Fast food chains stealing from low-wa...

Fast food chains stealing from low-wage workers

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Factual FACTS

Lockport, IL

#1 Jun 6, 2014
No matter how small the haul is, a thief is a thief, right? If a poverty-wage fast-food worker sneaks out a couple of burgers to take home to the kids, the bosses yell: "Thief!"

But what do you call it when the bosses steal from those same workers? How about outrageous, disgusting – or simply unbelievable? Well, believe it or not, it's happening every day in multiple ways, and not by a few bad apples, but in what has become routine corporate practice by McDonald's, Burger King, Domino's, and other hugely-profitable giants.

Technically it's called "wage theft," and it involves such slick-fingered moves as erasing hours from employee time cards, requiring off-the-clock work, not paying for overtime hours, refusing to reimburse workers for gas they bought while making deliveries, or inventing uniform fees and other deductions that illegally drop pay below the minimum wage. Come on – isn't it shameful enough that these global behemoths pay rock-bottom wages, without them circling back like low-life pickpockets to steal from their own employees? This is not just corporate thievery, it's thuggery.

How low can fast-food greed go? So low that the top bosses at headquarters play a sleazy game of Hide & Seek, pretending that they have nothing to do with this rip off. Personnel practices, they airily claim, are left to local franchisees, who are "independent business owners." Bovine excrement! Corporate central dictates how much mustard each franchise can put on a bun, so to think that it doesn't monitor every dime in payroll is a ludicrous lie.

In a recent survey of fast-food workers, nine out of ten said they have had wages stolen by their bosses. This thievery has become business as usual, and it's worse than shameful – it's slimy. For more information, go to the National Employment Law Project: www.nelp.org .

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#2 Jun 6, 2014
Factual FACTS wrote:
No matter how small the haul is, a thief is a thief, right? If a poverty-wage fast-food worker sneaks out a couple of burgers to take home to the kids, the bosses yell: "Thief!"
But what do you call it when the bosses steal from those same workers? How about outrageous, disgusting – or simply unbelievable? Well, believe it or not, it's happening every day in multiple ways, and not by a few bad apples, but in what has become routine corporate practice by McDonald's, Burger King, Domino's, and other hugely-profitable giants.
Technically it's called "wage theft," and it involves such slick-fingered moves as erasing hours from employee time cards, requiring off-the-clock work, not paying for overtime hours, refusing to reimburse workers for gas they bought while making deliveries, or inventing uniform fees and other deductions that illegally drop pay below the minimum wage. Come on – isn't it shameful enough that these global behemoths pay rock-bottom wages, without them circling back like low-life pickpockets to steal from their own employees? This is not just corporate thievery, it's thuggery.
How low can fast-food greed go? So low that the top bosses at headquarters play a sleazy game of Hide & Seek, pretending that they have nothing to do with this rip off. Personnel practices, they airily claim, are left to local franchisees, who are "independent business owners." Bovine excrement! Corporate central dictates how much mustard each franchise can put on a bun, so to think that it doesn't monitor every dime in payroll is a ludicrous lie.
In a recent survey of fast-food workers, nine out of ten said they have had wages stolen by their bosses. This thievery has become business as usual, and it's worse than shameful – it's slimy. For more information, go to the National Employment Law Project: www.nelp.org .
Sigh its not wage theft, these are low paying jobs for a reason. They are low skilled entry level positions. It doesn't take a graduate degree to push a button and say "Welcome to McDonald's, would you like to try are new clubhouse burger today". Enjoy what you sow http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/144019-result...

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Liberty

Lockport, IL

#3 Jun 6, 2014
pay no attention to the copy and paste paid troll posting the latest talking points straight from ACORN and the SEIU

it's all from the communist manifesto....

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#5 Jun 7, 2014
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<quoted text>. Pay no attention to the redneck teabagging teabagger "Liberty" these hillbilly idiots couldn't come up with an original thought or belief if you paid them. The only thing they know is racism, sexism, guns and blindly following/believing whatever their teabagging masters have brainwashed them with.
Can you say irony?

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#7 Jun 7, 2014
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<quoted text> sigh maybe it was ok back when these jobs were solely for teenagers, but nowadays there's tons of people WITH an education forced to work those jobs in an attempt to support a family. All because those corporate gods that you apparently worship are hoarding jobs just so they can blame it on Obama. Take a look at how much CEO/upper management pay have progressively increased throughout the years, yet the pay for thoseso-called "unskilled" jobs has remained stagnant and sub-par for the past 20 years (at least). The cost of EVERYTHING has practically doubled too, yet pay for those jobs has remained the same. It USED TO be that a teenager could work those jobs in order to pay for an education, to better themselves and eventually get one of those "skilled" jobs, notsomuch the case nowadays.
Well yeah when it's a mandate that you have to pay $15.00 an hour business need to make hard choices for those low skilled jobs. There are plenty of good paying jobs out there, just not in the fields people want to work. Like the trades. Mike Rowe wrote a fabulous book on this topic. It's a very easy read since it's only one page. Its called Profoundly Disconnected or just go to www.mikeroweworks.com
Liberty

Lockport, IL

#8 Jun 7, 2014
Notice how desperate the left has become,
can't give an intelligent reply so calling anyone not following the left talking points is racist, bigot, sexist, gun nut, religious nut, it goes on and on with them.

who is really the one without original thoughts?
it's the left posters that get paid to put the leftist propaganda
talking points out there and just follow their marching orders.


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Liberty

Lockport, IL

#9 Jun 7, 2014
BTW,

if you are subject to unfair pay practices file a complaint with the Illinois Department of labor.

https://www.illinois.gov/idol/pages/complaint...

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John Caliendo

Bolingbrook, IL

#10 Jun 7, 2014
Biatch biatch biatch. These jobs are for monkeys. They dont like it dont work their. Low life nahggers want to drive bmws and live in naperville on the job they got.

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cubeshaker

Bolingbrook, IL

#11 Jun 7, 2014
Here is the deal
A) if you do not like how much your job pays... find a new one.. real simple.
no one is forcing you to stay there, you do not have a contract making you be there so many years... so dont like it , dont b itch... move on....
B ) think about what would happen if the min wage was 15 per hour... do youREALLY think that would solve things?... no..
You see IF you raise the minimum stores will not take the loss, all stores from grocery to fast food will be forced to raise their prices to pay the new min wage... there goes your raise.....

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working man

Lockport, IL

#12 Jun 8, 2014
Liberty wrote:
BTW,
if you are subject to unfair pay practices file a complaint with the Illinois Department of labor.
https://www.illinois.gov/idol/pages/complaint...
seeing the link to the IDOL voted down,
the original poster has motives other than wages being paid for hours work

must be getting paid by the SEIU.

the SEIU wants all it can get for it's political agenda and use the working poor as it's pawns.
lockporter

Chicago, IL

#13 Jun 13, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
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Sigh its not wage theft, these are low paying jobs for a reason. They are low skilled entry level positions. It doesn't take a graduate degree to push a button and say "Welcome to McDonald's, would you like to try are new clubhouse burger today". Enjoy what you sow http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/144019-result...
If the customer care skills required for these jobs were valued, their wages would be higher. would you return to a place where they are not friendly or the premises are not clean? How do you motivate and support those folks with the jobs of saying hello and cleaning the bathrooms? Salary....
lockporter

Chicago, IL

#14 Jun 13, 2014
cubeshaker wrote:
Here is the deal
A) if you do not like how much your job pays... find a new one.. real simple.
no one is forcing you to stay there, you do not have a contract making you be there so many years... so dont like it , dont b itch... move on....
B ) think about what would happen if the min wage was 15 per hour... do youREALLY think that would solve things?... no..
You see IF you raise the minimum stores will not take the loss, all stores from grocery to fast food will be forced to raise their prices to pay the new min wage... there goes your raise.....
You're a bit out of touch if you think there are more jobs, better jobs, than the one anyone has now. Maybe they are working that job UNTIL they can move on or move up. I'm sure you didn't think of that as you were sitting there and judging

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#15 Jun 13, 2014
lockporter wrote:
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If the customer care skills required for these jobs were valued, their wages would be higher. would you return to a place where they are not friendly or the premises are not clean? How do you motivate and support those folks with the jobs of saying hello and cleaning the bathrooms? Salary....

Frederick Herzberg described two factors that act on a person’s work. Those factors are Motivators and Hygiene. Salary is included in hygiene factors and when hygiene factors are met it prevents dissatisfaction at work only for a short time. People become complacent and will start to let their performance slip. Salary alone is never enough, an employer can pay employees $100 an hour and after while the bathrooms become dirty and the friendliness disappears. Motivators are what really drive people. Motivators include responsibility, job with a purpose, recognition of good work, opportunity for promotion, opportunity for achievement, opportunity for personal growth, and threshold for satisfaction. Consider fast food workers, while it’s a low skilled entry position it can and often does offer all of the motivators especially the opportunity for advancement. I know for a fact McDonalds offers on the job management training and the opportunity to attend training classes at the corporate headquarters.
lockporter

Lockport, IL

#16 Jun 14, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
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Frederick Herzberg described two factors that act on a person’s work. Those factors are Motivators and Hygiene. Salary is included in hygiene factors and when hygiene factors are met it prevents dissatisfaction at work only for a short time. People become complacent and will start to let their performance slip. Salary alone is never enough, an employer can pay employees $100 an hour and after while the bathrooms become dirty and the friendliness disappears. Motivators are what really drive people. Motivators include responsibility, job with a purpose, recognition of good work, opportunity for promotion, opportunity for achievement, opportunity for personal growth, and threshold for satisfaction. Consider fast food workers, while it’s a low skilled entry position it can and often does offer all of the motivators especially the opportunity for advancement. I know for a fact McDonalds offers on the job management training and the opportunity to attend training classes at the corporate headquarters.
I won't dispute what you say, but when your brand, your reputation is based on friendliness, speed and cleanliness, what is it worth to you to keep that brand? Value the worker, and salary is part of that value.

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#18 Jun 14, 2014
lockporter wrote:
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I won't dispute what you say, but when your brand, your reputation is based on friendliness, speed and cleanliness, what is it worth to you to keep that brand? Value the worker, and salary is part of that value.
You missed the point, you could some one $100 an hour if the person is not given the opportunity to advance or if the work is not challenging their work will begin to slack and all of the things you listed are going to slack as well. It is human nature and there are plenty of studies to show the relationship between work and salary and job happiness.

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#19 Jun 14, 2014
lockporter wrote:
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I won't dispute what you say, but when your brand, your reputation is based on friendliness, speed and cleanliness, what is it worth to you to keep that brand? Value the worker, and salary is part of that value.
Perhaps I didn't explain it properly. If I offered you a job that paid $100 an hour with insurance, but that job offered no chance of advancement, it was a one person job only, had no supervisor and it was your job for as long as you wanted it. The job though was working in a cesspool for 8 hours a day five days a week how long do you think you would keep that job? If you kept that job for more than a year I would be very surprised. Salary isn't everything when it comes to a job.
cubeshaker

Bolingbrook, IL

#20 Jun 14, 2014
lockporter wrote:
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You're a bit out of touch if you think there are more jobs, better jobs, than the one anyone has now. Maybe they are working that job UNTIL they can move on or move up. I'm sure you didn't think of that as you were sitting there and judging
So if they are working till they "move up or on".. then it is thier choice to work for the wages they are offered right.... So my statement stands... If you do not like your pay get a new job... Seems you are the one out of touch

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