Jail time for nonpayment of fines

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guest

United States

#1 May 23, 2010
I have been reading in the Jboro sun that Judge Blackman has been giving 3 to 5 days in jail for this. As a taxpayer aren't we just spending more money housing them in jail paying for it? Would it not be more profitable having them so community service? At least it wouldn't be costing the county money and the city if Jonesboro would benefit from free labor.
whiteboysrage

Blytheville, AR

#2 May 23, 2010
guest wrote:
I have been reading in the Jboro sun that Judge Blackman has been giving 3 to 5 days in jail for this. As a taxpayer aren't we just spending more money housing them in jail paying for it? Would it not be more profitable having them so community service? At least it wouldn't be costing the county money and the city if Jonesboro would benefit from free labor.
Yep and considering that the city and the county split those costs perhaps if blackman wasn't so eager to put people in jail the city of jonesboro wouldn't have to be having special elections for new taxes.

here's one example

when i was younger i got caught with a quarter ounce of marijuana which is a low class misdemeanor i got a ticket and a fine. no jail time but this was several years ago and blackman wasn't the judge. if you get caught with small amounts of marijuana you have to pay the fine and spend ten days in jail under blackman.

instead of the money from that fine going to things like paying police salaries it's going to pay for the person to spend 10 days in jail.

a fine and community service would be economically way more feasible and probably equally as effective as a punishment.

he's jail happy and loves putting people in there for minor offences.

i thought i heard on the scanner not too long ago that the jail was running at capacity and was turning people away with a court citation and yet blackman is putting people in there like it's going out of style

jonesboro is going to have to fire police officers and firemen or institute a new tax while officials like blackman throw money away with wreckless disregard.

do you have any idea how much it costs to keep a person in jail?
it's not cheap
something like 30 thousand dollars a year.
that's 800 dollars for ten days and the fine is only 500 dollars
so everytime blackman imposes his view of punishment not the laws view of punishment we are spending 300 dollars more than what the fine is putting into the system
guest2

United States

#3 May 23, 2010
I totally agree. When is Blackmans term over? Its time for a change. They let dwi go with a slap on the wrist and jail someone on nonpayment of fines. That is screwed up!
me sayz

Osceola, AR

#4 May 23, 2010
so you are saying you should not be punished if you get caught breaking the law. More judges should be like blackman. If they were maybe so many cells would not be needed.
whiteboysrage

Blytheville, AR

#5 May 23, 2010
me sayz wrote:
so you are saying you should not be punished if you get caught breaking the law. More judges should be like blackman. If they were maybe so many cells would not be needed.
then why has our crime rate not dropped since he's been judge?

i never said someone shouldn't be punished for their crimes in fact i believe everyone should be punished for their crimes but jail doesn't stop people or even detour them and that is easily proven by the return rate to jails. it's economically simply not feasible either and that is evident by the situation jonesboro is in now with either having to fire cops or institute a new tax.

community service is equally as effective as jail (actually statistics show it's more effective) and it has a positive economic impact on the city.

however

in direct responce to the original poster i must say

non payment of fines means you didn't submit to the punishment handed down by the court so if you won't submit to the punishment on your own accord what is there to make the judge believe you will submit to community service on your own accord?
i believe if you have non payment of fines you should be given two options

pay the fine in full
or sit it out in jail at 40 dollars a day (the amount they currently give ya to sit out your fines)

but if a person is willing to submit to the punishment then jail shouldn't be part of that punishment on minor misdemeanors.

guest

United States

#6 May 23, 2010
yes they should be punished but jail for nonpayment of fine. Make the punishment fit the crime.
whiteboy

United States

#7 May 23, 2010
guest wrote:
yes they should be punished but jail for nonpayment of fine. Make the punishment fit the crime.
i agree but non payment of fines mean they didn't comply to the earlier punishment of their own free will so its hard to believe they'd comply to whatever new punishment is handed down for them not compling to the previous punishment.......make sense? I agree with the point of the post but your example is lacking.
Oh My Goodness

Belfry, KY

#8 May 25, 2010
The cost is $45.00 a day, not $40.00. Your right that it cost the cities that house inmates in Craighead County Jail (Jonesboro just happens to have more people put in jail than some of the smaller towns) It's a hardship for all the towns around but if a person does not go by the Judges' first ruling then they need to be made to serve their time. COC PSW (Public Service Work) there are alot of warrant sent out on that charge also. Where the Judge order PSW and it was never done. What would you suggest he do about that?
law abiding citizen

Alexander, AR

#9 May 25, 2010
guest wrote:
I have been reading in the Jboro sun that Judge Blackman has been giving 3 to 5 days in jail for this. As a taxpayer aren't we just spending more money housing them in jail paying for it? Would it not be more profitable having them so community service? At least it wouldn't be costing the county money and the city if Jonesboro would benefit from free labor.
He should put them out picking up all the dog crap in people's yards from all these damned dogs running loose, then delivering it to the dogs' owners with a nice big fat ticket for them to pay.
whiteboycares

Blytheville, AR

#10 May 25, 2010
Oh My Goodness wrote:
The cost is $45.00 a day, not $40.00. Your right that it cost the cities that house inmates in Craighead County Jail (Jonesboro just happens to have more people put in jail than some of the smaller towns) It's a hardship for all the towns around but if a person does not go by the Judges' first ruling then they need to be made to serve their time. COC PSW (Public Service Work) there are alot of warrant sent out on that charge also. Where the Judge order PSW and it was never done. What would you suggest he do about that?
in regard to the question about what to do with COC PSW cases. if a person is a given a punishment and won't submit to that punishment the court is given no choice but to force them to comply to their punishment by putting them in jail where they have no choice but to sit it out. because as i said if a person won't comply to the judges orders of their own free will the first time what's to make you believe they'll comply to the punishment for not complying to the first punshment.

jail is ineffective and expensive as a punishment or rehabilitation tool but it does serve a purpose.

however there's alot of misdemeanors that he attaches jail time to when community service would be much more economical and appropriate. if they don't comply then throw em in jail but give them a chance to spend the time of their punishment bettering our community instead of forcing them to be a drain to it.......does that make any sense?

with these jail times attached to misdeanors we're not dealing with career criminals. we're dealing with people like me or you. everyone reading this forum has committed a misdeanor most of the time we don't get caught but every so often we do. and when we do it's our responsibility to accept our punishment whatever it may be but i believe it's also the judges responsibility to hand down an APPROPRIATE punishment that will help the person become a better person by learning from their mistake and repay society through money or services for the crime against societies laws.
putting a person in jail for misdemeanor does none of this

and thanks for the correction on the 45 dollars a day thing.
i havent been in jail in almost a decade so i'm not up to date i suppose.

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