure later Thursday, with Reps. Carolyn McCarthy of New York and Ed Perlmutter of Colorado doing the same in the House.

Feinstein's proposal would upgrade an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 and also outlaw ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

She said the goal is to "dry up the supply of these weapons over time."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/congre...
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Left Brain Thinker wrote:
Almost six weeks after the Connecticut shooting rampage that killed 20 first graders, Feinstein said she planned to introduce her measure later Thursday, with Reps. Carolyn McCarthy of New York and Ed Perlmutter of Colorado doing the same in the House.
Feinstein's proposal would upgrade an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 and also outlaw ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
She said the goal is to "dry up the supply of these weapons over time."
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/congre...
Chances of passage look slim...very, very slim. In fact, slim to none. Probably not a chance. In fact, may as well accept it. It ain't got a snowball's chance in hell. Bwaahahahahaha!!!

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<quoted text>Chances of passage look slim...very, very slim. In fact, slim to none. Probably not a chance. In fact, may as well accept it. It ain't got a snowball's chance in hell. Bwaahahahahaha!!!
I expect it will get changed. I'm sure some of the republican taliban Senators will attach some pork to it.

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With 60% national support, I wouldn't want to be the politician that rolls those dice.
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With 60% national support, I wouldn't want to be the politician that rolls those dice.
Yet more anal extraction numbers from CHM.

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Yet more anal extraction numbers from CHM.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/fogh...

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Require background check for all gun sales: 91%
Improve enforcement of existing laws: 86%
Require mental health check for gun purchases: 83%
Background check for ammo and components: 80%
High cap mag ban: 56%
Assault weapons ban: 54%
Restrict access to violent video games: 52%

- FOX News Poll
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Require background check for all gun sales: 91%
Improve enforcement of existing laws: 86%
Require mental health check for gun purchases: 83%
Background check for ammo and components: 80%
High cap mag ban: 56%
Assault weapons ban: 54%
Restrict access to violent video games: 52%
- FOX News Poll
The 2nd Amendment isn't subject to a popularity contest.
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The 2nd Amendment isn't subject to a popularity contest.
That's why it eventually will be repealed.
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That's why it eventually will be repealed.
Really? When?
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Left Brain Thinker wrote:
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I expect it will get changed. I'm sure some of the republican taliban Senators will attach some pork to it.
And trim alot of "bull" off. Heh Heh. Ain't gon be bout shat.

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<quoted text>And trim alot of "bull" off. Heh Heh. Ain't gon be bout shat.
The proposed legislation has a potential to get through the Senate just as it reads right now.
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Left Brain Thinker wrote:
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The proposed legislation has a potential to get through the Senate just as it reads right now.
Magazine capacity might get through but I'm willing to bet the assault weapons ban does not pass the house or senate. There are alot of southern Dems that are not going to be able to vote for the ban and still have a job come next election. I think the majority of the law abiding citizens have no problem with stricter background checks, that has already been stated several times. To be honest I believe Obama himself knows the AR ban will not pass but he had to throw that out there to please his liberal constitutes to atleast say he tried. I could be wrong, just my take on it.
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Left Brain Thinker wrote:
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The proposed legislation has a potential to get through the Senate just as it reads right now.
Yeah, but it ain't going anywhere. Find some different bait. They ain't bitin'.

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<quoted text>Yeah, but it ain't going anywhere. Find some different bait. They ain't bitin'.
I heard all that with Obamacare too.
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Feinstein states:
A Justice Department study of the assault weapons ban found that it was responsible for a 6.7% decrease in total gun murders, holding all other factors equal.

In the study she cites it states:
Our best estimate of the impact of the ban on state level gun homicide rates is that it caused a reduction
of 6.7% in gun murders in 1995 relative to a projection of recent trends. However, the evidence is not strong
enough for us to conclude that there was any meaningful effect (i.e., that the effect was different from zero).

Feinstein states:

The same study also found that “Assault weapons are disproportionately involved in murders with multiple victims, multiple wounds per victim, and police officers as victims.”

Her cited source states:
Using a variety of national and local data sources, we found no statistical evidence of post-ban decreases
in either the number of victims per gun homicide incident, the number of gunshot wounds per victim, or the
proportion of gunshot victims with multiple wounds. Nor did we find assault weapons to be overrepresented in a
sample of mass murders involving guns

Feinstein states:
The use of assault weapons in crime declined by more than two-thirds by about nine years after 1994 Assault Weapons Ban took effect.

Her cited source states:

The decline in the use of AWs has been due primarily to a reduction in the use of assault pistols (APs), which are used in crime more commonly than assault rifles (ARs). There has not been a clear decline in the use of ARs, though assessments are complicated by the rarity of crimes with these weapons and by substitution of post-ban rifles that are very similar to the banned AR models.
Feinstein states:

The percentage of firearms seized by police in Virginia that had high-capacity magazines dropped significantly during the ban. That figure has doubled since the ban expired.

Standard pistol magazines have a capacity of 12-15 rounds. So a standard magazine manufactured for a pistol is automatically considered to her to be a “high capacity magazine.

Feinstein states:

When Maryland imposed a more stringent ban on assault pistols and high-capacity magazines in 1994, it led to a 55% drop in assault pistols recovered by the Baltimore Police Department.

Her assumption is based on a “letter to the editor” written by Douglas Weil and Rebecca Cox who worked for “The Center to prevent Handgun Violence” The data they used was based on number of “assault Pistols” recovered in the first 6 months of the year (not the whole year) and then extrapolated what they thought should have been during the first 6 months of the ban (again why not the whole year?) Again these are so called Assault Pistols, this legislation concerns Riffles.

Feinstein states:

37% of police departments reported seeing a noticeable increase in criminals’ use of assault weapons since the 1994 federal ban expired.

Since her cited report is not available online (must be purchased from PERF) there is no way to verify or disprove her statement. Suffice it to say that most guns purchased come with a standard magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. It would stand to reason that many weapons used would have more than 10 rounds which is the standard she is using to make this assumption. These are not extended or high capacity magazines.

Finally, In Feinstein’s list of banned weapons she lists the Armalite M15 22LR Carbine. This is a .22 Caliber long riffle cartridge weapon. This proves it’s based on looks not the actual capacity or power of the weapon.
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IOW, Feinstein lied her ass off. Liberals do that all the time and bank on the fact that a huge segment of the population will mindlessly swallow their lying bullshit without ever considering whether it's true or not.

We have several such retarded liberal idiots that post daily on these threads, regurgitating that lying leftist bullshit that they are too stupid and too damn lazy to figure out is false disinformation.

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IOW, Feinstein lied her ass off. Liberals do that all the time and bank on the fact that a huge segment of the population will mindlessly swallow their lying bullshit without ever considering whether it's true or not.
We have several such retarded liberal idiots that post daily on these threads, regurgitating that lying leftist bullshit that they are too stupid and too damn lazy to figure out is false disinformation.
See post #9.

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IOW, Feinstein lied her ass off. Liberals do that all the time and bank on the fact that a huge segment of the population will mindlessly swallow their lying bullshit without ever considering whether it's true or not.
We have several such retarded liberal idiots that post daily on these threads, regurgitating that lying leftist bullshit that they are too stupid and too damn lazy to figure out is false disinformation.
Translation: I'm mad as hell that Feinstein bill is being taken serious. Now I have nothiing to defend myself with the Liberals so I will just resort to declaring everything to be a big fat lie.
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This gun grab attempt is DOA.

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