Is President Obama using the Cloward ...

Is President Obama using the Cloward Piven Strategy ?

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Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#1 Sep 2, 2012
The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward (1926–2001) and Frances Fox Piven (b. 1932) that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty". Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in left-wing[1] magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93...
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#2 Sep 2, 2012
If you claim he 'might' be then obviously he isn't. Is Southern Patriot using communist propaganda techniques? Most decidedly so!
Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#3 Sep 2, 2012
guest wrote:
If you claim he 'might' be then obviously he isn't. Is Southern Patriot using communist propaganda techniques? Most decidedly so!
I have backed up everything I have said with facts. The Communist Propaganda you speak of is exactly what the democrats do.
my dixie wrecked

United States

#4 Sep 2, 2012
Stupid idea. Just like attempting to bring everyone up to average.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Sep 2, 2012
Southern Patriot wrote:
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I have backed up everything I have said with facts. The Communist Propaganda you speak of is exactly what the democrats do.
LOL - you posted a link to wikipedia! That's it. That's all.

From your own source:

"The Nation later stated that Beck blames the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" for "the financial crisis of 2008, healthcare reform, Obama's election and massive voter fraud" and has resulted in the posting of much violent and threatening rhetoric by users on Beck's website, including death threats against Frances Fox Piven. For her part, Piven vigorously continues to defend the original idea, calling its conservative interpretation "lunatic"."

Glenn Freaking Beck?!?!?! LOL!

If it was responsible for his election? Then how was he using it before his election?

You are some clown.

You're just like Fox News. Even you don't believe this crap but you keep repeating the lie. Again and again and again.

Like I said - Communist Propaganda Techniques.

How exactly does this 'wikipedia' entry back up 'with fact' your claim that Obama is using this diabolical method?

Better go check Glenn Beck's website before you reply so you can back up your reply with even more 'fact.'

Glenn Beck - too ridiculous even for Fox News. Obviously your main 'news' source.
Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#6 Sep 2, 2012
I never made the accusation that President Obama was using this strategy. I simply ask a question.
I never quoted Glenn Beck in any of my post. I simply posted the link to Wikipedia to explain what the Cloward Piven Strategy is. But of course you know all of this. The Liberal attack machine seeks to confuse the electorate by smearing and slandering anyone who seeks to expose the truth or to raise a question about Obama's tactics or policies.

You are the true clown here. You believe the American people are to stupid to see everything you said is false.
And by the way FOX news is the most trusted cable news channel in America. You should check the Neilson ratings.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#7 Sep 2, 2012
Southern Patriot wrote:
I never made the accusation that President Obama was using this strategy. I simply ask a question.
I never quoted Glenn Beck in any of my post. I simply posted the link to Wikipedia to explain what the Cloward Piven Strategy is. But of course you know all of this. The Liberal attack machine seeks to confuse the electorate by smearing and slandering anyone who seeks to expose the truth or to raise a question about Obama's tactics or policies.
You are the true clown here. You believe the American people are to stupid to see everything you said is false.
And by the way FOX news is the most trusted cable news channel in America. You should check the Neilson ratings.
Hey Stalin's Nephew - The Neilson rating gauge popularity not trust. The Jerry Springer show was popular. DO you trust it?

Fox Lies About Polling To Claim It Is "Most Trusted" TV News Source

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/06/20/fox-l...

Fox News has been touting an outdated survey in order to falsely claim that a national polling firm says that Fox "is the most trusted television news source in the country."

Indeed, PPP published a new installment of the poll in January 2011 -- with very different results. This time, PPP found that PBS -- which wasn't included in the 2010 poll -- was by far the most trusted outlet. Fifty percent of respondents said they trust PBS, while only 30 percent said they distrust PBS. Meanwhile, trust in Fox dropped to 42 percent, while distrust of Fox increased to 46 percent.

Give me a 'fact' based reference to show Fox News is the most trusted.

Or just keep repeating the lie again and again and again.

Communist Propaganda Techniques.
Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#8 Sep 2, 2012
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Hey Stalin's Nephew - The Neilson rating gauge popularity not trust. The Jerry Springer show was popular. DO you trust it?
Fox Lies About Polling To Claim It Is "Most Trusted" TV News Source
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/06/20/fox-l...
Fox News has been touting an outdated survey in order to falsely claim that a national polling firm says that Fox "is the most trusted television news source in the country."
Indeed, PPP published a new installment of the poll in January 2011 -- with very different results. This time, PPP found that PBS -- which wasn't included in the 2010 poll -- was by far the most trusted outlet. Fifty percent of respondents said they trust PBS, while only 30 percent said they distrust PBS. Meanwhile, trust in Fox dropped to 42 percent, while distrust of Fox increased to 46 percent.
Give me a 'fact' based reference to show Fox News is the most trusted.
Or just keep repeating the lie again and again and again.
Communist Propaganda Techniques.
Media Matters ? LOL. You couldn't find anything on the Huffington Post ? LOL...I tell you this is amazing. Always trying to change the subject. The discussion is about the Cloward Priven Strategy. Lets try to stick to the topic at hand.
Jake Anderson

Lees Summit, MO

#9 Sep 2, 2012
guest wrote:
If you claim he 'might' be then obviously he isn't. Is Southern Patriot using communist propaganda techniques? Most decidedly so!
Obviously he is buckwheat so face the facts and stop slobbering over Oslama.Southern Patriot is a true american that loves his country,you on the other hand are the communist if you are a follower of the the anti-american Oslama.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#10 Sep 2, 2012
Jake Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously he is buckwheat so face the facts and stop slobbering over Oslama.Southern Patriot is a true american that loves his country,you on the other hand are the communist if you are a follower of the the anti-american Oslama.
blah blah blah blah blah. Go drink another beer and clean your guns. I support the democratically elected President of the United States of America (in wartime too I might add).
Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#11 Sep 2, 2012
guest wrote:
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blah blah blah blah blah. Go drink another beer and clean your guns. I support the democratically elected President of the United States of America (in wartime too I might add).
You mean the soon to be former President Barrack Hussein Obama.
get off my lawn

Lincolnton, NC

#12 Sep 2, 2012
Southern patsie is a mindless dolt. Let him go. This is more fun to watch than a rerun of "southern militia men and the cousins that love em"

Good god, what a tool this poor slob is.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#13 Sep 2, 2012
Southern Patriot wrote:
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You mean the soon to be former President Barrack Hussein Obama.
Hey Stalin's Nephew - is that all you got? He's still up in the average of polls. He's way ahead in the electoral college. Oh yeah - the DNC is this week! Wait until you see President Obama's bounce! And then the debates! Willard can you tell us about those tax evading offshore accounts?

LOL - Don't roof rack me bro!
Jake Anderson

Lees Summit, MO

#14 Sep 2, 2012
guest wrote:
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blah blah blah blah blah. Go drink another beer and clean your guns. I support the democratically elected President of the United States of America (in wartime too I might add).
I don't drink and i cleaned my guns yesterday.Now run along and slobber on your Oslama poster.Im Jake Anderson and I approve this message.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#15 Sep 2, 2012
get off my lawn wrote:
Southern patsie is a mindless dolt. Let him go. This is more fun to watch than a rerun of "southern militia men and the cousins that love em"
Good god, what a tool this poor slob is.
LOL - you think he's had enough? I am being delightfully mean aren't I?
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#16 Sep 2, 2012
Southern Patriot wrote:
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Media Matters ? LOL. You couldn't find anything on the Huffington Post ? LOL...I tell you this is amazing. Always trying to change the subject. The discussion is about the Cloward Priven Strategy. Lets try to stick to the topic at hand.

Shown to be lying again. Dissembling again. So the PPP poll is true when it shows Fox as most trusted, but dismissed when it shows Fox is a stinking lying dung heap like yourself? BTW - you 1st claimed Fox is the 'most trusted news source.'
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#17 Sep 2, 2012
Jake Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>I don't drink and i cleaned my guns yesterday.Now run along and slobber on your Oslama poster.Im Jake Anderson and I approve this message.
I support the democratically elected President of the United States of America (in wartime too I might add).
Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#18 Sep 2, 2012
guest wrote:
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Hey Stalin's Nephew - is that all you got? He's still up in the average of polls. He's way ahead in the electoral college. Oh yeah - the DNC is this week! Wait until you see President Obama's bounce! And then the debates! Willard can you tell us about those tax evading offshore accounts?
LOL - Don't roof rack me bro!
I look forward to watching Obama being bounced right out of office. Now back to the Cloward Piven strategy to fundamentally transform the United States to a socialist country.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#19 Sep 2, 2012
Southern Patriot wrote:
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I look forward to watching Obama being bounced right out of office. Now back to the Cloward Piven strategy to fundamentally transform the United States to a socialist country.
Sure - what about it? Piven herself says your interpretation is nonsense. That's in your reference. Read your own reference. The theory of the strategy is to force a capitalist system to address poverty. Poverty in a capitalist system. It says nothing about changing from a capitalist system.

Piven vigorously continues to defend the original idea, calling its conservative interpretation "lunatic"
Southern Patriot

Jonesboro, AR

#20 Sep 3, 2012
The Cloward Piven Strategy is socailism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93...

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