What Should Be Done About Gun Violence?

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#1 Jan 15, 2013
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.

But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.

This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.

I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over?

Enough smaller things pertaining to different elements of gun violence can cut away at things like peeling an onion.

For example. How many people are shot due to drinking? People drinking are more apt to become angry and when armed more easily use that gun when they normally would handle it differently. Also, studies and interviews of people in prisons have shown a vast number committed their crimes while drinking or doing drugs. Heck, as a side issue ..... how many gun 'accidents' happen while drinking?

Make it a crime (subject to a citation or arrest) to drink while in possession of a gun. I don't mean be drunk, but drink. It is illegal to drive a car with an open container of alcohol in the vehicle ..... why not for carrying a gun and drinking?

Another is a vast number of violent crimes are done by repeat offenders. If a criminal kills somebody when committing a crime make the death sentence mandatory. We need to use the death penalty far more than we do.
Nope that wont work

Ash Flat, AR

#2 Jan 16, 2013
How about this Jenny,you ought to be arrested for being on topix with ouut a brain , what another dumbass Idea go smoke some more weed. There already is too much government interferance in our private lives , you probably are one of those liberal Taliban supporters who want Muslim laws.
the real guest

United States

#3 Jan 16, 2013
Jenny,

We live in a dangerous world. Bad people exist who want to do you harm and take your property. It has been that way since Cain killed Abel.

Government taking away the rights of law abiding citizens will not solve the problem.

You mentioned drinking, but would you support taking every car off the highway and go back to horse and buggy days just because a small percentage of people drive drunk and kill someone? I doubt it.

It's the same thing with guns. Only a very small percentage of gun owners use guns to commit crimes. And the ones that do don't give a damn about obeying the law anyway.

The root cause of the problem is a devolution of our culture. We no longer teach moral values in school because they are considered religious. We no longer teach the history, purpose, form and function of our government. We no longer teach self-reliance and pride.

I think our country is too far gone to save, too many weak sissies around who look to government to solve every problem.

The best one can do is prepare himself for the world as it is. That means protecting life and property from the growing number of thugs who will commit violent crimes. In may cases that means arming yourself to the teeth and being prepared to use deadly force if necessary.

Relying on government for safety won't help. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#4 Jan 16, 2013
very well said "real guest", I agree with you.
Guest

United States

#5 Jan 16, 2013
The terrorists are all liberal scum, so drop all liberal scum in the ocean without floatation devices, preferably in shark infested waters.

When that damned Kenyan bans guns in the school he sends his daughters to and when he disarms all the damned security around him and his criminal gang of liberals he might (emphasis on might) have a diseased leg to stand on when it comes to banning any kind of guns at all. As long as you don't complain about him and his ilk having one set of rules for them and another for everybody else America is screwed.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#6 Jan 16, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.
But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.
This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.
I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over?
Enough smaller things pertaining to different elements of gun violence can cut away at things like peeling an onion.
For example. How many people are shot due to drinking? People drinking are more apt to become angry and when armed more easily use that gun when they normally would handle it differently. Also, studies and interviews of people in prisons have shown a vast number committed their crimes while drinking or doing drugs. Heck, as a side issue ..... how many gun 'accidents' happen while drinking?
Make it a crime (subject to a citation or arrest) to drink while in possession of a gun. I don't mean be drunk, but drink. It is illegal to drive a car with an open container of alcohol in the vehicle ..... why not for carrying a gun and drinking?
Another is a vast number of violent crimes are done by repeat offenders. If a criminal kills somebody when committing a crime make the death sentence mandatory. We need to use the death penalty far more than we do.
One thing for sure, doing "zero" isn't the answer. Any gun removed from society is one less gun that can be use to commit a public massacre. More guns certainly isn't the answer either. That just absurd because it double downs on the problem.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#7 Jan 16, 2013
when everyone is carrying guns, then people will think twice before robbing, raping and thinking they're going to kill you. When these sick people need to feel power, they go to schools where they know that teachers and kids are helpless and unprotected. How many times have you heard of someone going into a police station and start shooting? I'm sure it's happened but not as often as schools. I think you're either a gun person or you're not. My dad taught me to respect guns at an early age.

Since: Sep 09

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#8 Jan 16, 2013
As I thought would happen. No answers. I'll now tell a little about myself. I'm a gun owner. I fully support the right to carry one and even more so support the right to protect myself.

But I do also fully see the need to do something about crime. Too many people are harmed each day.

But as I said, I see nothing in any of these posts with any ideas for reducing gun violence ..... so that leaves nothing else to do but pass laws you may not like.

If all any of you are going to do is yell Liberal, Obama, and 'they're gonna take my gun' then you are not anything but part of the problem which keeps violence going in America.

Since: Sep 09

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#9 Jan 16, 2013
I notice some of you are centering on school shootings. I'm wanting to see your opinions and ideas for reducing gun violence and crimes in general. Far more people are harmed or killed during acts of street crime than shot in schools.

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#10 Jan 16, 2013
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
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One thing for sure, doing "zero" isn't the answer. Any gun removed from society is one less gun that can be use to commit a public massacre. More guns certainly isn't the answer either. That just absurd because it double downs on the problem.
Guns owned by normal citizens (non-criminals, homeowners, people only wishing to protect themselves and obey the law) shouldn't be removed. But there are guns floating loose being passed from criminal criminal. I think those guns 'do' need to be removed.

Since: Sep 09

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#11 Jan 16, 2013
But there are guns floating loose being passed from criminal 'to' criminal. I missed a word. My bad.

Since: Oct 12

Rock Forever

#12 Jan 16, 2013
The lady is giving people the chance to list their ways to stop violence. If you don't then stop bitchin about the liberals passing their own laws to do it.
Factory Worker

Oklahoma City, OK

#13 Jan 16, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.
But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.
This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.
I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over?
Enough smaller things pertaining to different elements of gun violence can cut away at things like peeling an onion.
For example. How many people are shot due to drinking? People drinking are more apt to become angry and when armed more easily use that gun when they normally would handle it differently. Also, studies and interviews of people in prisons have shown a vast number committed their crimes while drinking or doing drugs. Heck, as a side issue ..... how many gun 'accidents' happen while drinking?
Make it a crime (subject to a citation or arrest) to drink while in possession of a gun. I don't mean be drunk, but drink. It is illegal to drive a car with an open container of alcohol in the vehicle ..... why not for carrying a gun and drinking?
Another is a vast number of violent crimes are done by repeat offenders. If a criminal kills somebody when committing a crime make the death sentence mandatory. We need to use the death penalty far more than we do.
There isn't nothing you can do about school shootings other than make schools like prisons . Only one or two entrances with guards and metal detectures . If the Democrats passed a law outlawing every gun there would be millions of people who would not givem up!!!
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#14 Jan 16, 2013
but laws don't stop criminals OR crazy people. there's already laws against killing people period, and they're not working. I blame some of the problem on the gov't to begin with! You can't whoop bad kids anymore, put the fear of SOMETHING in them. These young folks and kids have to have a fear of something and they don't anymore.
Factory Worker

Oklahoma City, OK

#15 Jan 16, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.
But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.
This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.
I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over?
Enough smaller things pertaining to different elements of gun violence can cut away at things like peeling an onion.
For example. How many people are shot due to drinking? People drinking are more apt to become angry and when armed more easily use that gun when they normally would handle it differently. Also, studies and interviews of people in prisons have shown a vast number committed their crimes while drinking or doing drugs. Heck, as a side issue ..... how many gun 'accidents' happen while drinking?
Make it a crime (subject to a citation or arrest) to drink while in possession of a gun. I don't mean be drunk, but drink. It is illegal to drive a car with an open container of alcohol in the vehicle ..... why not for carrying a gun and drinking?
Another is a vast number of violent crimes are done by repeat offenders. If a criminal kills somebody when committing a crime make the death sentence mandatory. We need to use the death penalty far more than we do.
Street crime could be easily lowered by new punishments alone!!! Use a gun in a crime and get convicted , you get the death penalty not a life of ease in prison!!! Until we get tuff the criminals win.
ummm

Bismarck, AR

#16 Jan 16, 2013
a felon caught with a firearm is supposed to get 10 years for that alone... enforce that law

Since: Sep 09

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#17 Jan 16, 2013
ummm wrote:
a felon caught with a firearm is supposed to get 10 years for that alone... enforce that law
I think we should carry that even further to include people convicted of certain other crimes. Some misdemeanors should be included.

There are even a lot of criminals arrested for felonies but through plea bargaining it's reduced to a lesser crime. There are too many prosecutors who use it out of pure laziness or they don't want to spend any more time in court than they have to, not because an offender deserves a break. So we need to limit the use of plea bargaining. Put better controls on the use of it.
Obama

Jonesboro, AR

#18 Jan 16, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
We need to use the death penalty far more than we do.
Sorry no. We need to abolish the death penalty. Please do your research. States with the death penalty have murders and violence rates. Violence begets more violence. Execution in Virginia tonight. Inmate serving life killed two other inmates so he could get the death penalty. Without the death penalty he had no motive to kill these two. The death penalty is not a deterrent. It only causes more death and violence.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#19 Jan 16, 2013
FINANCIAL FACTS ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY

• The California death penalty system costs taxpayers $114 million per year beyond the costs of keeping convicts locked up for life.
Taxpayers have paid more than $250 million for each of the state’s executions.(L.A. Times, March 6, 2005)

• In Kansas, the costs of capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-capital cases, including the costs of incarceration.
(Kansas Performance Audit Report, December 2003).

• In Maryland, an average death penalty case resulting in a death sentence costs approximately $3 million. The eventual costs to Maryland taxpayers for cases pursued 1978-1999 will be $186 million. Five executions have resulted.(Urban Institute 2008).

• The most comprehensive study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the
costs of sentencing murderers to life imprisonment. The majority of those costs occur at the trial level.(Duke University, May 1993).

• Enforcing the death penalty costs Florida $51 million a year above what it would cost to punish all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole. Based on the 44 executions Florida had carried out since 1976, that amounts to a cost of $24 million for each
execution.(Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000).

• In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years.(Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992.

The money could be better spent putting more police on the street and on other objective measures. Will save more lives and we will not be a nation that practices ritual murders.

Since: Sep 09

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#20 Jan 16, 2013
Obama wrote:
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Sorry no. We need to abolish the death penalty. Please do your research. States with the death penalty have murders and violence rates. Violence begets more violence. Execution in Virginia tonight. Inmate serving life killed two other inmates so he could get the death penalty. Without the death penalty he had no motive to kill these two. The death penalty is not a deterrent. It only causes more death and violence.
Name a road anywhere in America I, a 22 year old woman, can walk alone on without risk of being assaulted.

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