Disrespecting the President
Guest

United States

#108 May 25, 2013
deathtoleft wrote:
<quoted text>Not this last time, and we got to hear Obama piss and moan and make it as inconvenient as possible.
What do you mean? Congress has the power to borrow, no one else. I was correct.
deathtoleft

Jonesboro, AR

#109 May 25, 2013
Guest wrote:
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What do you mean? Congress has the power to borrow, no one else. I was correct.
Constitutionally yes, however in reality the federal reserve has the power to sell debt which is what they did. Did you not realize that our money is backed by debt? Its illegal and stupid but it's been the way for 100 years since Woodrow Woodpecker Wilson, working with the big banks, illegally installed it.
counselor

Netherlands

#110 May 25, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
Somebody hasn't been taking their meds!
Probably because you've been taking yours and gobbling down the meds for every other lunatic on your floor again.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#111 May 25, 2013
deathtoleft wrote:
<quoted text>Constitutionally yes, however in reality the federal reserve has the power to sell debt which is what they did. Did you not realize that our money is backed by debt? Its illegal and stupid but it's been the way for 100 years since Woodrow Woodpecker Wilson, working with the big banks, illegally installed it.
Woodrow Wilson was a what? Progressive liberal! Imagine that.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#112 May 25, 2013
counselor wrote:
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Probably because you've been taking yours and gobbling down the meds for every other lunatic on your floor again.
Ooooh, skewered by that rapier witt.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#113 May 25, 2013
phiuck u wrote:
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Probably can't afford them because dipshit passed a ponzi scheme for a healthcare bill that forced his employer to cut his hours and cancel his insurance. ;)
I think we've already established that you have absolutely no concept of the healthcare debate, but this is a good reminder of that fact.
deathtoleft

Jonesboro, AR

#114 May 25, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
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I think we've already established that you have absolutely no concept of the healthcare debate, but this is a good reminder of that fact.
I think I've already established that when left learners are in a corner they attempt to undermine the intelligence of the person that put them in the corner. I understand perfectly that a percentage of people that work didn't want to invest in insurance.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#115 May 25, 2013
deathtoleft wrote:
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I think I've already established that when left learners are in a corner they attempt to undermine the intelligence of the person that put them in the corner. I understand perfectly that a percentage of people that work didn't want to invest in insurance.
You undermine the notion of you possessing any intelligence every time you make a post, this one being no exception. The problem isn't people's unwillingness to invest in health insurance. It's the fact that is beyond their financial ability to be able to purchase it. You continually make erroneous statements as if they were indeed facts. That pretty much illuminates your intelligence level more than anything anybody else says about you.
Guest

Dallas, TX

#118 May 26, 2013
It is hard to respect a President that does not respect the hard working middle class people.
Sick of being forced to support the scum that will not work. Cut off most of the benefits to baby producers and see how quick they look for work.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#119 May 26, 2013
Guest wrote:
It is hard to respect a President that does not respect the hard working middle class people.
Sick of being forced to support the scum that will not work. Cut off most of the benefits to baby producers and see how quick they look for work.
Post of the day! Nailed it.
Guest

West Memphis, AR

#120 May 26, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
<quoted text>You are clearly demonstrating that you are totally clueless about healthcare and the insurance industry. Trying to sum up all the aspects of the healthcare industry into a post on a topix thread is comical. When healthcare became a for-profit industry the stage was set for healthcare cost to begin to increase and eventually skyrocket, not the introduction of Medicare.

The upper tier of every health insurance company are paid millions in salary & benefits. Where do you think that anormous profit comes from? The average cost for administration of Medicaire is about 26%. Private health insurance providers peform the same function but administrative cost averages all above 80%. The vast gulf between 26% & 80% is the cost of all the people who get a cut and then the company executives to make fortunes. Medicare employees are paid on the federal scale so they don't require billions in cost to provide essentially the same services.

Having had to pay tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket for pre-existing conditions & services not covered, I've spent the better part of five years learning as much as I could about the healthcare industry. Inflation in healthcare is something that every country with some form of universal healthcare is having to contend with. Most of the countries that have some of the most efficient & progressive forms of healthcare are rarely ever mentioned in the American argument. People want to compare Britain & Canada as examples of socialized medicine and they aren't even in the top 10 best systems worldwide.

The one truth about private American health insurance is that if it is not included as part of the benefits from an employer, a vast majority of working Americans can not afford to purchase private healthcare insurance. Millions of hard working Americans can't afford to go to the doctor so they have to use emergency rooms when they absolutely have to seek help. This serves to over-crowd ERs, overwhelm doctors, and usually means that the cost of treating them is many times what it would have been had it been addressed early on.

Obama's health insurance program is far from perfect but it is at least a step in the right direction. It will require adjustments and tweaking over the next few years. Eliminating "pre-existing conditions" alone makes it possible for many more people to buy insurance coverage. As the Baby Boomers are hitting the point at which they need more health services and there isn't sufficient infrastructure currently existing to handle this number of people so this is going to present another hurdle for the healthcare community. The cost of doing nothing would break this country so, as I said, Obama's programs are a start but we still have a ways to go.
You are not as informed as you think about some of this. Eliminating "pre-existing conditions" means that you cannot be denied coverage, however, the verbiage intentionally omitted ANY limit on cost! So, perhaps your mother cannot be denied for her "pre-existing heart condition" but her coverage might just cost her $3,000 a month. How many working people with a "pre-existing condition" will be able to afford whatever cost someone pulls from their backside for these "non pre-existing pre-existing conditions"? It sounds great in the sound bites but, unfortunately, the sound bites are misrepresentations. An example of similar misrepresentation- the TV commercials for purchasing a car that say "We finance everyone! Nobody is ever refused!" Sounds great until you discover that your interest rate will be 30%!! Is that a good deal for anyone? Sure it is!! The "provider" It is NOT a good solution for the consumer.
Open competition is the only thing that drives the cost of anything down. I should be able to price shop any ins provider in any state and purchase where I want to.
deathtoleft

Jonesboro, AR

#121 May 26, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
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You undermine the notion of you possessing any intelligence every time you make a post, this one being no exception. The problem isn't people's unwillingness to invest in health insurance. It's the fact that is beyond their financial ability to be able to purchase it. You continually make erroneous statements as if they were indeed facts. That pretty much illuminates your intelligence level more than anything anybody else says about you.
It's hard to say what's beyond their financial ability. Maybe they could do without cable or some other luxury and invest in insurance. From my experience, and it involves doing a lot of orientations which included signing people up for insurance, they don't want health insurance.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#122 May 26, 2013
deathtoleft wrote:
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It's hard to say what's beyond their financial ability. Maybe they could do without cable or some other luxury and invest in insurance. From my experience, and it involves doing a lot of orientations which included signing people up for insurance, they don't want health insurance.
If you were conducting the seminar, I can see where people wouldn't want to sign up. I find it hard to believe that someone with absolutely no grasp of the current healthcare situation in our country would be in charge of any kind of sign up for health insurance unless it were some kind of Amway meeting they were duped into attending. Making everybody responsible for purchasing affordable health insurance or face a tax penalty is crucial to creating a system where people accept personal responsibility for their healthcare expenses.
deathtoleft

Jonesboro, AR

#123 May 26, 2013
I do, however, like Obamas stand on gay marriage.
Now me and my same sex partner can be married.
Fo Show

Little Rock, AR

#124 May 27, 2013
deathtoleft wrote:
I do, however, like Obamas stand on gay marriage.
Now me and my same sex partner can be married.
Well good for you. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything but maybe you can find others of your kind and find a soulmate. Shame you wouldn't be entitled to rights traditional marriages afford like your spouse being elgible for health insurance under your policy. The prez took awhile recognizing gay marriage but he did come around to it.
Guest

Kemp, TX

#125 May 27, 2013
Fo Show wrote:
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If you were conducting the seminar, I can see where people wouldn't want to sign up. I find it hard to believe that someone with absolutely no grasp of the current healthcare situation in our country would be in charge of any kind of sign up for health insurance unless it were some kind of Amway meeting they were duped into attending. Making everybody responsible for purchasing affordable health insurance or face a tax penalty is crucial to creating a system where people accept personal responsibility for their healthcare expenses.
I'm afraid you're the one with no grasp on Obamacare. It's not going to make anyone take personal responsibility. It's going to force folks like me to pay huge premiums to pay for all the MF's who can't afford insurance. They are going to get their insurance for free. It's another step in Obama's march toward redistribution of wealth. Nothing more. Nothing less. Even the unions are figuring it out and screaming for repeal or reform of Obamacare. That speaks volumes.
Sam I Am

Mountain Home, AR

#126 May 27, 2013
We will leave Obama and Mooshell alone when they stop their lying, race baiting, spending BILLIONS of our tax $$, Muslim loving, communist spewing propaganda..Before it is over this traitor should be tried for crimes of treason impeached and jailed...If you voted for obama because he is black then you are a racist, if you voted for him because of his policies then you are a total & complete moron.
IsItTime2

Springdale, AR

#127 May 27, 2013
Get the pitchforks and torches.
guest

United States

#128 May 27, 2013
The GOP has done a fine job of redistributing the wealth of the middle class to the wealthy. The economic stats prove that.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#129 May 27, 2013
guest wrote:
The GOP has done a fine job of redistributing the wealth of the middle class to the wealthy. The economic stats prove that.
Neither party should be redistributing wealth. Want wealth? Work for it!

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