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#35 Oct 12, 2012
In accusing the vice president of wasting stimulus money on “green pork,” Ryan asked “was it a good idea to spend taxpayer dollars on electric cars in Finland, or on windmills in China?”

Sounds like an awful idea. Luckily it didn’t happen, according to Politifact. The government did loan money to an American carmaker to build green cars in Finland, but it wasn’t stimulus money and it predated Obama. As for those windmills, less than $3 million might have gone to China, but the vast majority of wind energy investment was spent here.
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#36 Oct 12, 2012
Fact-checkers say no to Romney ‘apology’ claims

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemp...

The fact-checkers seemed a bit fatigued by Mitt Romney’s latest round of allegations that the Obama administration goes around apologizing for America. That’s the line of attack that the Republican presidential candidate unleashed in a Wednesday morning news conference following the deadly attacks against U.S. personnel in Egypt and Libya. Several times Romney claimed that the Obama administration’s statements in anticipation of and in response to unrest in that region amounted to “apologizing” for American values or some variation on that sentiment.

This is a theme for Romney: He has long accused Obama of apologizing for America, starting in 2010, when Romney published No Apology: The Case for American Greatness. Since then, he has repeatedly criticized what he has called an “apology tour” by Obama shortly after he took office. PolitiFact has examined those speeches, consulted experts on speechmaking and apologies, and rated Romney’s claim Pants on Fire.
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Jonesboro, AR

#37 Oct 12, 2012
During the vice presidential debate, Republican nominee Paul Ryan claimed that six studies confirm that the math for the Romney/Ryan tax plan adds up. That’s not exactly true; some studies claimed that you could make their tax plan work, but only by monkeying with the definition of middle class or subjecting some investment income to taxes, according to the Washington Post.
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Jonesboro, AR

#38 Oct 12, 2012
The claim:

"Look at all the string of broken promises:' If you like your health care plan, you can keep it,' " Ryan said, repeating President Barack Obama's oft-stated vow. "Try telling that to the 20 million people who are projected to lose their health insurance if Obamacare goes through or the 7.4 million seniors who are going to lose it."

The Facts:

Ryan's claim that 20 million Americans will lose their health care under the Affordable Care Act refers to a government analysis in March. The Congressional Budget Office and the Joint Committee on Taxation analyzed four scenarios and found a range of possibilities -- from Romney's figure of 20 million losing coverage due to Obamacare, to a net increase of 3 million gaining coverage.
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Jonesboro, AR

#39 Oct 12, 2012
Paul Ryan

“We passed a budget which, according to somebody from S&P, would have prevented this downgrade from happening in the first place.”

Ryan has a tendency to sugarcoat history. He has claimed Standard & Poor’s would never have removed the triple AAA rating for U.S. Treasuries if the GOP budget plan was passed, when in fact S&P said it was the failure of Republicans and Democrats to demonstrate they could work together that led directly to the downgrade. Another time, he used a misleading historical analogy an example of bipartisan cooperation.
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Jonesboro, AR

#40 Oct 12, 2012
Paul Ryan

“You have 219 new regulations coming out, costing over $100 million each.”

There are serious problems with this claim, frequently repeated by Republicans. Many of the regulations had no due date for completion; others had already been completed. The rules are listed as being economically significant if they have “economic impact” of $100 million, which could mean costs, benefits or both. It is incorrect to assume all of the potential regulations have only costs.
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Jonesboro, AR

#41 Oct 12, 2012
Paul Ryan

The U.S. military is at risk of losing its "military superiority" because "our Navy is smaller than it's been since 1917. Our Air Force is smaller and older than any time since 1947."

Facts:

This is a great example of a politician using more or less accurate statistics to make a meaningless claim. In recent years, the number of Navy and Air Force assets has sunk to levels not seen in decades, although the number of ships has risen slightly under Obama.

However, a wide range of experts told us it’s wrong to assume that a decline in the number of ships or aircraft automatically means a weaker military. Quite the contrary: The United States is the world’s unquestioned military leader today, not just because of the number of ships and aircraft in its arsenal but also because each is stocked with top-of-the-line technology and highly trained personnel.

Thanks to the development of everything from nuclear weapons to drones, comparing today’s military to that of 60 to 100 years ago presents an egregious comparison of apples and oranges. Today’s military and political leaders face real challenges in determining the right mix of assets to deal with current and future threats, but Romney’s glib suggestion that today’s military posture is in any way similar to that of its predecessors in 1917 or 1947 is preposterous.

In addition, Ryan appears to be using the statistic as a critique of the current administration, while experts tell us that both draw-downs and buildups of military equipment occur over long periods of time and can't be pegged to one president. Put it all together and you have a statement that, despite being close to accurate in its numbers, uses those numbers in service of a ridiculous point.

Pants on Fire!
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Jonesboro, AR

#43 Oct 12, 2012
Vice Presidential Debate: Joe Biden Was Right to Laugh

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/ta...

Joe Biden. Man, did he get it right in last night's debate, and not just because he walloped sniveling little Paul Ryan on the facts. What he got absolutely right, despite what you might read this morning (many outlets are criticizing Biden's dramatic excesses), was his tone. Biden did absolutely roll his eyes, snort, laugh derisively and throw his hands up in the air whenever Ryan trotted out his little beady-eyed

The load of balls that both Romney and Ryan
have been pushing out there for this whole election season is simply not intellectually serious. Most of their platform isn't even a real platform, it's a fourth-rate parlor trick designed to paper over the real agenda – cutting taxes even more for super-rich dickheads like Mitt Romney, and getting everyone else to pay the bill.
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#44 Oct 12, 2012
waltzing matilda wrote:
fact is barack continues to spend more money every day than we have, which even with your pea brain should tell you that spells trouble. he cant fix the economy because he doesnt understand how it works. he doesnt care about middle class america, never has and never will. if you enjoy going broke, vote for his dumbass. otherwise stick your copy and paste fact checks up your piehole now.
So you have no facts to contradict what I have posted. Merely your opinion and the usual insults. Obviously you are a republican.
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Jonesboro, AR

#46 Oct 12, 2012
waltzing matilda wrote:
no, but i can see the deficit growing. thats a fact. sorry you cant count that high.
It grows under Republicans and Democrats. Oh wait. Clinton got it down. Bush blew it sky high again.

Here are the ratios of deficit to GDP for past presidents:

Ronald Reagan
1981-88 4.2 %
1982-89 4.2
Average 4.2

George H. W. Bush
1989-92 4.0
1990-93 4.3
Average 4.2

Bill Clinton
1993-2000 0.8
1994-2001 0.1
Average 0.5

George W. Bush
2001-08 2.0
2002-09 3.4
Average 2.7

Cathouse Mouse

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Cathouse Mouse

#47 Oct 12, 2012
waltzing matilda wrote:
fact is barack continues to spend more money every day than we have, which even with your pea brain should tell you that spells trouble. he cant fix the economy because he doesnt understand how it works. he doesnt care about middle class america, never has and never will. if you enjoy going broke, vote for his dumbass. otherwise stick your copy and paste fact checks up your piehole now.
What does the President spend on (as if it's him that spends it) that you have issues with?
Joe Biden

Jonesboro, AR

#48 Oct 12, 2012
hahahahahahahahahaaaAAAAAAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

My teeth are so white (grins like a possum) THEY are voting for Romney!
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#49 Oct 12, 2012
Joe Biden wrote:
hahahahahahahahahaaaAAAAAAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
My teeth are so white (grins like a possum) THEY are voting for Romney!
The GOP needs desperately to make the narrative about the VP rather than about how they plan to raise taxes on the poor and middle class while giving a tax break to the rich. It will be Romney's job to not worry about the lower 47%- most of the people in Jonesboro. His own words on tape.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#51 Oct 12, 2012
First time voter wrote:
Obama has the better plan for the future!
Only if destruction is your plan of choice.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#57 Oct 13, 2012
The 47% Romney referred to was not the average, hard working middle class people who still care about America and take care of their own families.

He was referring to the lazy, scum bag, crack head population who feel totally entitled to sit on their butt and drink beer all day while they wait for their welfare check that we work hard to provide. Those people would never consider voting for anyone who doesn't believe that wealth should be distributed equally between those who work and those who don't, so why should he worry about them?
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#59 Oct 13, 2012
The real fact checkers found less to slam Ryan over than they did Biden. Unless you listen to only liberal fact checkers who have an agenda of their own. The independent fact checkers do a much better job, and there are multiple sources out there if you do an Internet search for them.
Biden's biggest lies came during the healthcare question, and his claim that the administration wasn't aware of the potential threat in Libya. Even the White House is denying that what Biden said that night was true, and are distancing themselves from his claims. During the healthcare segment, he claimed Obamacare had full support of 2 specific insurance companies that cater to seniors. One of them had issued a statement days earlier that they did NOT support Obamacare and wanted Obama to stop using them as an example of support. Yet Biden threw their name out there anyway.
I could provide links to all of thIs, but I'm not going to. The information is available on the Internet to anyone smart enough to search for it. And the education you might get from doing so can't be anything but beneficial for you.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#61 Oct 13, 2012
Guest wrote:
The 47% Romney referred to was not the average, hard working middle class people who still care about America and take care of their own families.
He was referring to the lazy, scum bag, crack head population who feel totally entitled to sit on their butt and drink beer all day while they wait for their welfare check that we work hard to provide. Those people would never consider voting for anyone who doesn't believe that wealth should be distributed equally between those who work and those who don't, so why should he worry about them?
So that is 47% of America? I don't think so. Actually he clearly said something other than what you are claiming.
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#62 Oct 13, 2012
Not logged in wrote:
I'm sorry but I tried to find links to support what I said and I found just the opposite. But...
Ryan told only one lie , but it lasted 1 1/2 hours.
Obama/Biden 2012
Obama is short for lier. The two words can both mean the exact same thing.

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