Chumbalone

Downers Grove, IL

#21 Apr 4, 2013
Orland Hills Employee wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, Mike Dum. But we know you're already in bed with Turnder and Van D*ck. You've lost all credibility.
Look...KNUCKLEHEAD...I had no problem with Mr. Streit...he can run for mayor or dog catcher. Fact is that flyer from a so-called citizens group was sent along with HIS flyer in the same mailing lot. If he condones that kind of malarkey and BS...it is HE who lost credibility as well as his christian attitude. Called his number to ask about it....NO REPLY....accessed the "citizens" website....everything is under construction with no ability to contact anyone....NO NAMES NO CONTACTS...just like this stupid forum. If those are the kind of folks who support this man....he needs to publicly dis-associate himself from this group of "concerned citizens". If not...what makes him any different from what he claims to be wrong with his opponent. This citizens group of Hatfields and McCoys and no class individuals...some with money to publish flyers with totally suspect "information"....are the REAL cowards in this election. Makes me wonder who is REALLY behind these lowlife tactics. If Streit is as good as some say he is...now is the time to SPEAK UP about this maligned group and stand for what HE believes in. Let's start with YOU...the one who frequents Orland Park more than Lockport ! Yeah...concerned Lockport citizen alright !!What a joke !
Lockport

Lockport, IL

#22 Apr 4, 2013
I'm still confused why anyone is objecting to the mailer. Everything, yes everything, stated about Kelly Turner is 100% true.

All anyone has to do is compare the information in yesterday's mailer with the last two mailers sent out by Turner. The only thing that was accurate in Turner's mailer was that his group got rid of the red light cameras. Woop de do. What they did was eliminate $45,000 in revenue by getting rid of the cameras. Over 70% of the tickets were written to people who DIDN'T LIVE IN LOCKPORT.

Turner was so proud of the fact that he got rid of the cameras because they were just for revenue. Earth to Turner, maybe you haven't looked around town but that revenue was earmarked for road repair, new police officers, maybe even a new water main or two, it could have been used to pay for a new truck for the public works department.

But you sir are proud of the fact that you have decreased revenue. Yet, you still promise to fix things with less revenue?

Anyone and everyone who votes for Turner or any of his misfits is nothing but a misinformed drone. You will be the first one bitching about your street not being fixed.
Porter Place

Lockport, IL

#23 Apr 4, 2013
The best part of this mailing is that now all of the voters in Lockport really got to see what Mr. Kelly Turner actually looks like! He has never put his own picture on any of his campaign mailings, but then he isn't exactly very photogenic, is he?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#24 Apr 4, 2013
Lockport wrote:
I'm still confused why anyone is objecting to the mailer. Everything, yes everything, stated about Kelly Turner is 100% true.
All anyone has to do is compare the information in yesterday's mailer with the last two mailers sent out by Turner. The only thing that was accurate in Turner's mailer was that his group got rid of the red light cameras. Woop de do. What they did was eliminate $45,000 in revenue by getting rid of the cameras. Over 70% of the tickets were written to people who DIDN'T LIVE IN LOCKPORT.
Turner was so proud of the fact that he got rid of the cameras because they were just for revenue. Earth to Turner, maybe you haven't looked around town but that revenue was earmarked for road repair, new police officers, maybe even a new water main or two, it could have been used to pay for a new truck for the public works department.
But you sir are proud of the fact that you have decreased revenue. Yet, you still promise to fix things with less revenue?
Anyone and everyone who votes for Turner or any of his misfits is nothing but a misinformed drone. You will be the first one bitching about your street not being fixed.
It wasn't 45k, it was 500k, with no replacement for the revenue stream. I by no means am a fan of the cameras, and if you are going to eliminate the cameras and the revenue stream then as an elected official there had better be either cuts to the budget to offset the lost revenue or a replacement stream. Sending mailers out that you brought back leaf pickup cost money so where did the money to bring back the leaf pick up come from?
Lockport

Lockport, IL

#25 Apr 4, 2013
My mistake. I intended to write "$45,000 per month in revenue..."

You are correct, Turner eliminated in excess of $500,000 in revenue from the cameras.

His reasoning? Because they produced revenue.

Van Dyke and Kelly led the idea of eliminating the branch pick up program. Now they want to bring back a program that they took the lead in eliminating.

Leaf pick-up never went away. Therefore, the promise to restore something that didn't go away is pure propaganda.

Here's the sad truth. Turner, Van Dyke, Kelly and Marynowski have been repeating this propaganda for two years. They actually believe what is coming out of their mouths.

The nightmare of the past two years goes away on Tuesday.

Vote Capadona, Smith, Deskin, Vandermeer, Perretta and Streit.
Techster

Roselle, IL

#26 Apr 4, 2013
My friend works for the Oak Brook Post Office. She looked at the mail I got yesterday and pointed out that the number above my family name on the left side is not a postal number. It is a number put on by the vendor who processed it. I live in Kelvin Grove and both letters have the same number. The same vendor processed both. She also said that the permits can be used by the same vendor.

The same company did both of these. Streit looks pretty bad.

I was going to vote for him, but not now. This makes him look like a coward hiding behind a false name. I also went to his Town Hall and I'm very disappointed with him.
Lockport

Lockport, IL

#27 Apr 4, 2013
Techster wrote:
My friend works for the Oak Brook Post Office. She looked at the mail I got yesterday and pointed out that the number above my family name on the left side is not a postal number. It is a number put on by the vendor who processed it. I live in Kelvin Grove and both letters have the same number. The same vendor processed both. She also said that the permits can be used by the same vendor.
The same company did both of these. Streit looks pretty bad.
I was going to vote for him, but not now. This makes him look like a coward hiding behind a false name. I also went to his Town Hall and I'm very disappointed with him.
Once again I'm asking a simple question. What on the mailer wasn't true about Turner?

As for the town hall meeting, I don't believe you attended. But just in case you want to learn about our next mayor follow these links.


http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I'm just wondering, how impressed were you with Turner at his town hall meeting? Oh, that's right. He didn't have one. He hasn't appeared in front of an audience and answered one question.
Lockport Local

Lockport, IL

#28 Apr 4, 2013
Techster wrote:
My friend works for the Oak Brook Post Office. She looked at the mail I got yesterday and pointed out that the number above my family name on the left side is not a postal number. It is a number put on by the vendor who processed it. I live in Kelvin Grove and both letters have the same number. The same vendor processed both. She also said that the permits can be used by the same vendor.
The same company did both of these. Streit looks pretty bad.
I was going to vote for him, but not now. This makes him look like a coward hiding behind a false name. I also went to his Town Hall and I'm very disappointed with him.
Under-informed voters who will not vote for the "truth"? This sounds ludicrous! That is like I was going to vote for Kelly Turner, but now I am not because I found out he is a male. I was going to vote for Tom Kelly because I thought he was out for the women's vote. Now I find him to be a "letch". Some reasons are legitimate and others are absurd.
Mike Dum

Lockport, IL

#29 Apr 4, 2013
Techster wrote:
My friend works for the Oak Brook Post Office. She looked at the mail I got yesterday and pointed out that the number above my family name on the left side is not a postal number. It is a number put on by the vendor who processed it. I live in Kelvin Grove and both letters have the same number. The same vendor processed both. She also said that the permits can be used by the same vendor.
The same company did both of these. Streit looks pretty bad.
I was going to vote for him, but not now. This makes him look like a coward hiding behind a false name. I also went to his Town Hall and I'm very disappointed with him.
Sure you were going to vote for him...sure you were. Such clever psychology. Please vote for Turner, you will add to the 25% he will barely get. We don't want your vote anyways.

Since: Jan 09

Lemont, IL

#30 Apr 4, 2013
EJCDad wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't 45k, it was 500k, with no replacement for the revenue stream. I by no means am a fan of the cameras, and if you are going to eliminate the cameras and the revenue stream then as an elected official there had better be either cuts to the budget to offset the lost revenue or a replacement stream. Sending mailers out that you brought back leaf pickup cost money so where did the money to bring back the leaf pick up come from?
Revenue streams, revenue streams - those are Mr. Collarelli's and Mr. Murphy's favorites. There is nothing like a good revenue stream to go jump into.
Lockport

Lockport, IL

#31 Apr 4, 2013
TiredLockportResident wrote:
<quoted text>
Revenue streams, revenue streams - those are Mr. Collarelli's and Mr. Murphy's favorites. There is nothing like a good revenue stream to go jump into.
Bonds, bonds with interest - those are Turner, Van Dyke, Kelly, and Maryinowski's favorites. Nothing like a good bond with interest to obligated the taxpayers into.
The facts

Lockport, IL

#32 Apr 4, 2013
Kelly Turner who claimed he never opposed Home Depot Target... He wasn't even in office in then he says oh his site... Sorry buddy, you opposed deal, you opposed the structure, the tax sharing incentive...so bottom line that was the deal to get them here and you opposed it. Here you go...I know the truth is a stranger to your world.

LOCKPORT SQUARE

The Herald News - Joliet (IL)
June 15, 2007 | By Tony Graf

Permalink
LOCKPORT - The annexation agreement for the $95 million Lockport Square shopping complex was approved Wednesday by the city council during a three-hour battle that brought some of the city's most vocal critics back into the ring. The issue was the city's $10.5 million sales-tax reimbursement, paid over time with interest, to the developers, led by TCB Development of Tinley Park.

The deal's opponents - Greg Piazza, Lisa Lovelace and Kelly Turner - were familiar faces from the days of spring 2007, which featured a heavily divided council and a punishing election campaign. Current Alderman Tom Kelly joined in their opposition from his council seat.

Mayor Tim Murphy defended the reimbursement, with backing from Aldermen Dev Trivedi and Pete Colarelli.

Murphy argued that a partnership with the developers - including the reimbursement - was necessary because of the size and complexity of the project.

The mayor argued that it was costly and difficult for the developers to put together the package, which includes: assembling 15 different properties near the future tollway extension, attracting national retailers Home Depot and SuperTarget, and widening 159th Street to four lanes in front of the development.

"It's pretty hard to assemble 15 pieces of land," Murphy said. "It took an artful crew with a lot of money to put this together, to make this happen."

Murphy also argued that, even after the sales-tax reimbursement, the city still will net $1.2 million annually in sales taxes from Lockport Square.

That amount will almost double the city's sales-tax revenue. With property taxes added, the net boost will be $1.4 million, Murphy said. The money will support improvements citywide, he said.

"This project is the catalyst," Murphy said. "It's the snowball rolling down the hill."

Piazza, a former alderman who did not seek re-election this spring, addressed the council and harshly criticized the deal.

"There is absolutely no valid or logical argument that the city can use to justify this agreement," he said.

"Half of what we should be getting is not good enough," he said, referring to the 50 percent yearly sales-tax reimbursement that is part of the deal.

"I'm begging the city not to set the city back 30 years with this one-sided agreement," he said.

Piazza said the city is in an enviable position, with the Interstate 355 tollway being extended. The city should take advantage of that position, he said.

"We should make developers do the bidding. Instead, we're the ones doing the bidding," he said.

The council voted 7-1 to approve the annexation agreement. Voting yes were Murphy, Trivedi, Colarelli, Mike Kelley, Bob Morris, Joseph Fracaro and John Collier. Kelly voted no.

In the April election, Lovelace was defeated by Trivedi, and Turner was defeated by Fracaro.
Lockport

Lockport, IL

#33 Apr 4, 2013
The facts wrote:
Kelly Turner who claimed he never opposed Home Depot Target... He wasn't even in office in then he says oh his site... Sorry buddy, you opposed deal, you opposed the structure, the tax sharing incentive...so bottom line that was the deal to get them here and you opposed it. Here you go...I know the truth is a stranger to your world.
LOCKPORT SQUARE
The Herald News - Joliet (IL)
June 15, 2007 | By Tony Graf
Permalink
LOCKPORT - The annexation agreement for the $95 million Lockport Square shopping complex was approved Wednesday by the city council during a three-hour battle that brought some of the city's most vocal critics back into the ring. The issue was the city's $10.5 million sales-tax reimbursement, paid over time with interest, to the developers, led by TCB Development of Tinley Park.
The deal's opponents - Greg Piazza, Lisa Lovelace and Kelly Turner - were familiar faces from the days of spring 2007, which featured a heavily divided council and a punishing election campaign. Current Alderman Tom Kelly joined in their opposition from his council seat.
Mayor Tim Murphy defended the reimbursement, with backing from Aldermen Dev Trivedi and Pete Colarelli.
Murphy argued that a partnership with the developers - including the reimbursement - was necessary because of the size and complexity of the project.
The mayor argued that it was costly and difficult for the developers to put together the package, which includes: assembling 15 different properties near the future tollway extension, attracting national retailers Home Depot and SuperTarget, and widening 159th Street to four lanes in front of the development.
"It's pretty hard to assemble 15 pieces of land," Murphy said. "It took an artful crew with a lot of money to put this together, to make this happen."
Murphy also argued that, even after the sales-tax reimbursement, the city still will net $1.2 million annually in sales taxes from Lockport Square.
That amount will almost double the city's sales-tax revenue. With property taxes added, the net boost will be $1.4 million, Murphy said. The money will support improvements citywide, he said.
"This project is the catalyst," Murphy said. "It's the snowball rolling down the hill."
Piazza, a former alderman who did not seek re-election this spring, addressed the council and harshly criticized the deal.
"There is absolutely no valid or logical argument that the city can use to justify this agreement," he said.
"Half of what we should be getting is not good enough," he said, referring to the 50 percent yearly sales-tax reimbursement that is part of the deal.
"I'm begging the city not to set the city back 30 years with this one-sided agreement," he said.
Piazza said the city is in an enviable position, with the Interstate 355 tollway being extended. The city should take advantage of that position, he said.
"We should make developers do the bidding. Instead, we're the ones doing the bidding," he said.
The council voted 7-1 to approve the annexation agreement. Voting yes were Murphy, Trivedi, Colarelli, Mike Kelley, Bob Morris, Joseph Fracaro and John Collier. Kelly voted no.
In the April election, Lovelace was defeated by Trivedi, and Turner was defeated by Fracaro.
Oops! You mean that what the mailer said about Turner really, really, really was true?
want to know more

United States

#35 Apr 4, 2013
I'm really confused. The D-1 form says this is actually Kelly Turner 's committee -- http://www.elections.il.gov/campaigndisclosur...
Abc

United States

#36 Apr 4, 2013
The facts wrote:
Kelly Turner who claimed he never opposed Home Depot Target... He wasn't even in office in then he says oh his site... Sorry buddy, you opposed deal, you opposed the structure, the tax sharing incentive...so bottom line that was the deal to get them here and you opposed it. Here you go...I know the truth is a stranger to your world.
LOCKPORT SQUARE
The Herald News - Joliet (IL)
June 15, 2007 | By Tony Graf
Permalink
LOCKPORT - The annexation agreement for the $95 million Lockport Square shopping complex was approved Wednesday by the city council during a three-hour battle that brought some of the city's most vocal critics back into the ring. The issue was the city's $10.5 million sales-tax reimbursement, paid over time with interest, to the developers, led by TCB Development of Tinley Park.
The deal's opponents - Greg Piazza, Lisa Lovelace and Kelly Turner - were familiar faces from the days of spring 2007, which featured a heavily divided council and a punishing election campaign. Current Alderman Tom Kelly joined in their opposition from his council seat.
Mayor Tim Murphy defended the reimbursement, with backing from Aldermen Dev Trivedi and Pete Colarelli.
Murphy argued that a partnership with the developers - including the reimbursement - was necessary because of the size and complexity of the project.
The mayor argued that it was costly and difficult for the developers to put together the package, which includes: assembling 15 different properties near the future tollway extension, attracting national retailers Home Depot and SuperTarget, and widening 159th Street to four lanes in front of the development.
"It's pretty hard to assemble 15 pieces of land," Murphy said. "It took an artful crew with a lot of money to put this together, to make this happen."
Murphy also argued that, even after the sales-tax reimbursement, the city still will net $1.2 million annually in sales taxes from Lockport Square.
That amount will almost double the city's sales-tax revenue. With property taxes added, the net boost will be $1.4 million, Murphy said. The money will support improvements citywide, he said.
"This project is the catalyst," Murphy said. "It's the snowball rolling down the hill."
Piazza, a former alderman who did not seek re-election this spring, addressed the council and harshly criticized the deal.
"There is absolutely no valid or logical argument that the city can use to justify this agreement," he said.
"Half of what we should be getting is not good enough," he said, referring to the 50 percent yearly sales-tax reimbursement that is part of the deal.
"I'm begging the city not to set the city back 30 years with this one-sided agreement," he said.
Piazza said the city is in an enviable position, with the Interstate 355 tollway being extended. The city should take advantage of that position, he said.
"We should make developers do the bidding. Instead, we're the ones doing the bidding," he said.
The council voted 7-1 to approve the annexation agreement. Voting yes were Murphy, Trivedi, Colarelli, Mike Kelley, Bob Morris, Joseph Fracaro and John Collier. Kelly voted no.
In the April election, Lovelace was defeated by Trivedi, and Turner was defeated by Fracaro.
Turner has opposed development all along!!! I bet our roads and water would be a lot better if we were getting $1.4M per year (which would have doubled once the incentive expired).

I wish I had it, but one of his previous campaigns called for NO new homes. He essentially wanted Lockport to stop at Farrell. But now he wants to represent those of us east of Farrell.

The guy is a complete joke.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#37 Apr 4, 2013
TiredLockportResident wrote:
<quoted text>
Revenue streams, revenue streams - those are Mr. Collarelli's and Mr. Murphy's favorites. There is nothing like a good revenue stream to go jump into.
So then how do you purpose to pay for the improvements that are needed here, through bonds and other loans? How do purpose to pay for the city services that you enjoy? You need additionally revenue to take the burden off of the tax payer. There are numerous examples of communities that receive rebates on their taxes because of the revenue growth if you are too daft to understand that than maybe you don't need to be in politics.
Lago Vista

Lockport, IL

#38 Apr 4, 2013
Never fear, the great one has promised to save me $50 on my water bill next year. Of course, that takes us right back to the days when we didn't have the revenue to actually fix any of the rotted waterlines in town.

Lockport may never recover from the disaster being cooked up by Turner, Kelly, Van Dyke and Marynowski.

Hey Denise, go ahead and send out another email. I'll post that incoherent crap on here too.

Hey Denise, you have actually resorted to begging for people to vote for your friends? Begging? An elected official begging? It's obvious that you and your knucklehead friends know that they are going to be embarrassed on Tuesday.

We've done a lot of talking at the clubhouse. Not one person is voting for Turner. Not even some of the people who you actually believe are your friends.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#39 Apr 4, 2013
want to know more wrote:
I'm really confused. The D-1 form says this is actually Kelly Turner 's committee -- http://www.elections.il.gov/campaigndisclosur...
Its not, its one that opposes Turner line 7
want to know more

Lockport, IL

#40 Apr 4, 2013
want to know more wrote:
I'm really confused. The D-1 form says this is actually Kelly Turner 's committee -- http://www.elections.il.gov/campaigndisclosur...
OK. I didn't read this closely enough. I didn't see the checkbox at the bottom that this committee OPPOSES these people. Sorry. I'm not confused anymore.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#41 Apr 4, 2013
The facts wrote:
Kelly Turner who claimed he never opposed Home Depot Target... He wasn't even in office in then he says oh his site... Sorry buddy, you opposed deal, you opposed the structure, the tax sharing incentive...so bottom line that was the deal to get them here and you opposed it. Here you go...I know the truth is a stranger to your world.
LOCKPORT SQUARE
The Herald News - Joliet (IL)
June 15, 2007 | By Tony Graf
Permalink
LOCKPORT - The annexation agreement for the $95 million Lockport Square shopping complex was approved Wednesday by the city council during a three-hour battle that brought some of the city's most vocal critics back into the ring. The issue was the city's $10.5 million sales-tax reimbursement, paid over time with interest, to the developers, led by TCB Development of Tinley Park.
The deal's opponents - Greg Piazza, Lisa Lovelace and Kelly Turner - were familiar faces from the days of spring 2007, which featured a heavily divided council and a punishing election campaign. Current Alderman Tom Kelly joined in their opposition from his council seat.
Mayor Tim Murphy defended the reimbursement, with backing from Aldermen Dev Trivedi and Pete Colarelli.
Murphy argued that a partnership with the developers - including the reimbursement - was necessary because of the size and complexity of the project.
The mayor argued that it was costly and difficult for the developers to put together the package, which includes: assembling 15 different properties near the future tollway extension, attracting national retailers Home Depot and SuperTarget, and widening 159th Street to four lanes in front of the development.
"It's pretty hard to assemble 15 pieces of land," Murphy said. "It took an artful crew with a lot of money to put this together, to make this happen."
Murphy also argued that, even after the sales-tax reimbursement, the city still will net $1.2 million annually in sales taxes from Lockport Square.
That amount will almost double the city's sales-tax revenue. With property taxes added, the net boost will be $1.4 million, Murphy said. The money will support improvements citywide, he said.
"This project is the catalyst," Murphy said. "It's the snowball rolling down the hill."
Piazza, a former alderman who did not seek re-election this spring, addressed the council and harshly criticized the deal.
"There is absolutely no valid or logical argument that the city can use to justify this agreement," he said.
"Half of what we should be getting is not good enough," he said, referring to the 50 percent yearly sales-tax reimbursement that is part of the deal.
"I'm begging the city not to set the city back 30 years with this one-sided agreement," he said.
Piazza said the city is in an enviable position, with the Interstate 355 tollway being extended. The city should take advantage of that position, he said.
"We should make developers do the bidding. Instead, we're the ones doing the bidding," he said.
The council voted 7-1 to approve the annexation agreement. Voting yes were Murphy, Trivedi, Colarelli, Mike Kelley, Bob Morris, Joseph Fracaro and John Collier. Kelly voted no.
In the April election, Lovelace was defeated by Trivedi, and Turner was defeated by Fracaro.
Thanks thats the article I was looking for, that and the one in which Turner says the Wal-Mart deal was bad as well.

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