Gun Makers that Wont Sell to the Gove...

Gun Makers that Wont Sell to the Government

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Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#1 Feb 22, 2013
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams...

Firearms Companies Restricting Sales To GOVERNMENT Agencies In Areas That Restrict Gun Rights.

A growing number of firearm and firearm-related companies have stated they will no longer sell items to states, counties, cities and municipalities that restrict their citizens' rights to own them.

Got to love this. What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.
Professor

United States

#2 Feb 23, 2013
I heard that last night on the radio. Its great! They stated they will not sell to anyone who infringes on the rights of their citizens to own.

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed Upon" don't the liberals understand?
Four More Years

New Lenox, IL

#3 Feb 23, 2013
Professor wrote:
I heard that last night on the radio. Its great! They stated they will not sell to anyone who infringes on the rights of their citizens to own.

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed Upon" don't the liberals understand?
The part about no checks at gun shows and ridiculous sized magazines.
Professor

United States

#5 Feb 23, 2013
Four More Years wrote:
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The part about no checks at gun shows and ridiculous sized magazines.
I have been to many gun shows. I have made many purchases. All purchases were processed legally. They are also patrolled by the State Police. Where did you get that information from? Any avid gun owner will tell you that those aftermarket gimmick magazines don't work and are not reliable. They have never been a factor to even worry about. Your just repeating the communist movements propaganda to gain support to disarm America. Your smarter than that four more.
Four More Years

New Lenox, IL

#6 Feb 23, 2013
Professor wrote:
<quoted text>I have been to many gun shows. I have made many purchases. All purchases were processed legally. They are also patrolled by the State Police. Where did you get that information from? Any avid gun owner will tell you that those aftermarket gimmick magazines don't work and are not reliable. They have never been a factor to even worry about. Your just repeating the communist movements propaganda to gain support to disarm America. Your smarter than that four more.
Gun shows I attended in Indiana.
Professor

United States

#7 Feb 23, 2013
Four More Years wrote:
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Gun shows I attended in Indiana.
Was it a dealer purchase or private citizens?
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#8 Feb 23, 2013
Any firearm purchased that is sold by a dealer goes through a background check. Any firearm that is sold from one private party to another does not get background checked. No matter where you are. As stated above by the beloved Professor, everything I have bought in Ill Noise has been background checked. However, in Indiana it was cash and carry for long guns only. They will NOT sell you a handgun under any circumstance as you must have a valid Indiana Id and a carry permit as well. Trust me on this, I tried to buy a 686 and was told, "No handguns can be purchased by Ill Noise residents in the state of Indiana."
Large capacity ammunition magazines are sometimes needed in the case of more than one assailant. I would rather not be outgunned by a group of thugs. Besides, how long does it take to switch a mag in a tight spot? Too long if you are in real danger, which you would be in a firefight.

Here is a good argument for the use of large capacity magazines. A little long but it gets moving in the middle with some excellent security footage from varios shootings by CCW holders.
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Four More Years

United States

#9 Feb 24, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
Any firearm purchased that is sold by a dealer goes through a background check. Any firearm that is sold from one private party to another does not get background checked. No matter where you are. As stated above by the beloved Professor, everything I have bought in Ill Noise has been background checked. However, in Indiana it was cash and carry for long guns only. They will NOT sell you a handgun under any circumstance as you must have a valid Indiana Id and a carry permit as well. Trust me on this, I tried to buy a 686 and was told, "No handguns can be purchased by Ill Noise residents in the state of Indiana."
Large capacity ammunition magazines are sometimes needed in the case of more than one assailant. I would rather not be outgunned by a group of thugs. Besides, how long does it take to switch a mag in a tight spot? Too long if you are in real danger, which you would be in a firefight.

Here is a good argument for the use of large capacity magazines. A little long but it gets moving in the middle with some excellent security footage from varios shootings by CCW holders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3cJAV8ce-j0XX&feature=you tu.be
Don't forget those magazines are handy in movie theaters and schools or Safeway grocery stores.
Neighbor

Bolingbrook, IL

#10 Feb 24, 2013
Very true Four More...but you can't stop insanity. In each of those examples you cite, an insain person acted insainly. They could have killled people other ways just as easily.

Good news/bad news, our constitution protects our right to bare arms, in an uninfringed manner. We will never stop all crime, we will never stop all insain actions. No one wants to allow the examples you cite to happen. Look at all the people Drunk Drivers kill. Should we take cars away from everyone to solve that problem? Makes no sense.
Professor

United States

#11 Feb 24, 2013
Four More Years wrote:
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Don't forget those magazines are handy in movie theaters and schools or Safeway grocery stores.
Gun control is about disarming the citizenry to gain control over the people. That is a fact throughout history. Obama never mentioned protecting the children ONE time in his state of the union speech. Its not about the children. When police officers go nuts and use their issued weapons to murder, do we take the guns away from all cops or limit their access to protection or fire power? No. Why ? Because we understand its not the GOOD law abiding cops fault. Its the mentally ill cops fault! GET IT? THE SAME LOGIC APPLIES TO LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. I don't want to be prosecuted for someone elses crime!
Second Amendment

Frankfort, IL

#12 Feb 24, 2013
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

What well regulated militia do any of you belong to?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Let's be honest. Nobody here is really believes they can stand up to the government just because they own a couple of guns. Many of my fellow Americans live in terror of being attacked by another human being or group of human beings who are bigger, tougher, stronger, etc. than they are. The gun is a potential equalizer.
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#13 Feb 24, 2013
It isn't a potential equalizer, it IS an equalizer. Makes a 5'2" woman as tough as any man.
Second Amendment

Frankfort, IL

#14 Feb 24, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
It isn't a potential equalizer, it IS an equalizer. Makes a 5'2" woman as tough as any man.
No, it's a potential equalizer. Every situation is different. The tragic shooting death of Chris Kyle shows that even an expert with firearms can be on the wrong end of a gun in the wrong circumstance; even if they are armed themselves. To your point the gun does give the 5'2 woman a better chance to defend herself against a larger attacker. The gun also allows the 5'2 teenage girl rob or kill a much larger individual if she can get the drop on them.
Professor

United States

#15 Feb 24, 2013
Second Amendment wrote:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
What well regulated militia do any of you belong to?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Let's be honest. Nobody here is really believes they can stand up to the government just because they own a couple of guns. Many of my fellow Americans live in terror of being attacked by another human being or group of human beings who are bigger, tougher, stronger, etc. than they are. The gun is a potential equalizer.
Did you just ignore the language pertaining to the people? You commies are bold bastards!

By the way the "people" were the militia that defeated England in the war of 1812. Let me guess...... you hate hearing about American History?
Second Amendment

Frankfort, IL

#16 Feb 24, 2013
Professor wrote:
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Did you just ignore the language pertaining to the people? You commies are bold bastards!
By the way the "people" were the militia that defeated England in the war of 1812. Let me guess...... you hate hearing about American History?
Guessing is about all you can do. Comprehension is not a strength of yours. Keep up the brave name calling on internet forums where you can get away with it. Outside your basement you can get the piss slapped out of you for calling somebody a commie. You aren't bold enough to call anybody anything to their face. What militia are YOU in?
jeepjockey

Greenville, SC

#17 Mar 10, 2013
Now if the ammo companies would do the same thing maybe I could buy a box of 22s.When a person who don't believe in guns for personal protection has someone point a gun in their face and hear the click of the trigger as the last sound they hear and they still live, they may. think differently
Professor

Mokena, IL

#18 Mar 10, 2013
Second Amendment wrote:
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Guessing is about all you can do. Comprehension is not a strength of yours. Keep up the brave name calling on internet forums where you can get away with it. Outside your basement you can get the piss slapped out of you for calling somebody a commie. You aren't bold enough to call anybody anything to their face. What militia are YOU in?
Im not violent like you liberals. Did you know the last 4 mass killings were committed by liberals with guns?

I enjoy beating up "LOW INFORMATIONS CITIZENS" with facts!
Four More Years

New Lenox, IL

#19 Mar 10, 2013
Professor wrote:
<quoted text>Im not violent like you liberals. Did you know the last 4 mass killings were committed by liberals with guns?

I enjoy beating up "LOW INFORMATIONS CITIZENS" with facts!
Where did you get your information?All I know is almost every mass murderer and almost all serial killers are white and many young.
Professor

Mokena, IL

#20 Mar 11, 2013
Four More Years wrote:
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Where did you get your information?All I know is almost every mass murderer and almost all serial killers are white and many young.
They were white and young. I never disputed that. I stated they were liberals with guns. The media suppresses information like that. It wouldn't look too good for the liberal agenda!
Four More Years

Gurnee, IL

#21 Mar 11, 2013
Professor wrote:
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They were white and young. I never disputed that. I stated they were liberals with guns. The media suppresses information like that. It wouldn't look too good for the liberal agenda!
Do you have documented proof as 2 of the killers were of high school age and had never voted or worked for a candidate.You can't throw things out there without a creditable source.Even Neighbor would tell you that.

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