SSI/Disability/Child Support

SSI/Disability/Child Support

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Just a Mom

Deridder, LA

#1 Oct 21, 2008
I have a question for anyone who has ever had to deal with SSI and the states Disability. My ex husband hasnt paid child support in almost a year - The Child support office is allowing this because he filed for disability and SSI. He has been waiting and waiting and taking tests at least once a month. Finally today he was approved for SSI - the grand total was 38.50 a month. My question is this - those who have dealt with this - if he was approved for SSI is it likely he will be approved for Disability through the state of Arkansas. I wont be recieving anything from his SSI being as its so low but according to him i will be receiving a check from Disability if hes approved. He also said that he isnt allowed to work while recieving SSI but he must recieve the SSI to stay on the transplant list.

What is the likelihood i will actually get any help out of this situation or am i destined to be a mom without child support. I have remarried and both my husband and i do work and we not only raise our daughter but my husband has supported my two boys from the previous marriage as long as we have been together. Im really just looking for answers here.

He stated that he will not be appealing if hes denied so this really will hurt my children as far as support from him goes if he is denied. That measly amount he will receive from SSI will never even touch 1/2 the weekly payment he is obligated to pay now.

I am sorry this is so long but I'm sure if anyone anywhere has any answers someone here will.
TIA
whatever

Blytheville, AR

#2 Oct 21, 2008
I do know that if he is approved for disability your child will be sent a check also. It will probably only be around $200 but that is more than u get now. You may need to contact the social security office yourself and ask them why your child is not recieving anything instead of taking his word for it... that just really does not make since usually they will take his check and say tuff you owe child support and you have to pay it...
been there

Enterprise, AL

#3 Oct 21, 2008
SSI is usually over 600 a month (if that is all he is getting). For it to be a smaller amount it would have to be offset by some other money. He must be getting some more money from some source. Check it out on the SSA web page it will explain SSI better. I know about SSI because my son draws it.
keeping

United States

#4 Oct 22, 2008
also usually ssi back pays from the time someone first initiates the claim,lets say if his benefit amount is 800 a month they will back pay him in a lump sum for how many ever months or years that he was unable to work,the good news is they will also back pay your child also,we recently had a deadbeat dad get his disability and when he got his money his daughter got a check for almost 12000 dollars and then gets like 240.00 a month,so id definitely check with social security department and check and make sure hes being honest about disability amount,he may be feeding you crap fixing to draw a lump sum payment and dont want you to take him to court to get some of that money in addition to the money that will be paid directly to you on your childs behalf,also in order for your kid to qualify you have to have proof of paternity,hope that helps you
knowing mom

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Oct 22, 2008
Just a Mom wrote:
I have a question for anyone who has ever had to deal with SSI and the states Disability. My ex husband hasnt paid child support in almost a year - The Child support office is allowing this because he filed for disability and SSI. He has been waiting and waiting and taking tests at least once a month. Finally today he was approved for SSI - the grand total was 38.50 a month. My question is this - those who have dealt with this - if he was approved for SSI is it likely he will be approved for Disability through the state of Arkansas. I wont be recieving anything from his SSI being as its so low but according to him i will be receiving a check from Disability if hes approved. He also said that he isnt allowed to work while recieving SSI but he must recieve the SSI to stay on the transplant list.
What is the likelihood i will actually get any help out of this situation or am i destined to be a mom without child support. I have remarried and both my husband and i do work and we not only raise our daughter but my husband has supported my two boys from the previous marriage as long as we have been together. Im really just looking for answers here.
He stated that he will not be appealing if hes denied so this really will hurt my children as far as support from him goes if he is denied. That measly amount he will receive from SSI will never even touch 1/2 the weekly payment he is obligated to pay now.
I am sorry this is so long but I'm sure if anyone anywhere has any answers someone here will.
TIA
current rate for SSI is 623 per month, that will increase in Jan 09, if he is not getting that amount, he is gettin money somewhere. Generally if you get SSI, you can get Disability, but that will be based on what he has worked in the past and if he gets disability, your children will draw a check off of him. Make sure you have it set up though as you being the payee for the children, or there will be no guarantee that you will see the check. My ex-husband was awarded disability and both of my children drew a check. When my son turned 18, my daughter drew both checks until she was 18. If the children are still in high school, they can draw a check until they graduate or age 19 which ever comes first.
Just a Mom

Deridder, LA

#6 Oct 22, 2008
My ex husband is married and his wife works so would they base his SSI on her income? I really have no idea how this works but im tired of killing myself for a measley 7 bucks an hour just bc he decided to not help me out.
knowing mom

Jonesboro, AR

#7 Oct 22, 2008
Just a Mom wrote:
My ex husband is married and his wife works so would they base his SSI on her income? I really have no idea how this works but im tired of killing myself for a measley 7 bucks an hour just bc he decided to not help me out.
if that is what they are basing it on, he probably will not get a disability check, usually they go hand in hand, sorry. I know from experience that if they get disability of any type, SSI or SSD that they do not have child support taken out. I am also a single mom and I have had to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet. The system is not fair, I went several years with no support, due to him filing for disability and waiting for an answer. He was finally awarded a check and he received back pay, but the children did not. I wish the system was not this way, and I hope I have been helpful. The only other thing is that you can check with the Social security office on Fair Park in Jonesboro and ask them if your children are able to draw a check off of their dad. You do have to file for the children also or they don't receive anything.
been there

Enterprise, AL

#8 Oct 22, 2008
Just a Mom wrote:
My ex husband is married and his wife works so would they base his SSI on her income? I really have no idea how this works but im tired of killing myself for a measley 7 bucks an hour just bc he decided to not help me out.
SSA disability is not offset by income in the home but SSI is. Disability payments are based on your exes work record. How long he worked, how long it has been since he worked and his income while he was working. You really need to check into it. When my ex got his lump sum back pay all 3 of his kids got seperate checks.
mom of 3

Paragould, AR

#9 Oct 22, 2008
Just a Mom wrote:
I have a question for anyone who has ever had to deal with SSI and the states Disability. My ex husband hasnt paid child support in almost a year - The Child support office is allowing this because he filed for disability and SSI. He has been waiting and waiting and taking tests at least once a month. Finally today he was approved for SSI - the grand total was 38.50 a month. My question is this - those who have dealt with this - if he was approved for SSI is it likely he will be approved for Disability through the state of Arkansas. I wont be recieving anything from his SSI being as its so low but according to him i will be receiving a check from Disability if hes approved. He also said that he isnt allowed to work while recieving SSI but he must recieve the SSI to stay on the transplant list.
What is the likelihood i will actually get any help out of this situation or am i destined to be a mom without child support. I have remarried and both my husband and i do work and we not only raise our daughter but my husband has supported my two boys from the previous marriage as long as we have been together. Im really just looking for answers here.
He stated that he will not be appealing if hes denied so this really will hurt my children as far as support from him goes if he is denied. That measly amount he will receive from SSI will never even touch 1/2 the weekly payment he is obligated to pay now.
I am sorry this is so long but I'm sure if anyone anywhere has any answers someone here will.
TIA
I currently am in the same predicament. My ex is $32,0000 behind in child support for his 3 kids. He has filed for disability and been denied the first time and has appealed that decision. It is in the "reconsideration" phase. Do you know how long this generally takes? What do I need to do to ensure that my kids do get their fair share. I too am a single mom and work 2 jobs to make ends meet. This would be a blessing in disguise if it actually comes through. He is such a loser!
get them b4 they blow it

United States

#10 Oct 22, 2008
contact a lawyer,let them know the situation,contact ssi and check on his case ,you have to petition the court in order to attach yourself to his lump sum benefit,talk to a lawyer they know how to bleed them turnips
been there

Enterprise, AL

#11 Oct 22, 2008
If your ex supplied SSA with the names and ages of his children they will automatically send the kids and all other dependents their share. This will in no way affect the amount of SS he gets, the money for dependents is a seperate amount. SS allows all dependents to share an amount that is usually 1/2 that of what the claimaint will receive.
just a mom

Keiser, AR

#12 Oct 22, 2008
Thank you all for your help. Im actually contacting a lawyer about this entire deal this week due to the child support offices inability to do their job as well as noone in the lovely government we have willing to help me. I now have some things I can use at least to make me sound like I know what I'm talking about.
mom of 3

Paragould, AR

#13 Oct 27, 2008
Does anybody know how long the entire process takes in the disability determination phase. My ex was denied and has filed an appeal and it is said to be in the "reconsideration phase" and his atty is telling him that he will get it this time.....but when???? My kids can't wait years. Please advise.
meee

Little Elm, TX

#14 Oct 27, 2008
What is SSA??? Thanks for any info. What is it that a child draws that has something wrong with them? Also does anyone know if a single Mom can draw anything because she has to care for that child?????
singlemom

Lake Charles, LA

#15 Oct 27, 2008
I dont think the mom can draw anything.
another mom

United States

#16 Oct 27, 2008
mom of 3 wrote:
Does anybody know how long the entire process takes in the disability determination phase. My ex was denied and has filed an appeal and it is said to be in the "reconsideration phase" and his atty is telling him that he will get it this time.....but when???? My kids can't wait years. Please advise.
I had to finally stop working due to my disabilities and the entire phase (the original claim, the appeal, then the hearing) took about 3 yrs. It is a long time. I thank God every day for my mothers help. I was just approved about 3 1/2 wks ago still haven't seen a dime but the attorney has been payed. lol. I was told that my child could draw a check up to half of what I would be able to draw. The up to is where they get you. I will be drawing 715 then they take out Medicare insurance out of that which is 98. Then I was informed my son will receive a whopping 116 a month. I signed up for both SSD & SSI. They don't know if we will qualify for that yet. But my child will be drawing back pay just like me. So I assume that your child will be drawing back pay just as mine will be. Best of Luck! I know how difficult it can be.
educated in this area

Lake Charles, LA

#17 Oct 27, 2008
I deal with this on a daily basis. SSI is granted to people who are deamed disabled by social security administration and have not worked enough in their lifetime to draw from the payments made themselves. For example, children or adults that have no substantial work history. SSD is granted to people who are deamed disabled by social security and have paid in enough during their work histroy. People who have worked their entire life at meaningful employment can draw unlimited amounts off of what they have paid in. You only draw both if your SSD is not at least 643.00 per month. They will then suppliment the SSD with SSI, but both together will not exceed 643.00. SSI comes with Medicaid and SSD comes with medicare. There is Medicaid assistance for SSD people who draw little. This is called QMB. The average person is denied at least twice and average time period is 2-5 years. If you are ever denied once contact a lawyer that deals in disability. Most will do it for free and then take a percentage of your back pay for payment. When you are first approved you will draw SSI temporarily no matter which of the two you will be getting. Dependents can get checks until the age of 18 off of SSD but I dont think they can draw off of SSI. I'm sure they cant if they are living in same home. You can get some of the back pay though. The money will be given to him so get a lawyer in order to get your hands on some of that. However, if the monthly check is only 35.00 then the backpay may not even be worth dealing with. Mother's do not draw off of a fathers disability. HOwever, if you are married for at least ten years then you may be able to daw something when he dies and your children are still under the age 18. SSA is regular retirement. You know you work your entire life, pay in, and then retire at age 62 or later. I don't think that parents can get paid for caring for a disabled child. You should contact DDS and ask about the waiver program. They would be the ones to know about that. If you have more questions or need clarification feel free to ask.

Here is another tip. If you are receiving benefits from the state such as ARKIDS, TEA, or daycare vouchers then child support enforcement services are offered to you free of charge.
mindy

Little Elm, TX

#18 Oct 27, 2008
If a person is drawing SS disability does it matter how much money they have? They were hurt and had to retire early.
PROUD ARKANSAN

Scott, AR

#19 Oct 27, 2008
mindy wrote:
If a person is drawing SS disability does it matter how much money they have? They were hurt and had to retire early.
You have to report all money you have or have given away. List all property you have or given away. I believe that has something to do with the ssi
educated in this area

Lake Charles, LA

#20 Oct 27, 2008
It depends on what they are drawing. For SSI, yes it will matter. If they are simply retiring early and drawing less SSA than they would if they would have waited then this will not matter. This would require one to be retirement or early retirement age. Shouldn't matter for SSD either. You know the statement you get in the mail each year that says if you were disabled today you would draw this much per month, dependents would daw this much, etc.. That is SSD and it does not matter how much you have because you worked and paid that money in to the governement already.

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